REMARKS AND OBSERVATIONS ON THE CONSTITUTION OF THE CANADAS, CIVIL AND ECCLESIASTICAL; WITH A VIEW TO ITS AMENDMENT: INCLUDING SUGGESTIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS NOT BEFORE PUBLISHED. BY A LAYMAN OF THE CHURCH OF SCOTLAND. TO WHICH IS ADDED, AN APPENDIX, CONTAINING SEVERAL INTERESTING AND IMPORTANT PAPERS. *7 1 - . -fiim 2. i 1 y C ' t * W • • MONTREAL: PRINTED BY JAMES STARKE & CO. 1 & 38 . PREFACE. The writer of this pamphlet has, for several reasons, deemed it proper to withhold his name from the public ; but many, with whom he is personally acquainted, will, on perusal, readily ascribe it to him. Only a small number of copies have been printed, intended for distri- bution among some public characters and others, upon whose opinions and decisions the settlement of Canadian affairs may be considered chiefly to depend. In giving the substance of, or quoting from, different authorities, great care has been taken to refer to them so particularly that any person, who chooses to take the trouble, may be satisfied whether or not anything be advanced inconsistent with such authorities. In every particular that is of much importance, the writer considers himself borne out by the writings, Acts of Parliament, &c. to which references are made ; and his name, no more than that of any other private individual, could confer very little additional authenticity, beyond the narrow circle of his own acquaintance. He hopes that the different topics, briefly noticed or treated of, in this production, may not in future be discussed in that angry tone and virulent style, sometimes too prevalent in many newspapers and other publications. With this view he has, as much as possible, abstained from using opprobrious terms and acrimonious expressions, in speaking of those who do not coincide in his opinions ; being wrell convinced that a good cause is frequently much injured by intemperate language and violent contro- versy. 11 PREFACE. In the pamphlet there occurs a repetition of some arguments or facts that appear also in the Appendix, No. V. That long article was occasioned by debates of the Legislature of Upper Canada, in 1835 ; the other, being written three years after, and touching in several parts on the same or similar topics, in consequence of subsequent occur- rences and proceedings, some repetitions were unavoidable. However, it is believed they will not occasion any objections nor prove tiresome to the reader. The speech of the Solicitor General, given in the Appendix, No. 6, does not appear to be the same version referred to by Mr Cartwright and Mr Manahan, in the explanatory letter and certificate that follow it. The writer has not seen the paper called the “ Constitution,” spoken of by Mr Cartwright, but he has read a longer and more detailed, though not exactly contradictory, report of the speech in the Bathurst Courier, of 3 d March , 1837. It is to that version which he more particularly alludes in what is said in page 51. It contains some more irritating expressions and remarks applied to the Scottish nation, which it would serve no good purpose to republish. The names of two other ministers of their Church (besides one mentioned in the Appendix) are also introduced, in no very complimentary style. In consequence, one of them published in the newspapers, a very spirited letter on the subject, addressed to the Solicitor General. Montreal, Lower Canada, 1 31s< October , 1838. ) CONTENTS, OR REFERENCES TO THE MATTERS THAT APPEAR OF THE MOST IMPORTANCE. Object of the publication, Reasons, comprehending proceedings at different times, that are supposed at last to have led to the late Insurrection Division of the Province Remarks on the Ecclesiastical part of the constitutional Act Reports of the Commissioners of Enquiry Attempt to unite the Canadas, in Exertions of the Roman Catholic Clergy to restrain their flocks Sup- posed views of the Insurgents Injudicious conduct of the British Government by imitating too closely the Constitution of England The House of Assembly have fallen into the same mistake Union of the Canadas recommended ; and the use of the English Language in written legislative proceedings. — Suggestions for quieting the Religious fears of Roman Catholics No progress yet made in their conversion Conditions in favour of their Religion, in the Treaty that ceded Canada to Great Britain, 24 Difficulties greater now than in 1822, in Uniting the Canadas Some notice of discontents that have occurred in both Provinces, and of the conduct of their inhabitants, previously to and during the last war, which commenced in 1812, 42 Further observations on our Constitutional Act, and on various Provincial Acts ; in so far as they relate to Ecclesiastical matters and to Marriages, Lands reserved for the Support of a Protestant Clergy, &c. — The Act of Union between England and Scotland. — The Voluntary System. The Canon Law of England, 48 Remarks on some writings of Dr Strachan, Archdeacon of York; and on the erection and endowment of Rectories in Upper Canada, &c. . 61 Mistake of some writers who support the claims and rights of the Scottish Church in the Colonies. — Conclusion, 75 1 Pastoral Letter of the Roman Catholic Bishop of Montreal, injoining loyalty and obedience to his flock of Quebec into Upper and Lower Canada, 6 1822. — Licentiousness of the Press, 18 APPENDIX. 77 ZJ lv CONTENTS. Pttje II — Declaration of the views and motives of the Loyal Canadian Asso- ciation of Montreal, 81 III — Loyal behaviour of the Canadians generally, in 1775-76; and in the war of 1812, with the United States: also notice of the good con- duct of the Inhabitants of Jersey and Guernsey, at different times, . 85 IV — Mr Hagerman’s speech, in the House of Assembly of U. Canada, on the 4th March, 1835 ; in support of the exclusive claims of the English Church, 33 V — Arguments against the claims set up by Mr Hagerman on behalf of the English Church, in the Colonies, . 102 VI — Speech of Mr Hagerman on the same subject, 9th February, 1837, 117 VII. — Message sent to the Legislative Council and House of Assembly of both the Canadas, in January, 1832, regarding the Clergy Reserves, 122 VIII — Instructions from the Colonial Secretary, in 1825, to the Lieut. Governor of U. Canada, directing him to erect and endow Parsonages or Rectories, in every Township within that Province, 123 errata. Page 49, line 3, after Canada , add in favour of the Church stand as follows of Scotland ; the sentence will then The only movement, that I am aware of, by the Legislature of tt™™,. n , . the Church of Scotland (and that was by the Assembly alone l Canada ’ ™ favour of which is introduced into the evidence of Mr J. C Grant befor 10U , t0 the Kmg '’ in l824 ’ House of Commons, on the 17th June, 1828. ’ * ** Canada C °™*tee of the Page 95, line 8 from foot— for confirming read conforming . Page 96, line 8 from foot— for destitute read desolate. REMARKS, OBSERVATIONS, &c. After the inhabitants of the Canadas, generally, had main- tained their allegiance to the Crown of Great Britain, during the invasion by the revolted Colonies in 1775 ; and again so nobly defended the country during the war with the United States, that began in 1812 ; it has occasioned great surprise and excited indignation, that they should, in 1837 , have raised the standard of rebellion, without any real grievance or oppression to complain of; and at a time when they could have no reason- able hope of success, the United Kingdom being at peace with all the world. My object, therefore, in taking up the pen, is to endeavour to account for the insurrection, or to point out some of the causes that appear to have led to this deplorable and extraor- dinary state of public affairs: to make some remarks on the remedies proposed from different quarters, particularly when they appear inadequate to the end proposed : and, lastly, to recommend or suggest, as occasions offer, such remedies and healing measures as appear most just and efficacious for remov- ing all reasonable complaints, and restoring peace, contentment, and general loyalty throughout both Provinces. I am well aware of my inability to do justice to this important subject, from want of the requisite education and knowledge of public affairs ; also, from not having the necessary access to authorities and public documents which it would be desirable to consult ; 6 so, in some cases I must trust to memory and to public noto- riety, in matters of recent occurrence. Several causes have no doubt operated in originating and in- creasing the strong party feeling which at last produced an insurrection in the District of Montreal. Sir Charles Grey, in the minute added to the General Report of the Commissioners of Enquiry, at page 65, speaks of “ the state of repulsion and antipathy towards each other (no gentler terms will convey the truth) in which, as far as all questions of internal policy are concerned, the two parties exist.” And, at foot of the same page, he says, “there are pretensions on either side which must be repressed.” The chief causes that have produced this unfortunate hostile feeling, are, the difference in language and religion of the two parties; and in their customs and manners, which have pre- vented them from coalescing and forming, as it were, one so- ciety in the cities, towns, and villages ; to which may be added, the injudicious and mistaken policy of the Provincial, and like- wise the British Government, at different periods. The inju- rious effects of lods et ventes, by operating as a heavy tax on industry and improvements; and the many disastrous conse- quences to commerce, arising from secret and general mortgages, have also occasioned serious and just complaints by emigrants from Great Britain and Ireland, or their descendants. Many of these, with other complaints from both parties, have been ably investigated by the Royal Commissioners of Enquiry; and, as their Reports have been published, it would be superfluous and presumptuous in one, who has not made the law his study, to attempt a revision of their labours. But this will not prevent me from freely stating my opinion on any topic within my com- petence, though it may differ from what has been expressed by them or others. ^ When the Provincial Parliament of this Province first met in December 1792, both Houses were occupied for some time in framing rules and regulations for their proceedings. In the House of Assembly a question arose which occasioned warm debates and tried the strength of the two parties. The French Canadians, as they are now usually called, argued that the text / of the Acts to be passed (la langue statuante) or the enacting language , should be French , which they had been accustomed to in public proceedings, and which was the only language they understood : those of British and Irish origin or descent, on the contrary, maintained that it ought to be English. After much discussion, a compromise was spoken of among some of the leading members ; namely, that the text of criminal laws should be English , the English Criminal Law having been previously introduced into the Province ; but the text of all other laws should be French. The Lieutenant Governor, General Clarke, who knew what was going on, but could not with pro- • priety interfere directly, had sent them a message, on the 8th January, 1793, containing information of instructions he had received : and, among other things, that he could not assent to any Bill, unless the preamble contained certain words, reciting the title of the British Act of Parliament, under the authority of which, the Provincial Legislature had met. On considering this part of the message, it opened the eyes of both parties ; for these words being all English, unaccompanied by a transla- tion, they found that the Governor would assent to the English version only : and that, if any change was to be made, it could not be effected by their Resolutions, but only by an Act of the whole Legislature.® One circumstance may probably have caused some excitement among the French members on this occasion. The Governor had, unnecessarily and injudiciously, given English names to the greater part of the counties into which the Province was divided. Some of the names were dif- ficult of pronunciation to the inhabitants, and one (Warwick) contains a letter not to be found in the French alphabet. Most of these names have since been changed, and several of the counties subdivided, by a late Provincial Act passed in 18*29. At the same time that General Clarke was giving English names to many counties, with the view, as may be presumed, of a Some of the arguments used on this occasion appear in the Quebec Maga- zine for January and February, 1 793. This publication is now very scarce : it was not continued after 1794. For other arguments in favour of the French text, it refers to the Quebec Gazette of the 31st January and 7th February, 1793. 