BEFORE THE City of Spokane, Spokane Chamber of Commerce of ^ Spokane, Spokane Jobbers' Association, and the County *of Spokane, Petitioners and Complainants, vs. Northern Pacific Railway Company, Great Northern Railway Company, The Union Pacific Railroad Company, Oregon Railroad d Navigation Company, Spokane Falls d Northern Railway Company, Defendants. Canadian Pacific Raihvay Company, Chicago, Burling¬ ton d Quincy Railway Company, Chicago d North¬ western Railway Company, Lake Shore d Michigan Southern Railway Company, The New York Central d Hudson River Railroad Company, Pittsburg, Fort Wayne d Chicago Railway Company, Pennsylvania Railioay Company, New York, New Haven d Hart¬ ford Railroad Company, and Boston d Maine Rail¬ road Company, Defendants by Order of Commission. Pacific Coast Jobbers d Manufacturers' Association, The Portland Chamber of Commerce, Merchants' Protective Association of Seattle, and Tacoma Traf¬ fic Association, Intervenors. J > REPLY BRIEF OF PETITIONERS AND COMPLAINANTS H. M. Stephens, Attorney for the Petitioners and Com¬ plainants. Lawrence Hamblen, Corporation Counsel of the City of Spokane, and Frank Allen, Assistant Corporation Counsel of the City of Spokane, for the City of Spokane. R. M. Barnhart, Prosecuting Attorney of Spokane County, for the County of Spokane. THE INLAND PRINTING CO., SPOKANE. "> > "> t -» Bll BEFORE THE , i " * * " " ^ l> l1! *» r,, City of Spokane, Spokane Chamber of Commerce of ^ Spokane, Spokane Jobbers' Association, and the County K)f Spokane, Petitioners and Complainants, vs. Northern Pacific Railway Company, Great Northern Railway Company, The Union Pacific Railroad Company, Oregon Railroad d Navigation Company, Spokane Falls d Northern Railivay Company, Defendants. Canadian Pacific Railway Company, Chicago, Burling¬ ton ct- Quincy Railway Company, Chicago & North¬ western Railway Company, Lake Shore d Michigan Southern Railway Company, The New York Central d Hudson River Railroad Company, Pittsburg, Fort Wayne d Chicago Railway Company, Pennsylvania Railway Company, New York, New Haven d Hart¬ ford Railroad Company, and Boston d Maine Rail¬ road Company, Defendants by Order of Commission. Pacific Coast Jobbers d Manufacturers' Association, The Portland Chamber of Commerce, Merchants' Protective Association of Seattle, and Tacoma Traf¬ fic Association, Intervenors. y REPLY BRIEF OF PETITIONERS AND COMPLAINANTS H. M. Stephens, Attorney for the Petitioners and Com¬ plainants. Lawrence Hamblen, Corporation Counsel of the City of Spokane, and Frank Allen, Assistant Corporation Counsel of the City of Spokane, for the City of Spokane. R. M. Barnhart, Prosecuting Attorney of Spokane County, for the County of Spokane. TMI INLAND PRINTING CO., SPOKANE. vVv V-^ 2 REPLY BRJ£fr.QPP£T:IIiftNeRS AND COMPLAINANTS , It is impossible* within reasonable limits, to review in detail the brrefs:oT*flffi''de'fdndants and intervenors, or any or either of them. It is hoped, however, that this reply brief will, in con¬ nection with the other briefs of complainants, be sufficient to meet and refute the positions and contentions of defend¬ ants. It is significant that notwithstanding the Canadian Pacific Railway Company has been made a party to this proceeding, it has not appeared at any hearing and it is not contesting this proceeding and by its absence and silence has admitted that the complainants are entitled to the relief they are asking. It should be assumed and is a reasonable assumption that it would be satisfactory to the Canadian Pacific and its connecting lines for this Commission to give and to grant to the complainants herein all the relief which they are seeking. If a terminal rate be satisfactory to the Canadian Pacific, it must be deemed a reasonable and fair rate, and a reason¬ able rate for the original defendants in this proceeding. That single fact warrants this Commission in granting the full measure of the relief that the complainants seek herein. As stated in the opening brief, if the horizontal reduc¬ tion is not made, then it will become the duty of this Com- 3 mission to determine what reduction should he made upon all traffic originating in territory not subject to water compe¬ tition. territory not subject to water competition. Rightfully, the rates upon this traffic should be less to Spokane than to Coast points, and if this lesser rate is enforced\ the reductions from income and the amount of loss to the defendants would be greater than the horizontal reductions sought. BRIEF OF THE GREAT NORTHERN RAILWAY COMPANY. (The figures in parenthesis, unless otherwise indicated, are references to the pages of the briefs of defendants.) It is admitted (9) that within what is termed the Spo¬ kane Territory or "Spokane Zone," only 70 per cent of the merchandise sold is distributed through the City of Spokane. It is shown in the opening brief of petitioners thai- Spokane has no distributing territory or "Zone" to the east of Spokane. It appears in the evidence that dealers and jobbers of Spokane are not able to sell anything in the territory beyond 100 miles to the west and south of the City of Spokane, while the Coast jobbers are able to sell in the "Spokane Territory." The statement of the Great Northern Railway Com¬ pany (33) shows that the local or state traffic is only about It is not denied by any of the defendants that 70 per cent of the interstate traffic to Spokane from the East originates in 4 25 per cent of, or one-quarter as much as, the interstate traffic. • The complainants agree with the counsel for the Great Northern Railway Company in his assertion that the com¬ plainants are required to pay reasonable rates, and that the complainants are not entitled to any reduction, which would result in the defendants receiving less than a reasonable rate. Complainants also assert that defendants are not entitled to'anything in excess of reasonable rates. It is true that the complainants have alleged that prac¬ tically all the rates to Spokane are unreasonable. Counsel for the Great Northern Railway Company, therefore, insist that the burden of proof is upon the complainants to estab¬ lish the fact that the rates are unreasonable. The complainants contend that they have sustained the allegations of the complaint in every way possible. If the facts in this case do not show the rates to be unreasonable no case can be imagined wherein it would be possible to so do. The people at Spokane and in the surrounding country are entitled to a reasonable rate upon and over the shortest and cheapest route. This Commission has been committed to that doctrine many years. In the case of Newland vs. Northern Pacific Railroad Company et al., 6 Interstate Commerce Reports, 143-4, it was held that shippers of wheat were entitled to have wheat go from Ritzville, Washington, to Wallula over the North- 5 ern Pacific Railroad and thence to Portland over the Union Pacific System, and to have the rate fixed over that route because transportation over that route was less expensive than to go the more circuitous and longer route over the Northern Pacific across the Cascade Mountains and thence to Portland. The language of the