^%u- t*¥'4' 0^: m. Mm^. ioo3 Cornell University Library LC1003 .A87 Classical and scientific sju^^^^^^^ olin 3 1924 030 613 008 DATE DUE yftO— hi*"""2uulj GAYLORD PRINTED IN U.S.A. CLASSICAL AND SCIENTIFIC STUDIES. The original of tliis book is in tlie Cornell University Library. There are no known copyright restrictions in the United States on the use of the text. http://www.archive.org/details/cu31924030613008 Classical and Scientific Studies, and the Great Schools of England : LECTURE READ BEFORE THE SOCIETY OF ARTS OP THE April 6, 1865. By W^-'Pf 'ATKINSON. WITH ADDITIONS AND AN APPENDIX. " Mutato nomine de te fabula narratur." Camfaritrge : SEVER AND FRANCIS. 1865. (y» ^"l tl^ Entered, according to Act of Congress, in tlie year 1865, by W. P. Atkikson, In the Clerk's Office of the District Court of the District of Massachusetts. BOSTON: PBESS OF JOHN WILSON AND SON, Ifi, WAI£B STBBET. r-vl 7->- PREFACE. It will be obvious at a glance that I have extended this paper quite beyond the limits of a lefture ; and I ought to state, that for the sentiments, both of the part which was read, and of that since added, so far as they are not quoted from others, I am alone responsible. For these sentiments, however, I can lay no claim to origi- nality. The ground has been often traversed before ; though, so far as I have dealt in controversy, I have endeavored to place the merits of both sides of the question in dispute in a juster light than is done by the extreme partisans of either. I have made copious references to my authorities, in the hope that those interested in the subjedl will follow up the reading of much that want of space compelled me to omit. In making up my account of the English schools, I have been able to embody in my pamphlet but a tithe of the interesting and valuable material that may be found buried in the folios of the original Report. In taking upon myself the ungracious part of an advocate, I have had to lay grave charges of negledl and imperfedtion ; vi PBEFACE. but I have endeavored, I hope not unsuccessfully, not to appear insensible to merits as well as defedts. That the schools and Universities of England, with all their shortcomings, have yet done a great work in the past, no one can be so blind as to deny ; no one, with any love of good learning, can be insensible to the influence of all the venerable associations that cluster round them. As seats of learning and centres of thought, they possess a power which hardly any amount of abuse or mismanagement can wholly deprive them of. Emollit mores, nee sinit esse foros, may be said of any course of liberal study, however antiquated or perverse. A mere residence at Oxford or Cambridge, one would think, should be a liberal education ; and it may often be worth a young man's while to undergo any amount of useless drudgery, rather than miss the refining influence of the only higher intellectual training within his reach. My argument has only been that such a price should not be exafted of him. But neither will it, I hope, be laid to my charge, because I have undertaken here to defend the interests of science, that I am insensible to the glory and beauty of the literatures of Greece and Rome, or to the splendor of their immortal story. That is a cause which will never lack defenders more eloquent than I am : yet, in one sense, I can claim that I too am its defender ; for surely he may be reckoned among a cause's best friends who strives to protedl it from perversion and abuse. It has been my chief objedl to place before readers who will not have access to a document not likely to fall into the hands of many in this country, the very surprising pidlure of the great English schools which it contains, — schools, some PREFACE. vu of which, at least, would seem at the present time to answer hardly any other purpose than that of serving as the demon- stration, by a redudio ad ahsurdum, of the insufficiency of a one-sided and obsolete system of education. If I shall thereby contribute in any degree to the great work of building up a more perfedl and more truly liberal one in this coun- try, where, comparatively untrammelled by old traditions, we have a fairer field for experiment, I shall be abundantly rewarded. Cambridge, Massachusetts, May 21, 1865. CLASSICAL AND SCIENTIFIC STUDIES. I HAVE ventured, gentlemen, to offer, this evening, to draw aw^ay your attention from the special topics which usually occupy you here, to the great general topic, in which, as engaged in a new educational enterprise, we are all interested, — the topic of scientific education. You are about to organize a new institution, differing in many of its features from any other in the community : it seems fit, that, while doing it, you should view it in all its relations to the instrumentalities already exist- ing. Have we a national system of education already com- pletely organized ? If so, in what relation does our enterprise stand to it? if not so, what bearing will it have on the solution of an undetermined problem? We cannot isolate ourselves if we would. Our institution must stand in some relation, true or false, to other agencies at work in different parts of the same great field. It is important that that relation should be a true one, and that the enterprise should be undertaken with wide and just views of the ^yhole problem. Whatever light we can get from other systems and experiments, successful or unsuc- cessful, should be welcome. Our President has recently made a thorough personal exami- nation of those European schools of science which most near- ly resemble, in their purpose and objects, the one you are about to inaugurate ; and the benefits of his well-known skill and ability will soon be apparent in the organization of your school. 