8 gradually anglifying the inhabitants, a mistaken policy of quite an opposite tendency existed in regard to the militia, at least in the cities of Quebec and Montreal. They were divided into British and Canadian militia, and the privates were obliged to enroll themselves accordingly. This distinction was in use when the Province was invaded, in 1775, by the revolted Colonies, 11 and in full force when the writer arrived at Quebec in 1790: for, he well remembers to have heard mention made of some young Canadian lads who, not long before that date, had enrolled their names with British officers, which excited the jealousy of • the Canadian officers, who complained and had them fined (10s. each, it is believed) for disobedience of orders. This was con- sidered bad policy, as tending to alienate the affections of these young men from the British Government. The Militia was governed, in 1790, by Ordinances of the Governor and Coun- cil : however, since the Provincial Parliament was constituted, Acts have frequently been passed to regulate the Militia, but they have either been temporary or, if permanent, soon amended of the “ ° f S,nith ’ 8 HiSt0r - V 0f Canada > a " account is given British fr r r * a " ° ffiCer ° f the ^ arrison - He cften speaks of th “ C ; na ian (SOmetimUS En e" ish and Fre,loh J Militia: the former was he official distinction, as appears from the following statement of the force of the garrison, on the first of December, 1775. 70 Royal Fusileers, 230 Royal Emigrants, 22 of the Artillery, Fireworkers, &c. 330 British Militia, 543 Canadians, 400 Seamen, 50 Masters and Mates of Vessels, 35 Marines, 120 Artificers. 1800 men bearinjr arms The number of souls within the wails computed at five thousand. In the Journal of the House of AsspmMxr . ^ 25th November, 1793, there is an official retm rf 1 M'l "• 1>arIiament > traction is also observed. The recapitulation of r ° ltla ’ where the dis - all grades, absentees, infirm and exempted, amounts to^fi 045 “ eludin & Tne recapitulation of British Militia, with the ’° 45, Wlt l 8617 Fuslls - mention of Fusils. ’ ^ Same det ^> » 1401, and no or repealed and new enactments made, apparently by way of experiment. The invidious distinction of British and Canadian Militia continued until about 1802 or 1803, when it was abolished, in name at least, though in practice there were bat- talions kept up, the officers of which were generally natives of Britain and Ireland, or their descendants : and their men con- sisted of all those who were not French Canadians, and who were scattered over the whole town and suburbs. The acts of 1803 and 1812 also provided that the militia, in general, should be mustered or drilled on a Sunday or holiday ; but that the Protestant battalions might be assembled on any other days. — This religious distinction and mistaken policy was, however, finally abandoned in practice as well as in name^ in 1828: and since then every captain of the sedentary militia has a particu- lar section or district assigned to him, and the whole of the militia-men residing therein compose his company. These de- tails will not be thought too minute or unnecessary, when the importance of the subject is considered : and, it is still requisite for my purpose that the Militia Act of 1830 should be noticed, which, as usual, was only for a limited time. It required a cer- tain qualification of fixed property in the officers or their fathers, according to their respective ranks; and, by a retro- spective operation, revoked the commissions then held by offi- cers not so qualified. Something of the kind, but not to the same extent, was introduced by a temporary act also during the government of the Duke of Richmond, to which he assented with great reluctance, as declared in his speech on proroguing the Legislature, the 24th April, 1819. The Act of 1830 de- prived many officers of their commissions, at least in Quebec and Montreal ; and now, within the last few months, since the insurrection broke out, the government has found it advisable and necessary to violate its own Statute Law, if I am not mis- taken or misinformed, by employing officers not qualified ac- cording to law. A sort of supplementary Act was passed soon afterwards, to constitute courts for enquiring into or trying the qualifications of officers. Thus the governor assented to the complete restraint of his discretionary power and prerogative, 10 in appointing or retaining militia officers, however long and meritorious might have been their services. It was about the same time that an act was passed, requiring a certain qualification in property for Justices of the Peace, which many persons thought should still be left to the discretion’ of the Governor as heretofore. More especially as no qualifi- cation is required in this Province for the legislators who frame those laws, which the former only assist in administering Another ill-judged and unfortunate measure, adopted" by the British Ministry, was the surrender to the House of Assembly of the Crown duties, as they were called, by an Act of the Imperial Parliament (1 and 2 Will. IV. c. 23) without any condition or security that a proper civil list would be provided • but trusting entirely to the liberal professions and sense of jus- ice of the Provincial Legislature, in which the Ministry have been grevmusly disappointed. This act may be considered as the immediate cause of the judges and other civil officers of government being so long deprived of their salaries, without any complaints against them in the discharge of their duties- ■ 1 ™“’ ' '» The Governor and Legislative Council have frequently given to he popular branch (contrary their bet ’ r may be supposed): witness several temporary acts that have been passed, exclusive of those called Money Bills, which “he Council may reject but cannot amend. This system of tem- porary acts commenced, I think, about eighteen or twentv ago, in the House of Assembly; and fo/some Z e a new act was passed, separately, for each act that f ? ’ continued; but, during the few last years it }, , * t0 be .0 introduce a Bill “into tlm, H^w « W ,7*°,”^ passed into a law, « to continue for a limited time " i therein mentioned;” which, perhaps, included six eio-ht acts. It would seem as if this were considered - g °* m ° re suggested by experience; but it is not easy to i m ! " npr0Vement better calculated to produce confusion ^ S " le a s J stem Provincial Statute Book ”" d » our The Legislative Council appear have acted iuconAtently, li on one occasion, at least, if not more ; for, as I understand, they refused to pass a Supply Bill in the spring of 1824 and again in 1826, though they passed one similar to these two, if not exactly the same, in 1825. But, as their proceedings and debates are not regularly reported in the newspapers, their con- duct is not so generally and publicly known, and does not at- tract equal attention with that of the other House. Some of the leading members of the House of Assembly, with Speaker Papineau at their head, whenever the opportunity occurred of the House being in Committee, have been in the habit, for several years past, of censuring and declaiming against all the governors of the Province, generally, ever since its cession to Great Britain ; and more particularly against Sir James Henry Craig and Lord Dalhousie, as having acted in an arbitrary and tyrannical manner. It is foreign to my purpose to discuss whether or not they acted judiciously in every in- stance ; but it is proper to assert, contrary to these harangues, that neither of them acted illegally : for, when Sir James im- prisoned several persons, the habeas corpus act was suspended, and under a warrant signed by three Executive Councillors, any suspected person might be arrested and kept in prison, without trial, during the continuance of the temporary suspension. As to the dismission of militia officers by Lord Dalhousie, for which he has been so much censured, it was merely an exercise of the well known and undoubted prerogative of every Governor. It is very doubtful whether this Province has ever had any Go- vernor superior to these distinguished men ; and the chief rea- son for mentioning their names, is in order to notice the quite opposite policy of their immediate successors, in conformity, no doubt, with instructions from the Colonial Office : this could not well be considered otherwise by the public, than as an im- plied censure on their conduct, and does not appear to have had any beneficial or lasting effect on the feelings of those that were expected to be thereby conciliated. On the contrary, it seems to have encouraged the popular branch of the Legisla- ture to increase its demands to such a length, that they were at last refused ; then the majority went so far as to deny the para- mount authority and power of the Imperial Parliament ; not- J 12 withstanding that every Bill which passes through their House acknowledges, in the preamble, that they are “constituted and assembled by virtue of and under the authority of,” an Act of the British Parliament. I have adverted above to Acts of the Executive Government and the proceedings of the Legislative Council, m order to shew my reasons for believing that there has been sometimes mistaken policy in their conduct also; and shall m the sequel, have occasion to return to the same topic. The faults and backshdmgs of the Assembly are better known to the public; particularly of late, since the publication of the Reports of the Royal Commissioners of Enquiry; also from the able pamphlet published last winter, and ascribed to their Secretary, Mr. Elliott. The pamphlet is not at present in my possession, but, if my memory be correct, it contains some ani- madversions on the Assembly for not proceeding on the ques- mn of the Clergy Reserves, as recommended by message from he Governor. It is very probable, as has often happened that the message was not treated with proper decorum and respect • but, as these Reserves are for the maintenance of “a Protestant Clergy, only, and a great majority of the members are Roman Cathohcs, it could scarcely be expected that they would dispose of the question m a satisfactory manner. It may rather J ? posed, if we could know their thoughts, that they were not sorry to observe such difference of opinion, on this subject h t J the two Protestant Churches of Great Britl T H member that our House of Assembly in the,’ 1 ^ J®* re ' grievances, have ever complained of the I 1 1,1301 1StS ° f Protestant Clergy as such fth^h * (No 18 ) annexed to a petition from individuals to 1?“ and laid before the Special Committee of the House of r^’ mons in 1828 , there is a complaint of waste lands bl T m large portions or reserved by the Crown h ^ £ rantec * Clergy Reserves, “ to the grievous ^burZ If t h "° menti ° n ° f the hindrance of new settlers, and the obstruction of tb increase and prosperity of the Province.” f gC ' leral These Reports of the Commissioners onrl , their Secretary, relate chiefly to recent events • bu/T^ ° f understand more fully the state of the case,' it is neeessf^ n f 13 refer to the proceedings of former years. The debates in the Assembly, at the first meeting of the Provincial Parliament, have already been noticed. It was several years afterwards, in February, 1810, that the Assembly made a voluntary offer to provide for the expenses of .the Civil Government, in the course of that Session. The Governor, Sir James Henry Craig, at the same time that he consented to transmit their addresses to the Imperial Legislature, making the offer, must have foreseen something of what has since occurred in the conduct of the House of Assembly. For he took occasion to remark, that there was no precedent of the House of Commons having of- fered a grant of money to His Majesty, when no application had been previously made to them ; and, also, that their offer was inefficient, without the assent and concurrence of the Legislative Council, and it does not appear that an application was ever made to them for their assent. It was at that time suspected and foreseen by others, besides Sir James, that the House had other objects in view than merely to relieve the Mother Country from the burthen of the Civil Government of the Province. The next proceeding of much moment, was the impeachment of the two chief Justices : the articles of impeach- ment . , or heads of accusation (opinions were not agreed which was the most proper term) were submitted to the Prince Regent in Council. The decision, to the best of my recollection, was in substance, that some of the accusations were frivolous, the whole unsupported by evidence, and as to the most serious charge (against the Chief Justice of the Province for High Treason, by giving bad advice to the Governor) it could never be sustained; because, if the Governor acted improperly or illegally, he himself must answer for it, not his Councillors. This decision was not pleasing to the Assembly, and their pro- ceedings thereupon induced the Administrator of the Govern- ment, Sir Gordon Drummond, to dissolve the Parliament in the Spring of 1816. Not long afterwards, the late Judge Foucher was also impeached; but as this is particularly