Commission in that case is as follows : The complainants "claim that they have a just and reasonable right to have the products of their farms carried to market by the shortest and least expensive routes at a reasonable through rate." In this we believe no more is demanded by complainants than is their right under the law, and the rate from Ritzville to Portland which the carrier or carriers may lawfully exact must be reasonable for the transportation bv the shorter and less expensive route through Wallula Junction. In this case the Commission further held that the Com¬ mission would presume that the rate fixed by the agreement between two companies was reasonable and remunerative to the company having the longest and most expensive haul. The language of the Commission is as follows: It may be fairly assumed that the rates separately made over their respective routes or lines by the Union Pacific System and the Northern Pacific Company, as well as the rates made by them jointly from these distant branch line points are reasonably remunerative and profitable; and in view of all the ascertained facts we must believe that reason¬ able compensation for the transportation of like products over these longer lines embracing the much more costly branch line service is excessive and unreasonable for the less expensive service over the more direct and very much shorter Wallula Junction route from Ritzville to Portland. J his case is authority for the further contention made by the complainants that the rate by the longer route, that is the Union Pacific route, fixed by agreement between the de- 6 fendants, must (as against defendants) be presumed reason¬ able for the Union Pacific Company. The Union Pacific was more expensively built, and the complainants are entitled to have the rate fixed upon the less expensive route. Other cases supporting these propositions are as follows: Jerome Hill Cotton Company vs. M. K. & T. R. Co., 6 I. C. R. Report, 622. Chamber of Commerce vs. Chicago M. & S. T. P. R. Co., 7 I. C. R., 508. Reo vs. Mobile & Ohio R. R. Co., 7 I. C. R., 52. Phillips, Bailey & Co. vs. L. & N. R. R. Co., 8 I. C. R., 93, 106-8. Counsel are in error in contending that the establishment of water competition eliminates the Coast rates as a com¬ parison with the Spokane rates. ^ The effect of showing water competition is simply to 1 relieve the defendants from the obligation of the fourth clause of the Interstate Commerce Act and does not relieve them from the further obligation of that law to charge reasonable rates only. The mere fact of admitting that greater rates are charged for the longer than the shorter haul shifts the burden of proof and requires the defendants to show that they are not making a reasonable profit from the lower rates at the greater distance point. The defendants did not attempt to prove that they have not received a fair, reasonable and remunerative return from the business to the greater distance points. Freight Bureau vs. Cincinnati N. O. & T. P. R. Co., 4 I. C. R., 611-2. 7 # Board of Trade of Chattanooga vs. E. Tenn., Va. & Ga. R. Co., 4 I. C. R., 222. Freight Bureau vs. Cincinnati, etc. Co. et al., 6 I. C. R., 236-8. Counsel for defendant states that the water rates are from 20 to 60 per cent, or an average • of 40 per cent, below the rail rate. It is clear, therefore, that the defendants are not meeting the water rates and do not need to meet the water rates in orde** to secure the business. Under these conditions it is more than safe to indulge in the presumption that reasonable rates and remunerative rates are received for Coast business by the defendants. There is no presumption, in the absence of evidence, that the rates charged by the defendants for Coast business are unreasonable or unremunerative, in the face of the fact that those rates are on an average 40 per cent greater than water rates. From the fact that the defendants have all the business they can do and more freight is offered than they can haul, and the water companies seem to be in like situation, the result shown by the evidence naturally follows, namely, a raising of the rates by the water companies and the rail companies simultaneously. Counsel for the Great Northern Railway Company (39) state that it costs as much to haul an empty car as it would cost to haul a loaded car. The result is that the hauling of an empty car westward is a great loss, and this loss the 8 % defendants expect the Spokane people to make good, to a great extent, notwithstanding the fact that nearly all of the empty cars are hauled further west than Spokane. The petitioners are not complaining of the fact that the defendants haul freight westward to Coast points, nor of the fact that Oriental trade is being developed, or that any other community is prosperous, but they are complaining that the rates charged to Spokane and surrounding country are in and of themselves unreasonable as compared to everything with which they may be compared and with reference to the facts and conditions shown by the evidence. If the rates to Spokane cannot be compared to Coast rates simply from the fact that there is water competition at coast points there is still ample evidence in this case upon which to sustain the allegation that the rates to Spokane are in and of themselves unreasonable. There isn't any evidence in this case that the defendants, or either of them, hauled freight to Japan or China at a loss and this Commission is bound to assume that they were not hauled at a loss. The evidence of the loss, if any, was in the possession of defendants and they failed to produce any such evidence. T hey knew that the Oriental rate sheet would be used as a comparison with the Spokane rates and the defendants failed to even suggest that the rates received on Oriental freight are unremunerative or unreasonable. Commissioner Clements in the case of Phillips, Bailey & Co. vs. Louisville & Nashville R. Co., 8 I. C. R., 106-8, clearly points out the erroneous contention made by counsel 9 that the Coast rates cannot be used for comparison in reach¬ ing a just conclusion as to what are reasonable rates to Spokane. The complainants more than sustain any burden of proof that the law casts upon them. The annual reports show increased earnings from'year to year until the gross and net earnings have more than doubled, and the traffic is greater and denser than any other transcontinental road; that the Great Northern Railway Company has been paying annual dividends every year, at the rate of 7 per cent per annum, and has accumulated a large suiplus, and now has an almost unlimited amount of surplus on hand, and with its capital stock has purchased stock and bonds of other companies, almost equal in amount to the capital stock of the Great Northern Railway Company, and that it still has those stocks and bonds; that, in addition to large expenditures for operating expenses and maintenance, the Great Northern Railway Company has expended tremen¬ dous amounts in permanent improvements, such as re-laying its entire main line and much of the branch lines with heavier steel, revising its grades, changing the alignment of its