10 CLASSICAL AND SCIENTIFIC STUDIES. It has seemed to me, that we might derive some instrudion from the examination, not only of those institutions which resemble, but of those also which differ most widely from, the one you are establishing ; and that I could spend a profitable hour by bringing up the question here, which still plays so important a part in educational discussions, of the relative im- portance and relative position in modern education of the study of Physical Science, and the study of the ancient languages of Greece and Rome, which have so long formed the staple of the only education that has been called " liberal," — a well-worn question, I am aware, but one which from time to time will still present itself, to be passed upon anew in the light of the demands of new circumstances, and of the fresh conquests with which Physical Science, almost from day to day, astonishes the world. In our noble system of elementary public schools, free alike to the children of rich and poor, white and black, foreigner and native, we have laid a foundation for the education of the peo- ple such as never was laid by any nation before ; and though I think that many defedts remain to be corredted, and much is still to be done before that system will develop "all its power, yet, in the light of the great events that have been going on round us, the blindest cannot fail to see how much it has already accomplished to establish firmly the foundations of popular liberty, and to elevate us in the scale of nations. But the same attention does not seem to me yet to have been paid to the problem of adjusting our higher institutions of learn- ing to the wants of a new people, and the circumstances of new times. That such adjustment is needful ; that though learning be one, yet the instrumentalities by which it is promoted must vary with the times, and be adapted to the wants of the nation to be instrudled, — will not, I presume, be questioned. But our higher institutions of learning are not of home-growth, but borrowed from England ; a kindred nation, it is true, but one whose social system differs so widely from ours that few of her institutions can be adopted by us without modification. Yet, CLASSICAL AND SCIENTIFIC STUDIES. 11 while we have laid the broad foundation of a universal educa- tion of the people, such as England has yet hardly begun to dream of, in our higher institutions of learning, we have bor- rowed from her, almost unchanged, that narrovs^ theory of a liberal education which is based exclusively upon the study of the Greek and Roman classics. It is to the question of the relation of this theory to American education that I wish to draw your attention. But I should not, perhaps, have been tempted into so old a controversy, if there had not fallen in my way a document which seems to me to throw a new and most extraordinary light upon the whole subjedt. It may be known to you, that in England, in the year 1861, partly in consequence of severe stridlures on the condition of Eton School, which appeared in the public prints,* a Parliamentary Commission was appointed to investigate the condition, not only of that great classical school, but of eight of the most important of the other so-called Grammar Schools of England ; namely, the three other most aristocratic of these institutions, Harrow, Winchester, and Rugby, together with the old classical foundation of Shrews- bury, in the west of England ; and Westminster, St. Paul's, Charterhouse, and Merchant Taylors', all in the city of London. Why these last were specially seledled from the numerous other foundation-schools of England, does not appear. In 1864 that Commission made a Report, which I have studied with considerable care ; and I propose to read to you an account drawn from it of the present state of public-school education in England, so far as it is exhibited in the condition of the schools examined, with special reference to the question which most nearly concerns us, — as to the place which the teaching * Chiefly, if we may believe the " National Review," in consequence of the controversy which arose from some severe articles which appeared in the early numbers of the " Cornhill Magazine," by the " well-known and energetic reformer," who signs himself " Paterfamilias.'' I do not know who Paterfamilias is. The articles are well worth reading. " Cornhill Magazine," vol. i. p. 608; vol. ii. p. 641 ; and vol. iii. p. 257. 