noticed in the first Report of the Royal Commissioners, it is sufficient merely to mention it. The offer made in 1810, to provide for payment of the Civil H 14 List, was no more heard of until January, 1818, when Sir John Cope Sherbrooke, in his speech at the commencement of the Session, informed the Legislature that it was accepted; and from that time the financial difficulties of the Province may be said to have commenced. A few years after, when the Assem- bly found they could not appropriate the revenue, without the concurrence of the Council, they allowed certain temporary acts, some of them imposing duties on imports at Quebec, to expire : and, as Upper Canada was entitled to a share of these duties, loud complaints were of course made from thence. The Imperial Parliament in consequence, made certain enactments in the Canada Trade Act (3 Geo. IV. cap. 119) to revive these duties and also to restrain the Legislature of Lower Canada from exercising such a control in future. There was, however, no interference where Upper Canada was not interested ; and the consequence has been, that during two years at different periods, no tolls could be collected from the Lachine Canal. We must not omit a remarkable occurrence that took place in the spring of 1820. The Duke of Richmond died the pro- ceeding summer, and Sir Peregrine Maitland, Lieutenant Gov- ernor of Upper Canada, had received instructions to administer the Government and meet the Legislature of this Province, until the Duke’s successor should arrive. Accordingly, he ar- rived from York early in February, dissolved the existing Par- liament, and called a new one, to meet about the end of March or beginning of April. When the new House met, the Speaker was chosen and confirmed by Sir Peregrine, who made a speech to both Houses, as usual, and of course the business of legisla- tion was expected to proceed. But, when the Assembly returned to their own Chamber, they soon came to the resolu- tion, that they were incompetent to proceed to business The reason assigned was, that there was no return from the County of Gaspe, so that there were only forty-nine, whereas the Con- stitutional Act required not less than fifty members The dav fixed for the return from Gaspe had been extended, by a Pro- vincial Act, beyond the time allowed for the other parts of the Province; and whether the Governor acted legally or not in convening the Parliament before the day fixed for the return of 15 the Writ for that County, was never satisfactorily ascertained, as they had declared themselves incompetent for business ; though, if the Governor, or any of his officers, had done an ille- gal act, it was natural to expect that the popular branch would have made some exertions to prevent its recurrence. On the contrary, the fit of incompetency continued for twelve days or more, during which they could not, or would not, receive a message from the Council, but shut their door in the face of the messenger. Nobody can tell how long this fit might have con- tinued, had not the accounts of the demise of the King (which was known at its commencement) been officially received by Sir Peregrine: which, as the law then stood, occasioned an im- mediate dissolution of the Provincial Parliament. We may have heard of Courts of Law, when their jurisdiction was ob- jected to, admitting their incompetency to decide the case; but the novelty of a popular Assembly voluntarily stultifying itself, created very great surprise, and attracted much public attention. The House of Assembly, however, does not always act consis- tently nor follow precedents set by former Houses : for, at the general election in 1827, one member was returned for two places, and another died before the meeting of the Legislature, so that when the House met in November, it consisted of forty- eight members only ; and, moreover, the Governor refused to confirm their choice of a Speaker. Yet, strange to tell, they insisted that they were competent and right or wrong, would proceed to the despatch of business : until the Governor sent to the lodging of the Speaker elect, a proclamation proroguing the Provincial Parliament. The later proceedings of our Legislature are already publicly known, as formerly mentioned ; I shall, therefore, proceed to make some observations on our Constitutional Act, and other matters connected therewith. If we can trace our present evils to their source, it will be a great step towards applying the necessary and proper remedies. In the first place, the division of the Province of Quebec was very injudicious, though the end thereby proposed was very necessary and desirable. Those who suppported and those who opposed this measure, had the same objects in view. In the House of Commons (on the 8th April 1791) Mr Fox said “Of IG all the points of the bill, that which struck him the most for- cibly was, the division of the Province of Canada. It had been urged, that by such means we could separate the English and French inhabitants of the Province; that we could distinguish who were originally French, from those of English origin. ° But was this to be desired ? Was it not rather to be avoided ? Was it agreeable to general political expediency? The most desir- able circumstance was, that the French and English inhabitants of Canada should unite and coalesce, as it were into one body ; and that the different distinctions of the people might be extin- guished for ever, &c. Mr Pitt, in answer said, “ As to the division of the Province, it was in a great measure the funda- mental part of the bill ; and he had no scruple to declare, that lie considered it as the most material and essential part of it. He agreed with the right honorable gentleman in thinking it extremely desirable that the inhabitants of Canada should” be united, and led universally to prefer the English Constitution and the English Laws. Dividing the Province he considered to be the most likely means to effect his purpose,” &c &c The House in Committee, 11th May, “Mr Hussey objected to the division of the Province, stated in the bill, a measure Much he considered as not suited to the purposes of legislation. He thought they all would become British subjects sooner if he division did not take place. He considered it, inste d of «ndm, to heal their differences, as calculated to preserve ,n ( inflame their animosities. Commerce was the chief point of lew m which Quebec was of importance to this con, Hr, It behoved the House, therefore, p rovid e for that most essentU object, the security of property. We ought to introduce the English commercial law, and leave the House of Assembly m mate such alterations as they should find rendered expedient by their own peculiar circumstances.” ^ Mr Pitt again defended the division of th* P • Quebec. Mr Burke did no, disappro Ld Sh m ,d and Mr Fox spoke against it • Sir L i o , • L d Sheffield .0 prevent it, which » „ega«^T“ * It does not appear, no, have I been able to discover that any petition or application had ever been made to Palme" 17 for the division of the Province of Quebec. Mr Lymburner, agent of the petitioners of this country for the Constitution, did not know of such an intention, until he saw the bill, when he raised his voice against several parts of it, more especially the division of the Province, which he characterized as a violent measure . He was the bearer of a petition numerously signed by the old and new subjects (which was then the usual distinc- tion), inhabitants of what is now Lower Canada. It is dated at Quebec, the 24th November, 1784, in English and French, and was printed in London, 1791, with the subscribers’ names to both versions. He was allowed to read a paper at the bar of the House of Commons, on the 23d March, 1791 ; and from his knowledge of the country, was enabled to state reasons against it, apparently unknown to the House and which were overlooked in the subsequent debates. It is well worthy of perusal at this period, and does great credit to the writer’s judgment and foresight; a few short extracts, however, must suffice. “ I cannot conceive what reasons have induced the proposition of this violent measure. I have not heard that it has been the object of general wish of the loyalists who are settled in the upper parts of the Province ; and I can assure this Honorable House, that it has not been desired by the in- habitants of the lower parts of the country. I am confident this Honorable House will perceive the danger of adopting a plan which may have the most fatal consequences, while the apparent advantages which it offers to view are few, and of no great moment.” In another place he states that articles for the upper parts of the country as well as exports from thence, must be landed and stored at Quebec or Montreal, and in pass- ing through, must “ become subject to the laws, regulations, duties, and taxes, which may be imposed by the legislature of the lower country.” He then speaks of the revenue that will probably be raised by duties in this way for public purposes, and of the discontent that may be expected among the people inhabiting the Upper Government, when the revenue thus raised is not under their control or for their benefit ; he then adds, it may be said with prophetic accuracy, what is now nearly, if not actually the state of the case. “ It is impossible, Sir, if the 18 Province of Quebec is divided, for the wisdom of man to lav down a plan for these objects that will not afford matter of dis- pute, and create animosities between the governments of the two Provinces, which in a few years, may lead to the most serious consequences. This would be sowing the seeds of dissension and quarrels, which however easy it may be to raise, will be found extremely difficult to appease.” It appears, however, that Mr Pitt and the other Ministers of the Crown had previously formed the plan of dividing the Province of Quebec; and Mr Lymburner’s remonstrance,” as it may be termed, with the opinions afterwards expressed against it, in the debates that ensued, had no effect in changing that part of the bill. At present, I have not access to the proceed- ings m the House of Lords; but, if my memory does not de- "T™’ t l le,r Lordshl P s P assed it without amendment and with little, if any, debate. In the next place, I come to say something of what may be termed the Ecclesiastical part of our Constitution, and the man . ner m which it has been administered, which has no doubt had statT^f rese 6 P m bnnging i b ° Ut tHe FeSent Unfortuna te state of these Provinces, particularly in Lower Canada. The subject would require a more able hand to treat it according to its importance; but, though sensible of my incapacity to do it justice it must not, on that account, be passed over in silence. The Royal Commissioners of Enquiry have i matter incidentally only, though it seems they intended"! make a separate Report thereon, including other matters: for, at the beginning of their General Report, they say “ On the Clergy Reserves, and on some important petitions recently received on other matters, we shall submit our opinions hereafter ” Rm when the statement of Sir Georo- e Ginns M f \ i e 1 Vx ^ hor lftfifi \ .1 , , ™ t^ipps, (dated 15th Decem- ber, 1836,) was added to that Rcnm-t Si,, r-i, , ^ taken his departure for England; and Lord Gosford remained met since, to^nfoly Report’ ‘t “° ^ haTO not n • • J , report. However, one or all of Commissioners may have given their individual „pi„i„ n Z u' Colonial Secretary; and it is very probable that ? , 1- done so, as he seems duly impressed with ,h. 19 and difficulty of the subject, which will appear from his state- ments annexed to different Reports. In the conclusion of that appended to the third Report, he says: — “ From this descrip- tion of the prospect I have made one exception, it is religion, an element which, in its volatile state, is beyond the control of governments, which is not at present in a state of greater action than is salutary, and possibly may not be inflamed, but which, if ever it should become so, whether by the oppression of the Protestant or the Catholic Church, will be the signal for gene- ral confusion.” The following quotations are from the conclu- sion of the minute of Sir Charles, annexed to the General Report : “ It is not without a due sense of the grave and mo- mentous considerations which are connected with the task of altering a Constitution, that I say this ; but if the Act of the 31 Geo. III. c. 31, be divested of its ecclesiastical provisions, it will be perceived that it is not of a very difficult or complex structure, yet might serve as a precedent for what would be now wanted.” He then goes on to propose, “ that Lower Canada be divided into several subordinate Legislatures, with one gene- ral and controlling one,” &c. &c. After having mentioned dif- ferent conflicting claims set up and urged by the French Canadians and by the British, he adds, what is very evident, “ There are pretensions on either side which must be repressed.” In a note added to this minute, Sir Charles says, “ he