tracks and building numerous permanent structures, and construct¬ ing a tunnel through the Cascade Mountains, and built and put afloat the largest steamers on the Pacific Ocean and Great Lakes. The actual net earnings, therefore, are much greater than shown by the annual reports of the Great Northern Railway Con pany. io Its earnings have been for many years much in excess of the dividends actually paid. The road has been practically rebuilt out of earnings. More than a prima facie case was made by the complain¬ ants when they showed the excessive earnings of the Great Northern Railway Company and its capitalization. • To meet the more than prima facie case made by com¬ plainants, the defendants undertook to show exaggerated present value and cost of reproduction at this time. By so doing, the defendants admitted the prima facie case of the complainants and the burden of proof shifted upon the defendants to show that, by a reduction of the rates as prayed for, a reasonable profit would not remain. The defendants failed to show what it would cost to reproduce a transcontinental railroad at the present time. In order to do so it was necessary for them to show, not the boom prices existing at the time of the hearing, but the average prices for the time that it would take to build the road. The defendants, although requested so to do, failed and neglected to furnish evidence of any value or values covering tiie period claimed by the defendants it would take to con¬ struct a transcontinental line. The matter quoted by counsel (45) from the opening biaef of complainants, should be qualified to the extent of saying that as against the defendants, but not in their favor the rate for a longer distance over the Union Pacific to Spokane will be presumed reasonable in comparison with 11 the same rate for the shorter distance. Therefore, the same rate for the shorter distance is necessarily excessive and un¬ reasonable. Counsel attempt to argue that the rate, over the Union Pacific, Northern Pacific and Great Northern is competitive. This is incorrect. The rates were agreed upon between the three companies, and they are not competitive rates in any sense. This Commission has so held and its opinion has been confirmed by the court of last resort. Central Yellow Pine Asso. vs. 111. C. R. Co. et al., 10 I. C. R., 541. 111. Central R. R. Co. vs. Interstate Commerce Com¬ mission, 27 S. C. R., 700. The natural advantages of sea Coast cities do not warrant railroads in charging unreasonable rates to interior points. It follows that a reasonable rate to Spokane cannot be based upon a water rate to coast points plus the local rate back to Spokane. That would be purely and wholly an arbi¬ trary rate and without reference to the services performed. Usually the service performed is governed primarily by dis¬ tance, and the mere fact that there is wTater competition to Coast points does not warrant charges or rates to Spokane which are equal to the Coast rates plus arbitrary rates back to Spokane. Counsel state that the rates now in force were made at Spokane's request and for her benefit and protection (46). Since the first case before this Commission, many years 1 2 ago, Spokane and its people have been contending that they were and are entitled to terminal rates or better than terminal rates. At a meeting held in Chicago a reduction of rates was granted. Before that meeting a "boycott" had been declared, according to Mr. Woodworth, on account of the grossly ex¬ cessive rates which had for many years been exacted. It is clear that Spokane and its people did not secure all that they were entitled to or all that they demanded. It is safe to say that the conference was held at the solicitation of the Great Northern Railway Company and the Northern Pacific Company rather than the people of Spokane. If Spokane had reasonable and fair freight rates with its natural advantages, it would be a much greater city than it is today. In the immediate vicinity of Spokane there is almost unlimited water power. This water power can be used to develop electric power which can be delivered within 100 miles of Spokane at not to exceed $30.00 per horse power per annum, while steam horse power (we are in¬ formed) will cost more than three times that sum. If natural advantages are to be .considered and given an opportunity to develop, the electric power above mentioned would, within a limited time, be in use for large and extensive manufacturing purposes, and for operating all the railroads within a distance of 150 or more miles from Spokane. The result would be a much larger and better city than now exists. Counsel (48) use this sentence,— "Undoubtedly a public carrier would be allowed,' during 1 3 % such times to make such rates as would enable it to hold funds in reserve for the less prosperous era sure to follow." If less prosperous eras are sure to follow, 'then the boom prices of today should not be taken for the determination ot the value or cost of reproduction. The value or cost of reproduction should not be greater than the average between the prosperous eras and dull eras, which are "sure to follow." The complainants contend that the defendants have already been permitted to hold funds in reserve "for the less prosperous era sure to follow" and that the surplus now on hand is more than sufficient to meet the requirements of the contentions made by the defendants. The evidence shows that very, very large net profits are now on hand and that the net profits are, under the law, very much greater than now appear, for the reason that perma¬ nent improvements have been charged to operating expenses. Counsel do not indicate just what the amount of surplus should be. As a matter of law, they are not entitled to any surplus whatever. Complainants have, however, been much more than liberal in not attacking and asking for return of exorbitant rates, but are willing that the very large surplus and reserve now on hand should be retained, but insist that the time has arrived when the accumulation of any additions to that sur¬ plus ought to cease. Counsel say (^o) — 14 "It is clear that the amount of the investment is not the_ basis upon which the income the owner of such property is entitled to receive should be computed." Assuming this statement to be the law, then the invest¬ ment today of the whole sum necessary to acquire a trans¬ continental railroad would not be the basis for computing earnings or upon which the owner is entitled to receive com¬ pensation. The object and purpose of this Commission should and doubtlessly will be to fix rates with reference to about the average condition of affairs, and not upon boom prices or boom values. All of the defendants insist upon the boom values being taken and fixing the values at the present time, and yet at the same time state that the present condition of affairs cannot continue long. It is just as fair, therefore, to contend that the rates should be fixed upon "panicky" prices and values as to contend that they should be fixed by boom prices and conditions. Formerly this Commission was committed to the doctrine that earnings of railroad companies should not be in excess of a reasonable return upon investments; that is, the earnings might be less than a return upon the investments when invest¬ ments were not properly or honestly made, but never greater than upon the investment. I he opinions of this Commission indicate that railroad lates should not be subject to fluctuations and variations as the prices and values of ordinary commodities fluctuate and vary. 1S Under the opinions of the Commission the defendants are not entitled to earn anything upon increased values due to the growth of the country or cities, but should be limited to and not exceed actual investments. Newland vs. Northern Pacific R. R. Co. et ah, 6 I. C. R., 144. Cary vs. Eureka Springs R. Co., 7 I. C. R., 316-7. v Counsel (53) state that the original cost of $28,000 per mile does not represent a fair value of the conditions of the Great Northern Railway Company, because many and expensive improvements and betterments have been made to the property, line changes and grade revisions made, ex¬ pensive terminals and other property added. 