12 CLASSICAL AND SCIENTIFIC STUDIES. of science should hold in an enlarged and liberal scheme of modern education. Now, we are not at present in very good temper with our English brethren, and with ample and just reason ; and there- fore not, perhaps, disposed to do justice to their real merits : but I think we may at any time allow, that Englishmen can chal- lenge the world, not only in the magnitude of the abuses they tolerate, but also in the thoroughness with which they investi- gate these abuses when once they set about it. Whether they are equally thorough in applying the remedy may perhaps admit of question. But the doings of this Commission are no excep- tion to the rule of English thoroughness. The Report and evi- dence I have before me in four folio volumes, containing two thousand pages, in double columns of fine print. The Com- mission, which consisted of the Earl of Clarendon, the Earl of Devon, Lord Lyttleton, the Hon. Edward Twisleton, Professor William H. Thompson, and Henry Halford Vaughan, Esq., held a hundred and twenty-seven meetings, examined at very great length a hundred and thirty witnesses,, and personally visited all the schools ; though an application from them for permission to examine the boys was met by a civil but per- emptory refusal from all but one or two of the head-masters. I think there is hardly any question that can w^ell be con- ceived, from the quality of that roast mutton to which, for centuries, Eton Collegers have been doomed for five days in the weekly seven, and the strength of the beer with which they wash it down, up to every possible inquiry respedling the history, income, revenues, and course of study of each school, that will not here be found answered ; and, in addition, and what is perhaps the most valuable part of the whole, there i§ a great body of evidence from men of the highest eminence, called to testify to the general questions relating to the state of English education. It will readily be believed, that it is a very valuable contribution to the literature of education. My read- ing on the subjedt has been pretty extensive ; but I have rarely seen any thing that goes so diredtly to the heart of all questions CLASSICAL AXL SCIEXTIFIC STUDIES. 13 that should interest a person engaged in such studies at the present day. I shall not detain you with a description of these great schools.* Old charitable foundations, some of them with a somewhat monastic charaiJter, they have been diverted almost entirely from their original purpose, and are now, and notably Eton, Harrovsr, Rugby, and Winchester, — to which four I shall chiefly confine my remarks, — great boarding-schools, where the sons of the English aristocracy and wealthy classes are pre- pared, or supposed to be prepared, for the Universities of Oxford and Cambridge, or dire6tly for the different "spheres of English aristocratic life. The splendid buildings of Eton are well known by description, and have doubtless been visited by many here present. Not to detain you, then, with a description in detail, I pass at once to the question which immediately concerns us ; namely, What is the charadter, and what the quality, of the education given to almost three thousand of the sons of the English higher classes in these great and ancient and richly endowed f institutions ? As they are the most prominent and wealthiest, it is to be presumed that they are, if any thing, above the average of many others of a similar charadter which are scattered over England. Will you permit me to answer it, by first asking, in a few words. What ought to be that educa- tion, and then examining in detail how far the adlual edu- cation answers to the ideal? * For some details, see Appendix I. t Richly endowed, though the dishonest manner in which the in- crease in the revenues of Eton, arising from the rise in value of its enor- mous landed property, has for a long series of years been diverted from its true objeft into the pockets of the Provost and Fellows, would be difficult to believe on any less conclusive evidence. That the first offenders were conscious of wrong-doing seems pretty evident, from the careful manner in which they concealed the statutes. Their successors have pleaded the excuse which in England covers such a multitude of sins, — prescription. One Provost, before his death, returned a large sum to the College. 14 CLA88IGAL AND SCIENTIFIC STUDIES. A pradlical psychology, founded on a true indudtive observa- tion of the phenomena of the human mind, such as should guide us in an a friori investigation of such a question, is yet to seek ; * but I shall assume as axioms one or two propositions which you at least will not be disposed to question. I shall assume, that, in the science and art of education, we must study and follow nature, and that we shall only be successful so far as we do so. I shall assume, that there is a certain natural order in the development of the human faculties ; and that a true system of education will follow, not run counter to, that order. -I shall assume further, that, in the absence of any nicer classification, we may roughly divide the faculties of the mind, for purposes of education, into observing and refledlive ; and that, in the order of development, the observing faculties come first. And again, I shall assume, though the point has been disputed,f that individual minds come into the world ■with individual characteristics ; often, in the case of superior minds, strongly marked, and qualifying them for the more successful pursuit of some one career, than of any other. Finally, I shall assume, without stopping to qualify the statement, that the study of the phenomena of the material world may be said to be the divinely appointed instrument for the cultivation and development of the observing faculties ; while the study of the immaterial mind, with all that belongs to it, including the study of language as the instrument of thought, is the chief agent in the development of the refledlive faculties. This being premised, let us next inquire, from a pradtical rather than a theoretical point of view, what we should natur- * I cannot make an exception in favor of the empirical systeni of Phrenology, though I believe it has served to draw attention to import- ant but neglecfted principles in educational philosophy. The attempts of the German philosophers, Herbart and Beneke, to apply psychology to education can hardly be said to be known outside of their native country. t As, e.g., by Dr. Johnson, who maintains, in his " Life of Cowley," that genius is only great general power, " accidentally determined " in a particular direilion. All experience proves the contrary. CLASSICAL AND SCIENTIFIC STUDIES. 