had pre- pared notes on different points, that required only to be copied;” one point is, “ institutions for religion and education.” The whole of these notes, if published, could not fail to be useful and very interesting, at this particular juncture. These subor- dinate legislatures with a general one to control them, could not be considered an efficient remedy for the dissensions that have so long distracted the Province, as will probably be mani- fest on a little reflection. One of the pretensions that requires to be repressed, not particularly noticed by Sir Charles, and which is coeval with our Constitutional Act, or rather was re- vived about that time, is, the assertion brought forward as an axiom not to be controverted, that, the Church of England is the Established Church in all the British dominions , Scotland only excepted . The Legislatures of the Canadas, particularly that •20 of Upper Canada, appear generally, with but few exceptions, to have acted on this untenable assumption, which will be noticed more particularly afterwards. At first it was not pub- licly advanced, but was mentioned incidentally only, as occasions occurred ; and, during the first twelve or fourteen years of my residence in this Province, from 1790 until about 1803 or 1804, I do not remember to have heard the term Established Church used, as applicable to this country. The claim, however, has been boldly and frequently asserted of late years, in both Houses of the Legislature of Upper Canada, and also in dif- ferent publications there. The disagreements and difficulties between the House of Assembly and the other two branches of the Legislature of Lower Canada, seem to have increased and taken a more se- rious and decided turn since the year 1820. It would appear by a speech of Mr Speaker Papineau, at his election that ummer, that he had then no grievances to complain of: and that he was fully sensible of the privileges and advantages k enjoyed by the Province, in consequence of its cession to Great Pritam. c The same Summer, it was announced, by an adver- tisement in the Official Gazette, that the Protestant Bishop and his Clergy, were erected into a corporation for managing Lt?bT rr VeS: " r 0dy ab ° Ut the Same time > I believe! In fr i0n f0r the advancement of Learning was constituted, though the act empowering the Governor to do so into The 8 1l g f P 180L ^ 18 ' 22 ’ a biU was brought into the House of Commons to reunite Upper and Lower Canada, which would probably have passed, had it not been opposed by Sir James Macintosh. When the details of the bill were known here, there was a decided anJ n- .. 1 • lion to the measure, b, what are called the A pub he meeting was called and numerously attended at Mon- treal, by whom a most respectable commit thirteen or perhaps fifteen members, to preple H f use all lawful means prevent the unL^ChT. , objections to the detads, but the strongest were again's, the a p- • Thl. Sp-.rli 1». been r.publi.k.d ft*. ft. ^ 21 proval of the Governor, which was required before their Bishop could legally place his curates or priests, and also that their language was excluded from the Legislature, not only in the written proceedings, but, after fifteen years, also in debates. — These, and several other objections, were allowed to be well founded by Mr Wilmot Horton, in his evidence before the Canada Committee in 1828. When the Legislature met next winter, the Governor, in consequence of instructions he had received, recommended the consideration of the subject to both Houses. The members, generally, had previously made up their minds; and, in the Council six voted for and eight against the Union, as published in the newspapers at the time ; for their journal does not show the majority, though the names of the minority appear to their reasons of dissent. In the As- sembly it was voted down, I believe, without much debate, there being thirty-one against, and only three members in favour of it : the names of all appear in the Journal. It would perhaps have been more advisable not to object altogether to an Union, but only to such principles and details as appear objectionable ; and for each House to have stated the manner in which they would approve of its being carried into effect. In Upper Canada, both Houses took up the question, though not particu- larly recommended to them ; but, so far as my memory serves me, neither expressed itself very decisively either for or against the measure. Mr Papineau was one of the agents that carried petitions to London against the Union; and while he was there, a pamphlet was published in the form of a letter to the Earl of Liverpool by a member of Parliament. It related to the eccle- siastical and political affairs of the Province; and declaimed with much virulence against the Church of Rome ; the Church of Scotland also came in for a share of censure; and complaints were made of the countenance and support afforded to both in this country. The author is not yet certainly known, perhaps more than one had a hand in it ; but, if not written here, it is evident the materials were furnished from hence. It was not intended for circulation here ; Mr Papineau, however, sent out a copy, which was handed about and freely discussed in the newspapers. All these circumstances occurring together, or c u 22 following one another closely, tended, no doubt, to create jealousy, suspicion, and distrust in the minds of many people, where such feelings did not previously exist. Another fruitful source of much bad feeling and party spirit must not pass unnoticed. It is the national distinctions and other irritating topics introduced into newspapers, or speeches made at public meetings, and reported afterwards in the papers. This licentiousness of the press has no doubt done much mis- chief on both sides for many years past ; but more particularly at, and since the general election in 1827. The French Cana- dians, as they are called, have sometimes been mentioned as a conquered people, at other times represented as in general dis- loyal, &c. I have not regular files of newspapers to refer to, but any person residing in this country may have noticed it. However, I happen to have before me one number, dated 16th August, 1832, of the oldest and perhaps the most influential paper in this district, from which an extract follows, which may be reckoned a fair specimen of the publications alluded to.— The editor, after remarking on some very improper resolutions passed at a public meeting in a country village, concludes with the following threat : “ Let us no longer hear of our being- only one-tenth, by emigration alone, our population was in- creased, during the last six years, upwards of 23,000; the stream continues to flow towards us, and, despite of the party , we will continue to increase and multiply in the land, settle the soil, and introduce, in due course of time, our institutions, our lan- guage, and our laws.” It is easier to imagine than to express, what discontent and alarm such paragraphs must excite, when rendered into French, and widely circulated with editorial re- marks as has often been done, for the purpose of agitation.- The bad effects and injustice of such writings and national distmc ions are well set forth in an address, dated January, ef t Tk A "'I ° f L ° ngUeuil t0 the Governor-in- Chief. The following is the passage alluded to : « The fever- ish and disturbed state from which the excited parts of this district are recovering, is attributable, not only to the disloyal writings, speeches, and meetings, which have attracted public notice as the immediate causes thereof-but, in no small degree 2:3 to the virulence and irritating language used by miscalled loyal papers, and to the haughty and arrogant conduct of men, who, pretending to exclusive loyalty, abuse without measure all who are opposed to their narrow and selfish policy, thereby enter- taining national distinctions, (than which, nothing is more foreign, to the notion of the Canadian people,) purposely keep- ing alive political prejudices, and exciting to disaffection, a people whose loyal conduct has at different epochs received the praises of your Excellency’s predecessors, and of the Imperial Government.” 3 These different causes, particularly the attempt, (if not real at least apparent,) to undermine or curtail the religious liberty of the Canadians, produced, as might have been expected, fears, distrust, discontent and not unfrequently opposition to the plans of government. An English gentleman, since deceased, who was a Roman Catholic and had resided in the Province since 1780, disapproved very much of that part of the Union bill which he considered as an improper interference with the functions of the Roman Catholic Bishop : though he had no community of political feelings with L. J. Papineau and his ad- d See the Montreal Morning Courier of 26th January, 1838. It will not be considered out of place here, to give the opinion of John Neilson, Esq. regarding the French Canadians, which appears in his examination by the Commissioners of Enquiry, annexed to their first Report, page 61 : Q. 424 “ To what extent do you consider the French Canadians to be under the influence of the leaders, and to be an excitable people? I consider that they are quite excitable, but not for theories of government ; anything that will insult them, or affect them in their feelings and interests, will stir them up very readily. The mass of them are not very much under the influence of their leaders. The truth is, that the best of the French Canadians will take very little part in the public affairs of the community : those affairs are in the hands of lawyers, doctors, notaries, surveyors, small traders, tavern-keepers and mechanics : many of the most respectable habitans take no interest in political transactions.” Q. 425 “ Do you think that if there were some scheme to sever Canada from Great Britain, and it were discovered, the majority of the people would be prepared to assist in putting it down ? I am clearly of opinion that they would. If the question advert to anything in the shape of a plot or treasonable conspiracy, or to anything to be carried by violence, or connexion with a foreign power, I am persuaded the people would gladly see it defeated.” 124 herents: for he remarked, that it was like putting armb into the hands of these factious men. He was also sorry, when the Bishop of his Church was called to the Legislative Council, about eighteen or twenty years ago, I think; because, as he said, it would occupy too much of his time and attention, which ought to be entirely devoted to his episcopal duties. His suc- cessors have not attended the Council ; but whether they de- clined the honor, or that it was not offered to them, is unknown to me. In the journals, he is styled, “ Rev. J. O. Plessis, Bishop of the Roman Catholic Church of Quebec the Pro- testant Bishop is styled, “ Lord Bishop of Quebec a distinc- tinetion that could not be very flattering to the former, nor to the numerous members of his Church. The same causes mav likewise account for the leading men in the House of Assembly being long supported by their constituents, among whom are many intelligent, as well as conscientious men ; perhaps they may have been encouraged even by some of their clergymen ; but that cannot be easily ascertained, as they do not openly in- terfere in politics, except on some very urgent occasion. As soon, however, as it became evident that, under the specious name of Reform , these men aimed at revolution, denying the paramount authority of the British Parliament, and seeking to dismember the Canadas from the Empire, then it was, that the well disposed Canadian gentlemen, and the Catholic Clergy of the District of Montreal, (for many years the head quarters of agitation,) came forward to stem the torrent, and if possible, to restore peace and obedience to the laws. The Rev. John James Lartique, Catholic Bishop of Montreal, issued a pastoral letter, dated the 24th October, 1837, to be read in all the Churches of his Diocese. 