1 Counsel fail to state that these many and expensive im¬ provements and betterments, changes, revisions, terminals and other additions have practically all been made from net earn¬ ings and profits. They do not represent investments by the stockholders. The annual reports show that the money invested by the stockholders has been mainly in branch lines and that the main line and branch lines have all been extensively and per¬ manently improved, almost unlimited betterments made and a great many line changes and grade revisions and expensive terminals and other additions paid out of the earnings. They represent investments by those who pay the freight. The consumers have unwillingly made these investments. The stockholders of the Great Northern have not made these in¬ vestments. Certainly the time has arrived when the consumers are i6 entitled to insist that the property has been bettered and im¬ proved to such an extent that freight rates can be materially reduced and the stockholders still receive a liberal remunera¬ tion upon the actual investments made by stockholders. Counsel insist (53) that Mr. Hogeland has been cor¬ roborated in all respects where he differed from Mr. Gillette. This is incorrect. In many respects it was possible for the defendants to have corroborated Mr. Hogeland if the facts justify such corroboration, but they failed in that respect. Many witnesses when cross-examined upon vital points were forced to confess ignorance when they ought to have been able to testify fully. The fact is that the inflated and boom prices at Seattle have decreased about 25 per cent since the hearing of this case. This is outside the record but can be readily ascer¬ tained. It has never been conceded by complainants in this case that it would require as much as $300,000,000.00 to repro¬ duce the Great Northern System. The estimate of three hundred million is greatly in excess of what the complainants believe would be required to reproduce the Great Northern System, but it was deemed more than liberal to take that as a basis of reproduction for the reason that the Great Northern Railway Company is earning more than a reason¬ able income on that sum. The tables presented by counsel (57, 60) are unwar¬ ranted. * I he annual reports show a large amount of the income 17 expended for maintenance of the property. When such sums are actually expended nothing further is allowable for depreci¬ ation and all that is charged oft to depreciation in the annual reports is nothing more or less than surplus or profit, and after being charged to the profit and loss account it is in one way or another divided between the stockholders. Quite a different result would follow by failing to deduct the amount of alleged depreciation as shown by this table. If 3 per cent be deducted for depreciation then the amount $ expended for maintenance of the property cannot also be deducted. This would be doubling the depreciation. The table shows upon its face that it is unreliable and untrustworthy because it shows so much less earned than is actually being paid out by the Great Northern Railway Com¬ pany. The interest charges are paid, and dividends at the rate of 7 per cent are paid upon all stock and more than $ 10,000,000 net surplus after payment of liberal sums for maintenance and permanent improvements and betterments. The capital stock and bonds aggregate in round numbers $250,000,000.00 and add to this as more than a liberal addition $50,000,000.00 and pay 7 per cent thereon, or $3,500,000.00, subtract double the estimated loss of revenue by reduction of rates and there will remain a very large sur¬ plus from present earnings, and a more than sufficient sum to adjust local and eastbound rates. It is therefore useless to contend that the Great Northern Railway Company is making less than 6 per cent upon the money of the stockholders. 18 Counsel are in error (58) in saying that the Commission directed defendant, Great Northern Railway Company, to furnish certain information with reference to eight months of the fiscal year ending June 30, I9°7* The information required was for the first six months of the fiscal year ending June 30th, 1907, and because of the blockade in the months of January and February that Company conceived the idea that it would be more advantageous to it to furnish the infor¬ mation for eight months instead of six months. Complainants take issue with counsel upon the assertion that the net earnings for the fiscal year ending' June 30th, 1907, will be smaller than they were far the fiscal year ending ing June 30, 1907, ought to settle thisGssue, $hich should be available to this Commission now or in the very near future. Counsel for the Great Northern Railway Company are ♦ insisting that the people of Spokane and surrounding country pay losses that may be occasioned by the enforcement of the laws in the States of Minnesota, Dakota and Montana, as well as the law passed by Congress relating to liability to employees. Counsel in effect assert that some or all of these laws will be violated, and that such violation will incur and occasion great penalties. This Commission ought to say to the defendants that they must not violate those laws and in¬ cur those penalties; that stockholders, if there is mismanage¬ ment of its property, must stand the loss. I he fact that the Minnesota laws reduce freight or 19 passenger rates, does not increase the value of services rend¬ ered to Spokane shippers. Surely the losses incurred in the States of Minnesota, Dakota and Montana should not be borne by the people in Idaho or the eastern portion of the State of Washington. The fact that the City of Spokane has grown to a city of considerable magnitude is no justification for the defend¬ ants extorting from the people something like $20,000,000.00 in the past, more than other people to the west of them have paid for the same service. Spokane has been like a Chinaman's foot, is has grown some in spite of torture and the unjustifiable infliction of the heathen Chinese practice. It has never been held, by any court or this Commission, that