15 ally expedl as some, at least, of the results of the education of a young English gentleman entering one of these magnificently endowed institutions at the age of ten, and leaving at the age of eighteen or twenty for the university* or the world ? He enters it at an age, w^hen, as we have assumed, the observing faculties are most adtive in their efforts to develop themselves. He doubtless finds there, to meet that want, the amplest provi- sion which wealth can furnish for the pradtical study of out- ward nature, and for gaining at least an elementary knowledge of the wonderful laws by which the Creator governs the universe, in the shape of apparatus, laboratories, instruments, libraries, and teachers trained to use them. He is doubtless taught, as a discipline of the mind, to know and classify the living creatures round him, and to understand the physical phe- nomena in the midst of which he lives and has his being. The future citizen of one of the leading industrial nations of the world, himself perhaps heir to some great landed estate of vast natural resources, or to some great manufadturing establishment which has laid the foundation of his family's wealth and con- sequence ; at any rate, the probable future legislator for these, — he will naturally be instrudted in all those departments of science which have any bearing on these, which will help him to govern and guide them successfully, or to legislate for them intelligently. Born within that charmed circle from which the rulers of the people are drawn, he will begin to be instrudted betimes in all that ' relates to the history, government, and politics of his own and other modern nations ; a citizen of a great commercial nation, he will be taught something of the laws which control the distribution of wealth ; the inhabitant of an island whose sails are found on every sea, and whose trade reaches to the ends of the earth, he will be well instrudted, at an age when such instrudtion is "■ In 1861, 558 out of 1,674, or exaftly one-third of the under-gradu- ates of Oxford, and 305 out of 1,483, or nearly one-fifth of those of Cam- bridge, were from public schools. 16 CLASSICAL AND SCIENTIFIC STUDIES. most easily imparted, in the geography, physical and political, of the globe he inhabits. Born heir to the noblest language and the richest literature of modern times, he will of course be carefully taught, from the very outset, to speak and write his mother-tongue with accuracy and ease ; and, at the age of eigh- teen or twenty-one, he will be well acquainted with the great writers, in prose and poetry, who have adorned it. Connedled closely with the nations of the continent, and likely, from his wealth and position, to be a traveller in after-life, he will be well acquainted with one or more of the leading continental languages, so as to read them readily, and perhaps even speak them fluently. Finally, an heir t6 wealth, with perhaps un- limited means at his command of gratifying his tastes, a foun- dation will surely be laid for the study and appreciation of the fine arts, by a careful cultivation of eye and ear, by drawing and music. I will not exhaust the catalogue ; but is not some or all of this, or the beginning at least of all this, what we have a right to expedt from a young man of twenty, educated at these great, wealthy, and time-honored institutions, in order to satisfy that ideal of an education which Milton himself has drawn for them. " I call, therefore, a complete and generous education " — the words have been quoted a thousand times before — "that which fits a man to perform justly, skilfully, and magnani- mously all the offices, both private and public, of peace and war"? And now, gentlemen, though I am sure that the answer I am about to make to the question. How much of this is actually realized by these great schools? will create no little astonish- ment, I shall not give you the opportunity to susped; me of exaggeration ; for I shall make no statement that is not fully supported by the document before me. And as we have assumed it as an axiom in education, that the observing faculties are the first to be developed, and as boys enter these great schools at the very early age of eight or ten, let us first inquire how the case stands in regard to physical science. CLASSICAL AND SCIENTIFIC STUDIES. 