6 This was of course done, and his views were generally seconded by the clergymen under him ; which, There can be no doubt, had a powerful effect in preventing the' "insur- rection from becoming general over the whole District. He describes in a strong and feeling manner, the horrors of civil war ; which, thank God, were only partially experienced, yet e Sec Appendix, No. I. 25 enough was realized on the banks of the Richelieu and at St. Eustache, to verify his description. It has just been stated that religious scruples and conscien- tious feelings must have had a large share in bringing about the present unfortunate state of affairs in this Province. It is not, however, to be inferred from this, that the leaders in the late insurrection were either religious fanatics or sober serious Chris- tians, attached to the services and worship of the respective churches to which their ancestors adhered ; though there can be no doubt that many of them, for several years before, had, by wearing the mask of religion, taken advantage ef the alarms on that score, which were felt by many of their more conscien- tious countrymen, to excite discontent and resistance to the government and laws. On the contrary, when they were about to break out into open rebellion, they treated their clergymen, and Bishop Lartique’s pastoral letter with contempt, and in several parishes many of them left the churches when their Priests began to read it. Indeed, they seemed disposed, had they not been timeously checked, to follow the example of the French Revolutionists of last century; and it has been stated, (but I have seen none of his papers for several years) that Mackenzie, the arch-rebel of Upper Canada, recently pub- lished part of the treasonable and blasphemous writings of Tom Paine. It has been stated and may be credited, that many of the country people, or habitans , were promised, as an inducement to take up arms, that la dime , or tithe payable to their Priests, would be abolished, as well as the rents due to the Seignieurs, without their having to give any indemnification to either. Robert Nelson, in his declaration, as President of the Provisional Government , promises a discharge for all arrearages due in virtue of any Seigniorial rights, real or supposed, as an allurement to all who shall bear arms, or otherwise assist in this contest for emancipation. Perhaps he declined speaking of the dues pay- able to the Priests, lest he might shock the religious prejudices, as he would say, of the farmers and others, whose assistance he hoped to obtain. This declaration, without date of time or place, it appears, was printed in Vermont, and intended to be 26 dated and circulated so soon as he got a footing in the Pro- vince : but, by some bad luck, it got into circulation about the first of March, 1838, before he had any hold of Canada. It is truly said, in a late provincial publication, that “an abundant source of error, as to all Colonial affairs is, too ser- vile a reference to the proceedings of the government in Eng- land, as a model, without bearing in mind the marked difference which exists between the society there and here,” &c. It may be attributed to this source, that the Protestant Bishop of Quebec was called to the Executive and Legislative Councils of both the Canadas, and as Executive Councillor, he is also, ex officio, a Judge in the Court of Appeals; he has likewise other offices assigned to him. I believe he has never taken his seat in either Council in Upper Canada; but that of course de- pended merely on his own pleasure. To the same source may, probably, also be traced the assent given in 1830, to the bill requiring a qualification for officers of militia ; which, as I am informed, is the uniform practice, if not the law, in England; perhaps also in Scotland and Ireland. On the other hand, the House of Assembly has laid claim to the absolute control of all the money raised in the Province, far beyond the claims and privileges of the House of Commons. Money bills originate in the Assembly, a privilege that has never been denied to it. They also claim the right to stop the supplies of money, as being one of the privileges of the British House of Commons. A privilege, however, which is seldom exercised ; and if it ever should, there can be no similarity between the effects there and in the Canadas. There, the practice is to settle and appro- priate by an Act of Parliament at the commencement of each reign, the amount of annual supply that may be required to carry on the civil government during that reign: but, depend- ing on an annual act for other grants that may be required for the public service. Thus, the privilege and right of the Com- mons is confined principally to withholding or curtailing the supplies hat may be asked, for keeping up or augmenting the army and navy; with the view entertained, perhaps, by the ministers of the Crown, of establishing an arbitrary govern- ment; or of carrying into effect ambitious schemes of foreign 27 conquests, which might prove injurious, in the highest degree, to the commerce and prosperity of the Empire. The case of the Canadas and other Colonies who pay their civil officers on- ly, but contribute nothing, directly, to their defence ; is so very different and has been so fully exemplified of late in this Pro- vince, that is sufficient merely to have mentioned it. Our Assembly have eagerly adopted and applied to them- selves an insufficient reason that has sometimes been given for this “ antient indisputable privilege and right of the House of Commons.” A privilege so ancient, that the record of its date and true reason of its first adoption, appear to be lost or un- certain. 66 The general reason given for this exclusive privilege of the House of Commons, is, that the supplies are raised upon the body of the people, and therefore it is proper that they alone should have the right of taxing themselves. This reason would be unanswerable, if the Commons taxed none but them- selves : but it is notorious, that a very large share of property is in the possession of the House of Lords ; that this property is equally taxable, and taxed, as the property of the Commons ; and therefore the Commons not being the sole persons taxed, this cannot be the reason of their having the sole right of raising and modelling the supply. The true reason, arising from the spirit of our constitution, seems to be this : the Lords being a permanent hereditary body, created at pleasure by the King, are supposed more liable to be influenced by the crown, and when once influenced to continue so, than the Commons, who are a temporary elective body, freely nominated by the people. It would, therefore, be extremely dangerous, to give them any power of framing new taxes for the subject : it is sufficient, that they have a power of rejecting, if they think the Commons too lavish or improvident in their grants.” f But the House of As- sembly of Lower Canada have carried their pretensions and claims much farther; for they seem to have expected that money bills passed by them, ought to be sanctioned by the other two branches of the Legislature, notwithstanding whatever conditions were tacked to them. This disposition was first pub- f Blaokstone Corns, vol. i. page 169. x •28 licly shown in the addresses of 1810, which, as already stated, Sir James Crahr did not fail to notice. © Having pointed out the principal causes of the discontent and difficulties that have existed for many years in this Province, and that have also occurred between the Upper and Lower Provinces, I shall now propose, what appears the best, if not the only remedies that can be applied. And first, as being the greatest, the Canadas ought to be re-united. But before speaking of the details, it will be proper to notice some other schemes that have been thought of, as remedies for the evils arising from their having been separated. The chief plan, is to annex Montreal and another portion of this Province to Upper Canada, so as to give it a port of entry and clearance for ves- sels from sea. This was first talked of ten years ago or more ; and many speeches and writings have since appeared in its fa- vour, especially in the Upper Province. But, in that case, the same details would be necessary, and the same difficulties must be overcome, as in uniting the two Provinces. And, after all, it would not prove a remedy to the existing difficulty regarding the public revenue. It is well known to every one acquainted with the commercial business of Montreal, that the chief part of the goods imported are opened there, and afterwards sold to merchants and shopkeepers there, and in other parts of that ex- tensive district; part also goes to the district of Three-Rivers, and occasionally to the city of Quebec, when any articles there, bear better prices than in Montreal : a great part of the imports there, also go to Upper Canada, for I believe not one half of the goods, liquors, and groceries consumed there are imported in separate packages and for account of the merchants residing in that Province; but, that they purchase their chief supplies from the importers at Montreal, and, such is now the facility of carnage by steamboats, that they sometimes make purchases in Quebec. It is thus evident that, if Upper Canada collected the duties levied at Montreal, the same difficulty of giving to each Province its just and equitable proportion, would & still exist: the only difference being, that Lower Canada would then have to apply for her share to Upper Canada In perusing the Reports of the Royal Commissioners of En- quiry, we are disappointed in net meeting with any decided opinion on this point ; though they seem rather to discourage than recommend the Union. In the Second Report, paragraph 17, they think the question ought not to be entertained, “ ex- cept with a very general prevalence of opinion in its favour in both Provinces.” On this it may be remarked, that there are many persons in its favour in both Provinces; and also not a few against it, especially in Lower Canada. But, as to the general opinion in either Province, it cannot easily be ascertained. — For, there is not perhaps one in five hundred, who is able and will also take the necessary trouble to form an opinion of his own ; though many will sign, without reading, a petition either for or against it, as the case may be, on the strength of some favourite name that precedes their own. The General Report of the Commissioners, (section VI, paragraphs 6, 7, 8, 9,) details the difficulties arising from the apportionment of duties, and from certain clauses of the Canada Trade Act, 3, Geo. IV., c. 119: they then express the “wish that each Province could be enabled to raise and regulate its own revenue but they have not heard any good suggestion, neither have they any of their own to offer, as a remedy for these evils ; therefore, “ the necessity of the present arrange- ment justifies its continuance,” &c. Sir Charles Grey added a minute to this Report, at the end of which, in a note, he speaks of certain notes that he had made on different subjects, one of which is the Union of the two Provinces ; but, if these notes were given into the Colonial Secretary, they have not been pub- lished, so that his opinions on these points are not known. — There is also a statement from Sir George Gipps added to the same Report in which, under the head of “ Changes in the Constitution of the Province,” there is a suggestion, that, in- stead of giving Montreal to Upper Canada, it might be declared “ an absolutely free trading port,” &c. &c. He has not ex- plained fully, and without explanation, it is not easy to compre- hend how his suggestion could be carried into effect, in such a manner as to afford a remedy for these increasing difficulties. — As to the wish that each Province may be enabled to raise and regulate its own revenue, a slight consideration of the trade car- 30 ried on between them, which centres chiefly in Montreal, and for timber, partly in Quebec, added to their geographical posi- tion, will clearly shew that it is utterly impracticable ; as was foretold, in the quotation already given from Mr Lymburner’s paper. It is proper to notice, more particularly, the opinion of Sir Charles Grey, expressed in the conclusion of his minute annexed to the General Report. He there refers to what the minister of the day, Mr Pitt, stated, in debate, the 11th May, 1791, as his reasons for dividing the Province of Quebec; and supposes that, if the division had not taken place, we would now see, “ the whole inhabitarits of the old Province of Quebec ar- ranged in two parties, of nearly equal numbers, and perilously opposed to each other.” He then goes on to explain his scheme of obviating the present difficulties and party differences; and suggests that our Constitutional Act, if “ divested of its ecclesiastical provisions,” might serve as a precedent for what would now be wanted. Then he proposes that Lower Canada may “be divided into several subordinate Legislatures, with one general and controlling one.” This plan is much too compli- cated and difficult of execution to answer well in practice. Sir G. Gipps, near the end of his remarks upon Sir C. Grey’s paper, hints also at a Federal Union of all British America; and it has been said that such a scheme was recommended by some persons in 1823, in place of the Incorporating Union of the two Provinces, the last of which was then much discussed. This scheme is also too complex; and both appear to be imita- tions of the Federal Union of the United. States, which does not seem to answer very well there, and would be still more un- suitable under a Monarchal Government. The Legislative Council of Upper Canada, in a Report on the state of the Pro- v, nee m February, 1838, speak of the Federal Union of British North America, and of the annexation of Montreal to their Province, with apparent complacency and approbation. But none of these schemes includes any feasible plan for remedving or removing the existing financial difficulties between