under all circumstances a railroad company is entitled to earn an income upon the increased value of property by reason of the growth of the country, or which has been pur¬ chased, not by investments of stockholders, but by the invest- \ ment of net earnings, and the investment of excessive charges for freight. Clearly railroad companies are not entitled to earn a sufficient sum to satisfy them in the way of interest, and at the same time rebuild, rehabilitate and reconstruct a road and spend thereon sums equal or nearly equal to the original cost of the system, and yet, as against the public, be entitled to earn upon money contributed by the public and so used by the railroad company. Any one familiar with railroad construction understands 20 thoroughly that a large amount of right-of-way and terminals are always donated. If the cost of reproduction is to be considered, it must be upon the theory that large donations would be made by individuals and communities. It must be upon the further assumption that a transcontinental road would pass through, upon and over a large amount of public lands, upon, over and across which a right-of-way is granted by the general act of Congress of 1875. The evidence and statements furnished by the defend¬ ants, Northern Pacific Railway Company and the Great Northern Railway Company, show that large donations were made to them, respectively. No doubt other communities gave valuable right-of-way and terminals to the Great Northern Railway Company the same as did the people of the City of Spokane. Some of them may have been donated on promises similar to those made to the people of the City of Spokane. The time has passed when the country along the transcon¬ tinental roads, which have been in operation from 14 to 24 years, entitles them to earn any more than if they were being operated in an older community. The northern transconti¬ nental roads have much greater territory, traffic and business than the average of the roads in the older and more thickly populated districts. Mr. Hill does not agree with his counsel (70). Mr. I IiII says that he had investigated the Northwestern country and knew that there was no risk or danger in building 11 to the Northwest or Pacific Coast. He had investigated the forests and knew the extent and quantity thereof. He had investigated and knew the quantity of ores being mined and shipped. He built the Great Northern road to the North Pacific Coast, not because he desired a hazardous under¬ taking or that there was any danger of loss to investors, but because he desired the freight and knew that it was to be had, and that his road could not do otherwise than prosper. In one of Mr. Hill's interviews (Complainants' opening brief, 44) Mr. Hill said: I would not have you imagine we run a railroad for any charitable purpose. we do not run it because of any affection for our fellow beings. We run it solely for business reasons, because we expect- to make money in good round sums. In another interview (Complainants' opening brief, 30) Mr. Hill said: The lumber is what we want. Between here and the Atlantic Coast the lumber forests are insignificant. In Min¬ nesota at the head of the Mississippi, is the only body of timber; there is much demand for pine. In ten years the trans-Mississippi lumber woods will be done. The supply must come from Puget Sound. This is not guess work. I know we can do it. If we would carry the product the country yields, why, it would build us. It is the tonnage we must carry. We might carry a car occasionally, car lots of tea and Japanese fans, but we rely upon the solid tonnage of the country. It is more reasonable for the Government to say to rail¬ road companies that they cannot earn money upon rights- of-way donated by the Government or others, than to hold that the railroad companies are entitled to earn upon values resulting from the growth of the country, or that they shall 22 earn upon investments made from net earnings, or shall earn upon investments from funds belonging to the public / and wrongfully and unlawfully exacted from the public. Railroad companies are no more entitled to earn upon donated rights-of-way, or rights-of-way purchased with net earnings or any other property donated or purchased from net earnings, than they would be to recover substantial damages for the opening of a public street across the right- of-way. It is property in which the public have an interest, and it ought to suffice if the railroad companies are permitted to continue their use of that property without the public paying anything for such use, instead of permitting railroads to earn money thereon. The opening of a public street or highway across a right- of-way of a railroad company is nothing more or less than a use thereof by the public, and a refusal to permit railroad companies to earn an income is but another method of giving to the public the use of the interest that they have in the property. 2 Lewis on Eminent Domain, Sec. 491. The doctrine is well established that if net incomes be used in making permanent improvements and betterments, and thereby the security of the mortgagee is made better, that the mortgagee takes the property charged with the debts incurred, on account of the application of the net income to permanent improvements and betterments, etc. Short s Law of Railway Bonds and Mortgages, Sec. 597 ct seq., and authorities cited by the author. 23 Virginia & A. Coal Company vs. Central Railroad & Banking Co. of Georgia et al., 170 U. S., 370, 18 S. C. R., 6^7. While it may be difficult to fix any absolute standard or rule for the purpose of determining what is a permanent improvement or what is a betterment, at the same time the evidence in this case shows conclusively that millions and millions of dollars have been expended for permanent im¬ provements and betterments. The annual reports of the defendants prove these facts conclusively. Any fair or reasonable rule applied to these defendants, at least the Great Northern Railway Company and the Northern Pacific Railway Company, will show that they are annually expending millions of dollars for permanent im¬ provements and betterments. These expenditures are, in fact and in legal effect, surplus, and should be added to the surplus in considering the result that will follow from a reduction of rates as prayed for in this case. The amount exoended by the Great Northern Railway Company and the Northern Pacific Railway Company, \ annually, for permanent improvements and betterments, will greatly exceed the amount of reductions that will result by the granting of the prayer of the plaintiffs herein. This Commission in the case of the Central Yellow Pine Association vs. 111. Central Railway Company, 10 I. C. R., 537, held that it was not proper to include in operating ex¬ penses expenditures for betterments and permanent improve¬ ments. 