17 The account of the study of physical science at Eton is as brief as that famous chapter in Horrebow on the snakes in Ice- land. The Rev. C. O. Goodford, the Provost, testifies in these words : " Physical science is noi taught; " and, a little further on, " There is no apparatus for experiments in natural philoso- phy, &c." We turn to Winchester, and the evidence of the Rev. Dr. Moberly, head-master, is the same ; to Harrow, and read, " Physical science does not form any part of the regu- lar studies of the school ; " to Westminster and Merchant Taylors', with the same result : and it is not till we come to Rugby, where we should expedl more enlightenment, that we find any attention paid to the subjedl, beyond a voluntary attendance on a few ledlures ; and, even at Rugby, it holds a very inferior place, counting little or nothing in the scale by which rank is determined, and therefore not really looked upon as a part of the serious work of the school. The light in which modern science is viewed by the body of schoolmasters who govern these schools, is curiously brought out in the cross-examination of the Rev. George Moberly, for twenty-seven years head-master of Winchester. He says : — It is plainly out of the question, that we should teach chemistry, astronomy, geology, &c. All that is, in ray opinion, possible, and there- fore desirable, to attempt, is that a course of ledlures on each of the chief subjefts of science in turn should be delivered in the school annually. ... A few boys, who intend to pursue it in any way, either as amateurs or professionally, may get assistance from these ledlures. An amateur of a science is the better for knowing the elements of it ; and every man of liberal education is the better for not being ignorant of any thing : but, compared with other things, a scientific fa6t, either as conveyed by a leAurer or as reproduced in examination, is a fadt which produces noth- ing in a boy's mind. It is simply a barren fadt, which he remembers, or does not remember, for a time ; and which after a few years becomes confused with other fadls, and is forgotten. It leads to nothing; it does not germinate. It is a perfedlly unfruitful fadt. . . . Such instrudtion is worthless as education, ^u. Are the physical sciences not of value as a discipline of the mind ? Ans. I hardly know -what their value is. I do think it is very desirable that young people and old people should know these things. I think they are matters of accomplishment and knowledge which everybody should know something of. But as a mat- 18 CLASSICAL AND SCIENTIFIC STUDIES. ter of education and training of the mind, which is our particular duty as instruftors, I do not feel the value of them. ... If we were going to make chemists, we would educate them in that way ; but we want a gen- eral, education, which will be introdudlory to other things, — things which would be of more general value : tiese things give no fovier. (Vol. iii. p. 344, et seq.") Upon being afterwards asked whether he does not "think that per- sons who have had a philosophical education are sometimes persons whose general powers of mind would lead him to believe that such an education goes beyond a knowledge of fa(5ts, — that it also leaves power and a high state of education generally," — he answers, that there cer- tainly are scientific men of high capacity, and that he should wish any one who had praSlical views before him to cultivate those studies ; but he seriously objedls that modern science is hardly yet seventy years old.* Here, then, a surprising fadl meets us at the outset. In the great schools of England, in the middle of the nineteenth century, the whole of modern physical science, one-half of knowledge as we just now divided it, — the whole study of the outward world, — is, I do not say, pursued imperfedlly : it is not pursued at all ; it is absolutely ignored as an essential part of education : and a head-master of twenty-seven years' standing can be found who says he thinks that as a training of the mind it is worthless ! — it gives no power ! We shall, by and by, see what the most eminent of English men of science think on that subjedl. If we turn now to the study of the modern languages of Europe, w^e find this to be the Commissioners' account of the study of French at Eton : — M. Tarver, the single teacher of French at Eton, . . . has no recog- nized position in the school, other than that of " a person holding the privilege to teach French," and describes himself — not untruly, as it seems — as "a mere objet de luxe. ... He reckons his average attend- ance, which is mostly from the Fifth Form, at eighty, or about one- tenth of the school. . . . Whilst the number who learn is small, the teacher is embarrassed by obstacles which, from no fault of his, largely frustrate his efforts to teach. The study of French is comparatively useless, if not steadily kept up. Being optional at Eton, it is not pur- sued continuously, but by fits and starts ; and, as it involves an extra See his evidence more at large, vol. iii. p. 343, et seq. CLASSICAL AND SCIENTIFIC STUDIES. 19 expense to the parents, and to the boy a sacrifice of some hours of play, we are not surprised to find that the attendance is often greatly reduced by the most trivial reasons. Being excluded from the school- work, it wants almost etitirely the indispensable stimulus of reward and punishment. . . . French is not required, nor under the present head- master allowed, to assist a boy's rise in the school. The opinion of the present head-master (the Rev. Mr. Balston) on this subje(5l was expressed very distinctly in his examination : — (Lord Clarendon.) Would it not be considered necessary by the authorities of Eton to render obligatory a thing which they think ought to be a part of an English gentleman's education.? — I should not. You would not consider it necessary to devote any part of the school-time to its acquisition? — No, not a day. You do not intend to do so.' — No. Do you not think that it is a matter which a boy should be required to learn.' — He ought to learn French before he came to Eton, and we could take measures to keep it up as we keep up English. What measures would you take to keep up French .' and, I may add, what measures do you now take to- keep up English at Eton.' — There are none at present, except through the ancient languages. You can scarcely learn English reading and writing through Thucy- dides? — No. (Sir S. Northcote.) You do not think it is satisfacflory?