the "two Provinces With respect to what might have been the present state of the Province of Quebec, had it remained entire, it is difficult to say, as it was not tried; but it is hardly possible it 01 could have been in a worse condition than are the Canadas just now, hoping soon to recover from the effects of an insurrection, that lately broke out in both, at a time when the Mother Coun- try had no foreign enemies. It must be borne in mind, as has been adverted to already, that several members of the House of Commons condemned the policy of dividing the Province, as did Mr Lymburner, who entered more into detail and predicted the difficulties relating to the public revenue, just as they have oc- curred and do still exist. Yet, such is the veneration for great and eminent men, like Mr Pitt, that even their mistakes and errors, from which none can claim exemption, are more dan- gerous than those of ordinary men, being frequently followed and held sacred ; which is the only way of accounting for the opinion of Sir C. Grey, abovementioned, contrary to what was so clearly foreseen and is now confirmed by experience. In proposing the re-union of the Canadas, I am well aware of the details and difficulties that must attend it, and the pru- dence and caution that must be observed in effecting it ; arising from the different origins, languages, manners, customs, laws and religions of the inhabitants ; yet it is the best, or rather the only means, of removing the existing evils and preventing their return. The mode adopted in uniting England and Scotland, may, with some variation, serve as a precedent. Let Commis- sioners be appointed by the British Government or by the par- tieSj as may be considered most advisable, on behalf of each Province ; with instructions to draw up articles of an Incorpor- ating (not a Federal) Union, or a constitution for the Provinces when united, on some general plan to be suggested to them ; in which neither Province is to have any advantage or preference real or apparent over the other ; unless the good of the whole Empire or the stipulations of the treaty of 1763 require it. The written daily proceedings of the United Legislature, to be en- tered on their journals, should be in English only ; but, a French translation of the most important parts might be printed at the public expense, after each session, for the use of mem- bers, &c. One English translator, if not more, would also be constantly required for some years, to render motions, reports of committees, &c. into that language. The acts should be printed 32 together in English only, being the original or text : and an au- thorized translation would be required, separately, for the use of those entitled to copies of the laws, and who do not under- stand English ; with some extra copies for sale at the same price as the original text. The debates and proceedings will be translated in the daily papers, as heretofore, for the infor- mation of their subscribers and the public. The provision in the Bill of 1822, requiring the debates to be also in English, at the end of fifteen years, was very ill-judged and could not easily have been enforced; in fact, it looked like an infringe- ment on the liberty of speech, and may be called over legislat- ing: for, if the practice be adopted of using only English, in the written ^ daily proceedings, it will f„U 0 „ lt ,„ as , „ mttcr of course, that the debates will also bo ill that language. There are other reasons in favour of using onl, English in° the daily proceedings; however, I shall notice only , he great savino of precious tune, a matter of considerable importance, especially nT"!”," pai4 “ at <0 ' 'heir atten- dance. Neither ought the electors to complain nor think it a I ' a T’ i “ 1 understand > 'here are many electors, in Ire- land, Scotland and Wales, who do not understand English, and C 721 T * Jet, in the debates and^ed- ., B I i |Krl '' Perhament, nothing is used but English ho gh perhaps no, always quite pure; and (he acts are pifmeS The F 7T ’T hout P™* any translations. P Curts of" Uw, in as being most competent to decide on wlnt 1 °*r ^ ^ proper to be made in that respect The I ° langeS ’ ,f require also to be amended and’ , ,!i " “ res P ects effected in that respect in this Pr • Ung ,na - v probably be '.thes place, ' he U ” i0 " own Provincial Legislature being suspended in “ °“ r the popular branch having committed ' S , C ° nsequence of gratifying to observe that « the W al (S ‘ T ^ * b Montreal,” in a declaration dated fir t of Fet “ AsS ° Clation of nist 01 February, 1838, ad- units, that many amendments and improvements are required in the laws of the Province, which the members will labour to ef- fect. 6 But, they are strenuously opposed to the Union of the Canadas: that opposition will doubtless be diminished or vanish altogether, should the following scheme and suggestions be adopted. The principal and most difficult part of which, is, to secure to the Roman Catholic Clergy their present support, even when lands in the country parishes come into the posses- sion of those who do not belong to their communion. In order to do this effectually and to avoid future mischief and difficul- ties, it will be requisite to appoint Commissioners in every county, or to ascertain by some means, what quantity of grain, &c. each farm in every parish, has contributed towards the sup- port of the Priest for the last three years, or any greater or less number that may be considered necessary. Then the lands to be made liable to the Priest of the parish for the average quan- tity of these years, to be paid annually in kind by the owner or occupier of the farm, no matter to what church he may belong. This is a more equitable and secure maintenance for the cler- gyman than tithes, or a certain proportion of each year’s crop, or than a fixed annual allowance in money, the value of which is so liable to fluctuation. Besides, a proportion of the yearly crop would only increase the present evil, by operating as a tax on industry, and bringing the inhabitants of the parish, especially those not of his church, into collision with the Priest. But, by the proposed plan, any person leasing or purchasing a farm could know exactly what he had to furnish yearly to the Priest and would make his bargain accordingly. Something similar to this was effected in Scotland about two hundred years ago ; and improvements have been made in the present century, by the Acts, 48 Geo. III. c. 138, and 50th year same reign, c. 84; so that the Clergy of Scotland are now enabled to receive their teinds in money, the grain being valued at the annual current price. It is no doubt chiefly owing to these judicious laws and ar- rangements, that we scarcely ever hear of complaints by Roman Catholics and other Dissenters in Scotland, against the payment s See Appendix, No. IT. 34 of teinds to the Scottish Clergy. On the contrary, there ap- pears to exist more cordiality there, between different denomi- nations of Christians, than in other parts of the United Kingdom. As an illustration and confirmation of this, I mav refer to Wellwood’s Life of Erskine, published in 1818. H e gives a letter to Dr Erskine, from the celebrated Mr Burke dated in June, 1779: and after making some observations on’ the state of public feeling at that period, which produced serious disturbances in Scotland, and the terrible riot in Lon- don ml 78 0 Sir H. M. Wellwood then speaks of the contrast the time he was writing, twenty years ago. The following passage is selected from his remarks on that head, page 311° Since that time the disabilities, which affected the Catholics with regard to their property, have been, in a great measure’ removed, without having created any opposition, or excited any discontent or alarm; and even the right of presenting to a church patrol t ° h m t ^ ,?°! Z** * Cath ° lic ' ' to what ls called the voluntary system, which has -d me for few ^ in ScotJ 4 . > ^ £ dered as a temporary clamour, and, by being properly met and treated, it may be soon expected to subside. It may d so be taken ,n,o consideration, in examining , he detail, of J tl]e p measure, whether some provision might not be made for he support of Roman Catholic Priests in tire unconceded parts »ishT s ”Jle Th ° tller ^ T CatMic ">«!>• . , ttle * Tlle want of something of that kind, appears to be one great reason which prevents them from leaving their native parishes and forming new settlements. ° It is not improbable that some of both clero-v and t two Protestant Churches of Great Britain wfl excl J ° f the .he whole of this p l an , a „ d insisl that «**'« oug . no. cherish ..,1 perpetuate Zr Without attempting either to expose or nalliof J ' Church of Rome, which must be left to those f by education and study, I shall merely observe that 1. with us in the great essential truths of Christianity a g rees m the Apostles’ creed; the Lord’s their catechism; but the ten commandments differ s^ewhat! 35 though they are not absolutely contradictory to our translation. A gentleman of that Church, lately deceased, used to say “that they believed all we did, and a good deal more.” The same thing is also noticed in the memoirs of the great Sully, for the year 1604, as may be seen in a translation, printed at Edin- burgh, in 1773: the original work I have not met with. It must not be forgotten, also, that all the efforts hitherto made to convert the Roman Catholics of Lower Canada, have signally failed of success ; and it may now be considered hope- less, unless some new and more efficacious scheme be devised for that purpose. It was generally believed, and is now evident that the Royal Institution for the advancement of Learning was expected to be the means of bringing up many of the rising generation to the English Church ; which may be inferred, in- dependently of its subsequent policy, from the members being selected chiefly from that church, with the Bishop as Principal: 11 but the measure did little more than creating jealousies, without attaining the chief object in view. But farther, the act of 1774, and our Constitutional Act, in • 1791, provided that the Roman Catholic Clergy should enjoy all their rights, dues, &c. “with respect to such persons only as profess the said religion.” It is farther enacted, that Protestants shall pay tithes, so as to form a fund for the maintenance of a Protestant Clergy ; but tithes have never been collected from Protestant proprietors of farms, and cannot now be collected, after this enactment has remained so long a dead letter. So that in practice, though not by the letter of the law, whenever a cultivated farm in a Roman Catholic parish is sold to a Protestant, which is frequently the case, the Priest loses his tithe or dues, and the purchaser pays none. This will sufficiently account for the great aversion manifested by the French Canadians to the settlement among them, of emigrants from the British Isles, many of whom are Protestants ; particularly when they are threatened with the ex- tinction of their institutions, language and laws. It may be observed that, institutions being a general term, may perhaps be h See Neilson’s Quebec Almanack ; I have not a regular series to consult, but that for 18*22 is sufficient. 