24 This Commission also held in that case that the fact that the operating expenses increased was not sufficient to defeat a reduction of rates when the net earnings also increased, or were not decreased. This Commission in that case also held that where a rate is made by agreement between carriers, that competition is eliminated. These holdings are in line with the arguments herein and heretofore made. This Commission, in the last mentioned case, also held that they are not required to determine accurately the value of the property of the common carriers, when the evidence is conflicting, or when it is uncertain or unsatisfactory. See pages 535-541, 543"4- The Supreme Court of the United States in the case of Illinois Central Railway Company vs. Interstate Commerce Commission, 27 S. C. R., 700, has affirmed the holdings of the Commission in the case last above mentioned. That Court holds that the question of reasonable rates is one of fact and that the findings of the Commission will not be disturbed, and affirmed.the conclusions of lav/ reached by the Commission. That Court also held in the case last referred to that freights are tolls and that tolls must be reasonable for the services rendered. The Court held in the case of Texas and Pacific Railway vs. Ahiline Cotton Oil Company, 27 S. C. R., 350, that when a rate is filed with the Commission that no remedy 25 exists through the courts or elsewhere than through this Honorable Body. To the same effect is the case of Brooklyn Union Gas Company vs. City of New York, 188 New York, 334; 81 N. E., 141. It is of vital importance that rates should be made as low as this Commission can consistently and reasonably fix them, 0 in view of those decisions. In all of the computations made by the defendants none of them take into consideration the additional net earnings expended or which have been charged off or put into a sepa¬ rate account for permanent improvements and betterments. The policy pursued by the defendants in making improve¬ ments and betterments have greatly exceeded what is reason¬ able and equitable as between the carriers and consumers. This is confessed, by the defendants practically ignoring that subject. If it is necessary to re-build, re-grade, re-lay with heavier steel and re-align the main line and many of the branches of the defendants every ten or fifteen years out of earnings, no relief could ever be granted shippers or consumers. Counsel (74) uses this sentence: "Minor improvements, such as bank widening, line changes, grade revisions, substitution of heavy for light rails, changes from wooden to steel bridges, and improvement of equipment, were to a considerable extent made out of earn¬ ings, while generally new lines were acquired, and the more extensive improvements and additions were made, by the issuance of new capital stock " It is safe for this Commission to assume without looking 2 6 any further that when counsel for the Great Northern Rail¬ way Company failed to point out wherein any of the above mentioned things have been done with the proceeds of capital stock, that nothing of the kind was done, and that everything mentioned in the quotation represents surplus and profits, except, that part of the new lines were purchased with pro¬ ceeds from capital stock. Judging from the annual reports rates are being reduced almost everywhere except upon Interstate freight to Spokane. Counsel argue, however (74-5), that the fixing of the rates by the defendants and the payment thereof by the public, concludes the question of the reasonableness of the rates. If this argument is sound, all the decisions that have ever been rendered must be reversed and a new decision promul¬ gated, namely, that whatever rate a railroad fixes is a reason- ble rate. If that be the law or the condition that confronts us, and that decision or law be promulgated, the people of the United States will reverse that decision and law by an appropriate revolution. * The argument thus made, followed to its logical con¬ clusion, would necessitate this Commission adjudging them¬ selves to be dummies, useless and worthless ornaments, and that Congress was imbecilic. In this proceeding the complainants are not attempting to recover the excessive, exorbitant rates they have heretofore paid or that have been paid by the consumers, but they are 27 insisting that the defendants shall not earn so large an in¬ come as heretofore upon those illegal and unlawful exactions invested in permanent improvements and betterments. In this contention the complainants have an abiding faith that their contentions are more than reasonable and fair and that this Commission will so adjudge. Complainants still insist that the tables shown in their opening brief on page 95 are accurate with the qualifications there suggested. Pages 26 and 27 of the 1906 Annual Re¬ port of the Great Northern Railway Company show the gross earnings of that company alone to be $46,259,550.12, operating expenses $23,131,081.11, taxes $1,605,801.09, leaving the income from operation of the Great Northern Railway Company alone $21,520,667.92. From this amount there should be deducted the net rentals as shown on page 27, and the net income from operation is the result. It is $17,413,572.96. To this should be added "other income" of $2,202,302.13, making a total income of the Great North¬ ern Railway Company alone $19,615,675.09, from which should be deducted the dividends declared of $9,300,385.50, leaving a balance of $10,315,279.59, without taking into ac¬ count the "miscellaneous income" received ($1,409,255.90) and without taking into consideration the income from pro¬ prietary lines, which is almost $3,000,000.00. The bonds and stock of proprietary companies are owned by the Great Northern Railway Company and not in the hands of the public. Hence, there is nothing further to deduct from what is shown as the net income of proprietary lines on page 26 of the 1906 annual report. 28 The table may be made up as follows: Gross earnings (page 26) including propri¬ etary companies $53,076,661.49 Operating expenses (page 26) including pro¬ prietary companies 26,853,145.60 $26,223,515.89 Less taxes (page 26) including proprietary companies 1,822,953.81 Income from operation (page 26) including proprietary companies 24,400,562.08 Other income (page 28) . 2,202,302.13 Net income.... 26,602,864.21 Rentals, interest, etc. (page 27) 4,107,094.96 $22,495,769.25 Dividends, etc. (page 28) 9,300,395.31 Net income—net profits $13,195,373.94 This table eliminates all the objections made by counsel in their brief. Complainants do not agree with the counsel (85-6) in their statement with reference to stock and bonds owned by the Great Northern Railway Company. The annual reports, in evidence, of said company, however, are not now before the writer hereof. It is, therefore, necessary to burden the Commission with investigation of this matter if they deem it vital. The statements of counsel as to the earnings of propri¬ etary companies and the surplus thereof do not seem to be in accord with the evidence. The balance sheet (p. 33) of the 1906 annual reports 29 shows $9,172,469.68 of surplus funds of proprietary com¬ panies deposited with the Great Northern Railway Company." In addition to that surplus fund there is a surplus in the treas¬ ury of the St. Paul, Minneapolis and Manitoba Railway * Company of over $2,000,000.00. The condensed balance sheet also shows