- — No : the English teaching is not satisfadlory ; and, as a question of precedence, I would have English taught before French. You do not consider that English is taught at present .' — No. (Vol. i. p. 84-SO The number of boys who learned German was twenty, out of seven hundred and eighty. The Italian master, Signor Volpe, reports himself as having i/iree pupils. He apparently does not look for any such good fortune as to have pupils ; but, in an amusing letter to the Commissioners, in rather imperfedt English, he begs that he may have a room of his own allowed him, when he comes down from London, to put his head in when it rains. At Winchester, forty boys out of one hundred and ninety-seven learned German ; but more attention was paid to French, though it counted nothing for promotion. At Harrow, the study of modern languages has been compulsory since 1851, and it counts something for rank: but it is not till we come to Rugby that we find a real attention paid to modern languages as an integral part of a good education ; and even 20 CLASSICAL AND SCIENTIFIC STUDIES. there they are still in an inferior position, and th^ results are reported as very imperfeft. Here, then, we find the study of modern- languages ranging through different degrees of imperfedlion ; from absolute and almost ludicrous failure at Eton, up to something like a proper estimation at Rugby, but everywhere subordinate, and every- where with imperfedl results ; and one head-master declaring that, if he could have his way, they should not be studied at all. We come now to the study of the mother-tongue and its literature ; a tongue which, if it had not paramount claims as the motker-tor\^\xe, would be second to none in power, or in the value of the treasures it contains. What encouragement is given to young English noblemen and gentlemen to master, and learn to appreciate, the language of Shakspeare and Milton and Bacon? We have already seen the importance attached to the study of English by that wonderful man, the head-mas- ter of Eton. He would have the boys' French kept up by the same measures by which their English was kept up ; and, upon being pressed as to the measures by which English was kept up, it turned out that there were no measures, except the inci- dental one of translating from the ancient languages, which he had to confess was a very unsatisfadlory measure, and in which it turns out afterwards that no pains is taken with their Eng- lish at all. Here, then, is a pendant to the ideas respedting science of one head-master, in the ideas respedling English of another. French and English, according to the evidence of Mr. Balston, are treated with perfedly impartial, because abso- lutely complete, negleft ; and, if we pass to the other schools, the case does not anywhere seem to be much better. A good deal of evidence was taken as to the tastes of the boys, as shown in their private reading ; and here is a sample of it. It is from the evidence of Mr. Mitchell, a student at Oxford, who had just left Eton, after being there six years : — Was there a good deal of private reading in general literature, as far as you know, at Eton ? — I think very little. There was no general desire for information? — No. CLASSICAL AKD SCIENTIFIC STUDIES. 21 It was not considered any part of business or pleasure at Eton to keep up a reading of the general knowledge of the day? — No : I do not think so. (Sir S. Northcote.) Did they read newspapers? — I think those who belonged to the debating-society [twenty-eight in number] read them. I do not think the other part of the school did. (Mr. Thompson.) Do you think the majority of the boys had read the greater part of Sir Walter Scott's novels?' — I do not know; I should think they had probably. Do you think they had read the principal poets, such as Shakspeare? — I do not think they read Shakspeare. Much less Milton, I suppose? — No : I do not think they did. They were obliged to read him a little, were they not, for verses ? — Yes. But, beyond reading over the passages set for Greek iambics and hexameters, you do not think Milton and Shakspeare much read ? — No, I do not. Would you say that the modern poets are read? Did you ever hear of any one reading Coleridge? — Some boys do; but I think, as a rule, most boys read nothing at all except novels, and books of that sort. What sort of novels, — serial novels? — Yes. Thackeray's? — Yes. Or would that be too difficult? — I do not think Thackeray is read very much. Lever, perhaps? — Yes. (Lord Clarendon.) Bulwer? — Yes. (Mr. Thompson.) They do read a great many novels? — Yes. (Mr. Vaughan.) How do they get the novels that they read ? — They buy them ; and then they pass about the house, from one boy to another. It is the cheapness that determines the book sele