86 understood to include even the Seminaries of learning where their Priests are educated. It deserves to be particularly noticed, as an important fact, that, since Protestants pav no tithes, a pecuniary temptation or premium is thereby held out for Roman Catholic farmers to join either of the Protestant Churches, or some of the Dissenters from them ; yet we have not heard of a single convert being made from among the far- mers, whether French Canadians or Roman Catholic emigrants from the old country, considerable numbers of whom must have settled in this Province, especially within the last twenty-live years. It thus appears that, notwithstanding this accidental induce- ment, and all the means used since the cession of the country, yet the conversion of the inhabitants to the English Church has made no progress; but they are attached, as much as ever, to the Church of Rome. Is it not, therefore, the best policy to make no further exertions to prevent it; but, rather to give them more facility to educate young men for their church, and to support them m a respectable planner after they are ordained Rut there is yet a stronger reason than the good policy of the measure ; it is a stipulation in the treaty by which Canada was ceded to the crown of Great Britain. The following extract rom the fourth article, which is placed at the beginning of our Provincial Statute Rook, contains all that relates to this matter the i-eaty. “ IBs Britannic Majesty, on his side, agrees to grant the liberty of the Catholic religion to the inhabitants of anada: he will consequently give the most effectual orders, iat h, s new Roman Catholic subjects may profess the worship , r ® h ° lon ’ accordln g t0 the rites of the Romish Church as far as the laws of Great Britain permit.” The British Parliament, in the Act, (14, Geo. III. c «q i framed an oath of allegiance expressly for the new To * j- ’ subjects who might be appointed to certain offices; whidn" again enacted, with some additional words, in the Constit / i Ac, (31, Geo. III. c. 31). So .ha, .hi only ,S To f Tt moment then remaining, not permitted bv the' h« - S ( r”' Britain, was the Ecclesiastical L, in some cases ne l poral jurisdiction usurped or assumed by the Homan^onUff; 37 which is prohibited by the Statute, 1, El. ch. I. This difficulty appears to have been amicably arranged to the satisfaction of both parties; for no complaints arising therefrom, have ever been heard publicly from either side. And, as this relates chiefly, if not entirely, to the Royal prerogative ; if the Sove- reign and Privy Councillors are satisfied, surely no others have a right to complain, and least of all the Protestant subjects of a distant Colony like Canada. I have not hesitated to recommend the use of the English language only, in all the written daily proceedings of the Legis- lature, and also in the Courts of Justice, when not incompatible with the ends for which these courts are constituted. Because, it is only from an indulgence, if not a mistaken policy, of the Executive Government, that this did not take place before. The former laws were also continued, or rather resumed after being laid aside for ten years, by the Act of 1774; and, as neither their laws nor language were guaranteed at the cession of the country, there ought to be no hesitation on one side, nor complaint on the other, in consequence of the changes that are so much required for the public good. But it is quite different in regard to their religion, which is secured to them by treaty ; and it would be ungenerous as well as unjust, in a powerful nation like Great Britain not to observe it religiously towards a weak colony like this. It must not be merely a toleration, as contended for in the letter to Lord Liverpool already referred to, but the free and secure exercise of their religion, with all its rites and ceremonies. And, if this be secured to the French Canadians, as they are frequently called, in such a manner as to be unalterable by the United Legislature of the two Provinces ; there can be little doubt that it would reconcile them to the Union, with the necessary changes in the laws of Lower Canada, and to the disuse of their language, as abovementioned. Perhaps, even to the Governor’s approbation being required, of the Priest or Cure , which their Bishop is about to place in a vacant parish. It is not, however, desirable by any means, that their lan- guage should fall into disuse or be discouraged more than is absolutely necessary. For, there can be no doubt that, with the E 38 free exercise and security of their religion, and the use of their language (which it would be impolitic and is impossible to abolish entirely) they will form the strongest bulwark against the flood of infidelity on the one hand, and of religious fanati- cism on the other, with which we are endangered by unprincipled adventurers from the old country, and more especially from among our southern neighbours. The Canadian priesthood and intelligent laymen, have, for a long time, been well aware and duly sensible of the many advantages they enjoy under the Monarchial Government of Britain, compared with what they might expect, were the United States to become masters of this country. The atrocious calumnies, widely circulated and believed by many, against their Nuns and Priests in the name of Maria Monk ; together with the total destruction of a nunnery near Boston by a frantic mob, for which the State could not or would not grant any compensation, have very recently exhibited the contrast in strong colours. The Priests, from the influence they possess over their flocks, have, generally, been always a strong support to the British Government in this Province. At the siege of Quebec, in 1775-76; during the progress of the sanguinary French Revolution, when exertions were made to revolutionize this country; also in the war with the United States, begun in 1812 ; l and, lastly, the late insurrection in the District of Montreal would undoubtedly have been much more extensive and alarming, had the Priests not exerted themselves to prevent it. For these reasons, and for the benefit of the inhabitants of Montreal generally, it may be hoped the Government will be induced without delay, to settle the existing difficulties with the Samt Sulpicians, as Seigneurs of the island, in conformity with their offer and with the recommendation of the Roval Commis- sioners of Enquiry. The laws of Great Britain, relating u, ecclesiastical affairs, ha,e never been general^, extended to the Colonies, though i^ some cases they have. But they are much mitigated and re- laxed of late years, particularly since the Catholic Emancipation See Appendix, No. III. Bill passed into a law^lO, Geo. IV. c. 7.). The supreme Le- gislature of the Empire having wisely and liberally followed up the suggestion and recommendation of Sir W. Blackstone, in 1765. After stating various penal and disabling enactments made at different times against the papists, he adds, “ But if a time should ever arrive, and perhaps it is not very distant, when all fears of a Pretender shall have vanished, and the power of the Pope shall become feeble, ridiculous, and despic- able, not only*in England but in every kingdom of Europe, it probably would not then be amiss to review and soften these rigorous edicts ; at least till the civil principles of the Roman Catholics called again upon the Legislature to renew them: for it ought not to be left in the breast of every merciless bigot, to drag down the vengeance of these occasional laws, upon inoffen- sive, though mistaken subjects, in opposition to the lenient in- clinations of the civil magistrate, and to the destruction of every principle of toleration and religious liberty.”* Before quitting this part of the subject, I must endeavour to obviate and remove an objection or opinion started by Mr Ques- nel, advocate, which is plausible and may perhaps appear just to many others, besides him. In the Appendix to the Fifth Report of the Commissioners of Enquiry, page 180, his exami- nation by them is given. Regarding the property held by the Seminary of Montreal, the question is put, 66 Have you formed any opinion on the right to that property ? I have. The Law of Nations materially influences the question. A capitulation must be held sacred, as the expression of the conditions on which a nation or a province is surrendered. In Canada, in the capitulation of 1760, it is stipulated, that the religious com- munities shall hold their property, moveables, seigneuries, &c. &c.; and this was granted. The subsequent treaty of peace, in 1763, contained nothing to alter the capitulation; but, on the contrary, by its silence, acquiesced in that agreement. How the Imperial Legislature afterwards, in 1774, in recognizing the laws and property of the country, made an exception of the re- ligious communities , is to me inexplicable. The law is strong, k Commentaries, vol. iv. page 57- 40 and I suppose we must defer to it ; but I cannot feel that by that Act, passed so long after the solemn capitulation, which had been tacitly confirmed by the succeeding treaty of peace, the Seminary could justly be deprived of its property.” At first sight there appears a discrepancy between some ar- ticles of the capitulation and the treaty of peace; but not between the latter and the Act of 1774. However, after looking more attentively into the treaty and capitulation, the difficulty of re- conciling them will disappear. In the capitulation of Quebec the preceding year, the sixth article asks for protection of the communities and the exercise of the Roman religion, &c. more in detail ; but only “ until the possession of Canada shall be decided by a treaty between their most Christian and Britannic Majesties which was granted. The thirteenth article of the capitulation signed at Montreal, asks certain conditions in case news of peace should arrive and Canada remain to the King of France, before the embarkation of the Marquis of Vaudreuil, &c. The answer was, “whatever the King may have done on this subject, shall be obeyed.” The demand in article twenty- seventh, was granted in part; the rest was to depend on the Kings pleasure. The demand in the thirtieth article, which was refused, was made on the supposition of Canada remain^ in possession of the Crown of Great Britain. On the other hand the treaty also contains some restrictions and provisions, not to be found in the capitulation : such as granting to those that wished to leave Canada, eighteen months to dispose of their property &c. and restricting the sale of their estates, to be made only to British subjects ; likewise, in granting the liberty of the Catholic religion, &c. it was to be done, “as far as the aws of Great Britain permit.” It must be well attended to, that some of the articles of capitulation were to be in force only until the conclusion of a definitive treaty, that others regarding the prisoners, &c were executed without delay; and that those who negocated them were not specially appointed for that pur- pose, and cannot be supposed much conversant in such matters- whereas the definitive treaty was concluded by able negociators’ who had full powers from their respective Sovereigns expressly for the purpose; and contains no mention nor allusion to any 41 capitulations, though the preliminaries of peace, signed 3d November, are referred to. From all these considerations and reasons, we come irresistibly to the conclusion, that, where the treaty does not refer to, and confirm the capitulation in any particular, the latter, in place of being acquiesced in, is super- seded by the former, which is subsequent thereto, and of a nature much more formal and solemn. Moreover, the definitive treaty of 1763, cedes to Great Britain, Mobile and other territories on the left side of the Missisippi; and likewise, by the ninth article cedes the islands of Grenada and the Grenadines. It does not appear whether or not any capitulations had been en- tered into for these places; but these cessions, in both the 7th and 9th articles, are made, “ with the same stipulations in fav- our of the inhabitants of this colony, inserted in the fourth ar- ticle for those of Canada.” But farther, the King of Spain was also a party to that treaty, and in consequence of conquests made in the Island of Cuba being restored to him, he cedes to Great Britain, by the 20th article, 66 Florida, with Fort St. Augustin,” &c. Now, in the capitulation of the Havannah, by articles 6, 7, and 8, much more detailed and full freedom and scope were granted to the religion of the inhabitants than to those of Canada by the capitulation of Montreal ; and it might be supposed that his Catholic Majesty would have claimed the same for the inhabitants of Florida, as had been granted in the capitulation of the Havannah ; but the words, though not pre- cisely the same, are of the same import as in the 4th article: to wit, “ His Britannic Majesty agrees, on his side, to grant to the inhabitants of the countries, above ceded, the liberty of the Catholic religion, he will consequently give the most express and the most effectual orders, that his new Roman Catholic subjects may profess the worship of their religion, according to the rites of the Romish Church, as far as the laws of Great Britain permit.” 1 Some persons may perhaps think, that more has been said than is necessary on this point; but it is an object 1 The capitulations of Montreal and of the Havannah, with the definitive treaty of 1763, may be seen in the Annual Register for the years 1760 and 1762. 42 of much importance, to vindicate the British Parliament, when it can so easily be done, against the insinuation of having passed an Act contrary to the stipulations of a solemn treaty. It mav however, be observed, that “the liberty of the Catholic reli- gion could not well be enjoyed, were the King to deprive the m a itants, by a suit at law, of one of their principal institutions for the education of young men for their church. In this mat- ot virrT* seems to have acted up ° n the n ° bie ***** of King John of France, “though good faith were banished from the rest of the earth, she ought still to retain her habita- tion in the breasts of princes ” m As t lio c r 1 j tain in Ti v U j AS the Sa,1C laW does not ob- c n the British dominions, we may add, and princesses XI m t,,e emctio " « — rz the City of Montreal, have not been sought to be removed o erwuse than by amicable negociations with the Priests of the Montreal Seminary, notwithstanding all that has hn ! by individuals, in t a,„„ r of . differ J h “ ^ «£ this amicable method we mnv 1 e ain £* finally accomplished, to the satisfaclnTall 0bjeC ‘ made; the following.may be mentioned & 7™ formerI y siderable. The criminal lawTt thai l ’ “ g ^ m ° St con - in both Provinces f was the same it is believed in either, uponTheTriminaf WrfEi W) made stood in 1774, when it was introduced by Art f p T “ * into the Province of Quebec In this’ V A ° f Parl:ament > terations have yet been made; whereas inTlter ^ by following the example of the Imperial P, i Pro ™ce, Sir Robert Peel’s labours were conspicuous theT"-’ “ WhicH gislature, within a few years has ™ ’ . Prov mcial Le- gated the criminal code, especially bv thl” A f ng ° d and miti ~ c. 4. This chcrns^, aS ' tfd ^ ° f ?'