almost $12,000,- 000.00 of unexpended surplus transferred to the funds there¬ in indicated. Said balance sheet also shows the Great North¬ ern Railway Company has a balance in its profit and loss account, which is nothing but surplus, of $25,571,453.99. These statements in the annual report do not seem to be in accord with the statements of counsel and tables shown on pages 88-9 of their brief. The table on page 89 shows nearly $2,000,000.00 loss in operating the Steamship Company that the Great Northern Railway Company is attempting to make complainants and other shippers pay. The defendants are not entitled to deduct three per cent for depreciation and at the same time deduct the large ex¬ penditures for maintenance shown by the annual reports. They cannot do both. If they accept the depreciation of three per cent per annum, then their net surplus must be in¬ creased by the amounts charged to repairs, maintenance, im¬ provements and betterments in the annual reports. Complainants are unable to find any explanation of the table on page 95 of the brief of the Great Northern Railway Company. Complainants cannot find any justification there¬ for in the annual reports. / 3° According to page 26 of the 1906 Annual Report, the net income of proprietary lines is in round numbers $3,000,- 000.00, and the complainants are unable to find any table from which the tables of counsel are taken. • The attempt of counsel for the most part, has been to insist that the Great Northern Railway shall be taken as a whole, as a system, yet when surplus and net income are to be dealt with, they desire a segregation. They are not en¬ titled to segregate for one purpose and insist that the railways shall be taken as a whole for another purpose. It was not incumbent upon the Great Northern Railway Company to permit its stockholders to subscribe for new increases thereof at par. It was entitled to have the same sold at the market price, and if the stockholders desired to purchase the same in proportion to their holdings at the market price, they had such right. Stokes vs. Continental Trust Co., 186 New York, 285; 78 N. E., 1090. The fact that the market value of stock is above par, demonstrates that investors are willing to take as dividends much less than the dividends that have actually been paid. The fact that it would be necessary for the defendants to make a re-arrangement of rates, does not obviate the necessity of this Commission lowering rates which are too high and unreasonable. The statement that (100) the rates now existing were granted at the request of Spokane has already been noted. If the complainants arc willing to take their chances with 31 the Seattle, Tacoma and Portland shiopers as to the territory in which they can do business with an equal rate, why not let them have that opportunity? If terminal rates to Spokane be reasonable, as to what territory will be distributed over by shippers at Spokane and other places is a question of the "survival of the fittest," and the consumer will reap the benefit. No argument has been advanced and no reason given why rates should be main¬ tained and the consumer be required to pay excessive and unreasonable and exorbitant freight rates, because some job¬ ber at either one or many places may desire to co-operate with the railroad to parcel out territory. Complainants and all others are entitled to reasonable rates whatever may be the result. The statements of counsel (101) with reference to this being a jobbers' fight, etc., are unwarranted and not in accord with the facts or the record. If terminal rates are given to the people of Spokane they are entirely willing to take their chances, and if, under these conditions, the Portland, Tacoma, Seattle and Eastern jobbers shall sell merchandise in, around or about Spokane, no com¬ plaint will be heard from the consumers. The objection made at Portland to the filing of the amended complaint and'intervention was sustained. Hence, the conclusion is irresistible that the filing of the amended complaint at that time was not a proper or appropriate pro- • cceding. The issue affecting eastbound rates should have 32 been raised and presented at an earlier stage of the proceed¬ ings, if proper in this case at all. If the Coast jobbers or any other person or corporation shall • hereinafter file a petition and prosecute proceedings with a view of benefiting the consumer, the complainants herein will not "butt in" or intervene in the proceeding for the purpose of preventing consumers from obtaining reason¬ able rates. If the eastbound rates are too high or if the Interstate distributive rates are too high, let an appropriate proceeding be commenced and prosecuted before this Commission and reasonable rates be established. According to the practice of railroads all over the country there seem to be "zone areas," that is, a mven territory within which rates are the same from all over that territory to terminal and other points. The alleged "zone" of Spokane is not different from "zone areas" all over the country. As to what, if any, lesser rates shall be given to the terri- tory east of Spokane will depend upon the extent that the Commission holds that all "zone" areas shall be abolished. The Supreme Court of'Maine in case of Brunswick & T. Water Dist. vs. Maine .Water Co., 59 Atl., 542, held that the words "present prices" mean prices within a period nec- essary for the construction of the water works, which were to be valued on a given date. 0 Applying this case to railroads,-there isn't any evidence 33 in this case upon which this Commission can base a safe opinion as to cost of reproduction. There isn't any evidence as to values or prices or the average values or prices for the last four years. In the absence of such evidence this Commission cannot allow the defendants to earn anything above the interest, upon the bonds and reasonable dividends, upon their stock, that is, reasonable dividends upon the stock of the most cheaply and economically constructed road. The Maine Court, by analogy, holds the same as this Commission has held, namely: that the public are entitled to have the rates fixed on the least expensive road.t i The Maine Court held (543-4) : If there is mere than one source of supply, other things being equal, the community is entitled to have the least ex¬ pensive one used. ^ ^ ^ A For instance, if water can profitably be served from a nearer source of supply at a certain rate, the company ought not to be permitted to charge a higher rate, based upon the expense of bringing it from the farther and more expensive source. And this even if in attempting to serve this and ether communities together it might be more profitable to the company to do so. Complainants confidently expect this Commission to hold / that reasonable rates to Spokane, in view of all the facts and circumstances in and surrounding this case and proceed ing, shall not exceed the terminal rates at Coast points. Mr. Hill in 1892 stated that he could and would give terminal rates; that his company could and would make ample profit upon those rates, 34 The inevitable conclusion is that if terminal rates were reasonable in 1892, less than terminal rates are reasonable today, in view of the fact that the Great Northern Railway Company and the Northern Pacific Railway Company have reached their full capacities as single track railways and have more freight offered than they can haul, and also in view of the fact that the net earnings have greatly increased and that now there is an almost unlimited surplus on hand, and the conditions are much better now than in 1892 when Mr. Hill made his statements and promises. The fact that counsel for the Great Northern Railway Company say that they discard as worthless the statements made by men relating to transactions that happened fifteen years ago, does not warrant this Commission in discarding that evidence. Mr. Hill has not denied those statements, and those statements are corroborated by the newspaper re¬ ports printed at the time, and the testimony of those same 1 witnesses taken in 1896. Counsel to the contrary, notwithstanding, this record must be taken as showing that Mr. Hill did make the prom¬ ises that he is alleged to .have made and did say to the people of Spokane that he was building a road whereon he could transport freight cheaper than on any other road, and that he could afford to haul freight cheaper than other roads could afford to haul it. This promise seemed so good to the people of Spokane that it would he extremely strange if they ever forget it. Mr. Hill (among other things) said: 35 uAs far as we have gone we have undertaken and have succeeded in building a radroad that is capable of doing more business than any transcontinental road that has been or will be built hereafter. * * * * It will take to pay our interest and dividends and to operate our lines forty per cent less per mile than what it costs our neighbors. You can make a distributing point of Spokane and compete with, if not surpass, other distributing centers in this com¬ munity, and we should not feel that we are doing ourselves justice if we cannot bring goods here to sell at a competing point less than any city west cr south of here. This portion of the country seems to me to be paying 'tribute to California. For iS years its trade appears to me to have been directed from that state, That this circumstance has militated against the progress of this state goes without say¬ ing. You cannot make a great distributing point out of Spokane unless you have facilities equal to or better than those possessed by its competitors. We should feel that we are not doing what is for our own best interests, if we did not put every business man here in a position where he could meet the competition of any rival to the west or to the south. A vL* *1* *1* <|« We shall come here, however, feeling absolute confidence that we shall be able to carry your products to the markets for less money than any other railroad can afford to carry it; and I knew that no road will ever be built in the future that will be able to do the same zvork for less than we can do it. * * . * We are not coming here to show fear of water carriers. If we had been afraid of them we should not now be building our road to the Coast. * * As to our position in regard to TERMINAL RATES, and WHAT I SAID ABOUT YOU BEING ABLE TO COMPETE WITH ANY CITY WEST OR SOUTH. YOU COULD NOT DO IT IF YOU HAD TO PAY MORE FOR THE SERVICE THAN THEY HAVE TO PAY. Bear this in mind, that as long as there is a city and as long as our railroad is located on the ground, you will be nearer to us than any one else. * * * The people iiave an exaggerated idea about the cheap¬ ness of water carriage. WlIY, you might build a canal ten feet deep right along side of the great Northern Railway Company, from one end to the other and we would still do the business. You ap¬ pear surprised, but if you consider that with such a line as we are building, a train crew of five men can take along, at a 36 speed of fifteen miles per hour eight hundred tons of mer¬ chandise. To do that on a canal would require from three to five canal boats and three to five crews of men, and even then they would plod along at about a three mile gait. * * We must stand or fall with you. You cannot extend your business without extending ours and vice versa. This country cannot grow unless you are a distributing and collecting center. We are partners. * * In coming here, our road is your transliner, a very prominent transliner harbor, and we expect to carry as much tonnage as. though it were a harbor with twenty feet of water in it. We want to load our trains solid and run them through solid east and west. * * In reference to the future of Spokane, I have made some statements that would lead you to infer a good deal. I have made these statements with full knowledge of what the words I used mean. * * The days which are coming will enable you people, as I have said before, to compete with any city wrest or south of you. You are now the only city in Eastern Washington that can call itself a distributing point, the place where the products of that sec¬ tion are exchanged, and there is no reason why you should not always remain a distributing center, controling the busi¬ ness of Eastern Washington. * * No railroad west of the Mississippi or Missouri—and I was going to say Chicago, but there is one west of Chicago,—can or does carry more freight at lower rates of cost than we do, nor is there any west of the Mississippi that can at all approach us. We have tried to make the best and cheapest operated railroad it was possible to construct. A railroad is just like a brewery or a mill. A man may have a very large fine mill, but put another mill or make cloth or flour or iron cheaper, the time will come when he will have to close down. This is the reason why we claim we are justified in building the kind of a railroad we are building and expect to build." Mr. Durham testified (vol. i, p. 146) : We expected we should have at least terminal rates, and that we should be able to enter into full and fair competition with the Coast cities. That was very clearly and very thor¬ oughly the expectations of cur people after Mr. Hill had been here. Mr. Norman testified emphatically that terminal rates were promised (vol. 1, pages 171"2) : 37 MR. DUNN: Did Mr. Hill, at any time during the course of these negotiations ever promise you that he would make the same rates to Spokane that he would make to his terminal on the Sound; did he ever put that precise and plain proposition to you in the form of a promise or an assurancef MR. NORMAN: Many times, he did. * * . MR. DUNN: Outside of those two suggestions, the one about the rate upon nails and the other about this rate upon zvhich Spokane could compete, did he ever in any way make the assurance to you that Spokane should receive the same rates as his terminals upon the Soundf MR. NORMAN: He reiterated that, sir, on many occasions; on many occasions. Mr. Doland testified (vol. i, pages 182, 189) : * Mr. Hill said he didn't promise to give us terminal rates, but relative rates. * * / asked him this: "When you get to the coast will you give spokane terminal rates ?" He said, "I will give Spokane terminal rates or better/' * * * • Q. (