• 1 their other laws, suggests the expediency and J mg different Judges after the Union / \i essit y of ,j av- now distinct Provinces; at least until’ their hws b^ ^ laws become more m Hume’s History, Edward III. A - H. 1363. 43 assimilated, if such should ever be the case. The Judges for the part now forming Lower Canada, ought, as at present, to understand, and be able to speak from the Bench, both English and French. There is another matter that will require serious deliberation and perhaps occasion some difficulty before it can be satisfac- torily adjusted. Lower Canada is free from debt : whereas the public debt of Upper Canada has been increasing for several years and is now very considerable. At a conference between the two Houses in February, 1838, the members attending on behalf of the Council, stated, as the chief reason for not pass- ing several money bills, “ that the debt of the Province already amounts to more than one million currency.” It is proper here to notice an unusual proceeding, which, so far as my information goes, is without a single precedent. The House of Assembly of that Province, last session, agreed upon an address to Her Majesty, praying that she would be graciously pleased to re- commend to Her Parliament to pass an Act imposing a duty of 2^ per cent, ad valorem , on imports into Lower Canada, to be applied to the payment of interest on the debt of Upper Canada, &c. This is not mentioned for the purpose of offering an opinion on the propriety or impropriety of the proposed measure ; but merely to point it out as a consequence of divid- ing the former Province of Quebec. The House of Assembly also framed an address to the Throne, accompanied by a series of Resolutions and the Report of a Special Committee on the political state of the Canadas, and recommending their being united on certain conditions, some of which will probably be considered inadmissible ; but it is not necessary to make many observations thereon. It is, however, proper to notice that they have fallen into some mistakes, through inadvertence and inat- tention to recent events and to the History of Canada since its cession to the Crown of Great Britain. For example, at page 7 of the Report, it is stated that disaffection in Lower Canada is exclusively confined to Canadians of French origin, from a “ hatred of British rule and British connexion and, though this assertion is somewhat qualified in page 16, yet even there it is not correctly stated. For, on examination it will, I am 44 persuaded, appear evident that, in proportion to the relative numbers of the two races, there are nearly, if not fully, as many disaffected persons and traitors, of the leaders at least, among those of British and Irish birth and descent, as among the French Canadians. These leaders it is clear, have a dislike or hatred not only to British rule, but also to rule of every des- cription; for their ambition and hearts’ desire is bent on becom- ing themselves riders! At page 22, there is a boast of the loyalty and exalted patriotism of the Upper Canadians : now, though this is readily admitted to be the real character of the inhabitants generally, yet truth requires they should be put in mind that, at different periods, there have been many excep- tions, who created much agitation and internal disquiet; more indeed or fully as much as existed in this Province, until the late troubles which produced an open rebellion last year. It then soon became evident that the conspiracy extended also to Upper Canada, and had been hatching for several years. There are still many persons living in that Province who must istmctly remember the intestine excitement and troubles, for about ten years preceding the war of 1812, connected with the names of William Weekes, John Mills Jackson, Joseph Will- cocks, Judge Thorpe, and Mr Wyatt. Shortly after the peace much agitation and trouble was also occasioned, for a few years’ by Robert Gourlay. When the war broke out with the United States many people left the Province and joined the enemy, among whom were three men who were at the time, or had been tTwYT > ° f tHe H ° USe ° f AsSem %’- ^eir names were Willcocks, above mentioned, Merckle or Marcle and th^ the V f ° 7" y had lefttheir homes and turned traitors, hat they formed a battalion in the enemy’s ranks, called the Canadian Volunteers,” under the command of Joseph W cocks, who was killed in a skirmish near Fort Erie A death too honorable for such a man, as was remarked at the time. On the shore of Lake Erie, eighteen traitors were taken in arms having joined a party of the enemy to plunder their fellow sub- jects in the Autumn of 1813. They were tried at Ancas t r • nnd fifteen were convicted, of whom eight suffered tor Z fr 45 crimes." In Lower Canada the Militia turned out bravely to defend their country; and it is not known that any of them ever deserted to the enemy or were concerned in any treasonable practices. The Militia of Upper Canada also did their duty, in general, most gallantly and perseveringly ; and these excep- tions and particulars are stated, merely to show that they have been overlooked by the Assembly of that Province, in estimat- ing the loyalty of the Canadas. It is not with the intention of increasing or creating loyalty in the Canadas, that I recommend /heir being re-united, though that is very desirable, if it could, with certainty, be depended on as a consequence of their Union; but it is to cure the evils and remove the complaints of Upper Canada, arising from the want of a seaport and the diffi- culty, we may say the impossibility, of apportioning the public revenue, so as to give satisfaction to both Provinces. Some sections of the United Province would no doubt occasionally be dissatisfied with their shares of money granted for public im- provements, &c. and this has sometimes occurred in Lower Canada between Quebec and Montreal ; particularly in regard to the duties levied on imports, many years ago, for building jails in the different Districts : but such local complaints cannot be attended with any permanently bad consequences. The As- sembly suggest the annexation of a considerable part of the Lower to the Upper Province; or a Legislative Union of all the British North American Provinces. The Legislative Council of Upper Canada suggest, and seem to recommend, something like a Federal Union of these Provinces. But, let any person consider and examine all the three schemes in detail, how they are to be effected and in what manner they would operate, and, if I am not much mistaken, he will soon be convinced that none of them could cure or remove the difficulties that were foretold * Th< >se who are too young to remember these circumstances, will find them fully detailed in William James’s Military Occurrences, two volumes. On the return of peace the Prince Regent gave up the forfeited estates of traitors, towards indemnifying the sufferers by the war in Upper Canada. In consequence, a Provincial Act was passed (58, Geo. III. c. 12,) to authorize the appointment of Commissioners, &c. and to regulate the disposal of these estates, which appear, from the preamble, to have been numerous. F 46 by Mr Lymburner, in 1791, and which now. actually exist, and have existed for many years, between Upper and Lower Canada. It cannot, however, be expected that the Union will operate immediately as a talisman or specific remedy for all complaints; on the contrary, it will require some time, and a little forbear- ance from all parties, before its beneficial effects can be sensibly felt and seen. And, while the Mother Country does not relinquish the power of disallowing Provincial Acts, neither Province has much to fear from the Union. This power, to be sure, has seldom been brought into action : one instance I re- collect several years ago in Upper Canada, regarding the will of a person who had acquired property in the Province, though an alien, which was afterwards satisfactorily arranged : another case occurred in this Province, not more than three or four years ago, in consequence of some improper enactments in an election law. The reservation of such a power by the Supreme Go- vernment, and the knowledge that it will be exercised when necessary, must prove a strong check on the Provincial Legis- latures. Some people in each Province seem to view the proposed Union with awe, as an event that will likely be followed by dire effects. This alarm is probably natural to mankind, when con- templating any change about to take place in their condition or government, and even in more trivial matters. Thus, in the year 1748, on the return of peace in Britain, the increase of commerce and manufacture brought also a tide of luxury, im- morality and profligacy; and the erection of new turnpikes was considered, in some parts of the Island, as a great evil and was forcibly resisted. “ The whole land was overspread with a succession of tumult, riot, and insurrection, excited in different parts of the kingdom by the erection of new turnpikes, which the Legislature judged necessary for the convenience of inland carriage. In order to quell these disturbances, recourse was had to the military power; several individuals were slain, and some were executed as examples.’’ 0 I have also read, (but forget where) that when the change from old to new style was under 0 Smollett’s History. Vol. Hi. book 3, ch. i. section 29. 47 consideration, only three years afterwards, the whole country, from John o’ Groats’ House to the land’s end, was in anxiety and dread of the consequences! Yet the inhabitants of Britain have long ago been reconciled to the payment of toll at the turnpikes, and to the change of style. Such, I am confident will also be the case after the Union of the Canadas, if effected on proper principles and with due precautions. The measure is urged, chiefly on the ground that it is absolutely necessary to avert greater evils. If “each Province could be enabled to raise and regulate its own revenue,” then they might be allowed to remain as at present ; but, owing to their geographical posi- tion, that is impracticable. There is yet another strong reason for the Union, which must be noticed : when forming only one Province, the inhabitants will be much more able and efficient in quelling any intestine commotion and in resisting foreign ag- gressions, than they can possibly be when separate. This reason was urged by the minority, on the question of the Union, in the Legislative Council of this Province, in 1823, and ap- pears on their Journal. In perusing the Report adopted last Session by the Legis- lative Council of Upper Canada, it is a disappointment to me, that they have not entered into some details, as to the principles and terms on which they consider the Union might be effected; more particularly as it was attempted, without success, fifteen years ago, and has often since occupied the public attention. — There is, however, one paragraph of the Report, in reference to Lower Canada, which strikes me forcibly, as well deserving of attention and serious consideration. It occurs in page 64, as follows : “ Your Committee do not hesitate to say, that a representa- tive form of Constitution should never have been conferred on any Colony, until the administration of Justice, and the neces- sary charges for the Civil Government, had been so provided for as to secure them against the caprice of either branch of the Legislature — or at least the passing an Act for that pur- pose, in the first Session, should have been the condition on which alone their charter should continue in force; and such an Act would be the best evidence a Colony could give of its de- 48 sire to guard the integrity of its institutions. The observation of what has passed in Lower Canada within the last twenty years can leave no doubt on this point.” We shall now refer more particularly to the provisions and enactments of our Constitutional Act, (31, Geo. III. c. 31,) as they have been interpreted and acted upon, at different times, in the Canadas. It has been already stated that the Legisla- tures of these Provinces have generally acted on the untenable assumption that the Church of England is the Established Church in these and all the other Colonies, which has proved unjust and injurious to the claims and rights of the Church of Scotland. It would be tedious and not interesting* to enter much into detail on this point; it is therefore considered suffi- cient to refer briefly to some of their Acts. In Upper Canada, the 33, Geo. III. c. 5, gives power and authority to Justices of the Peace to solemnize marriages, where no minister of the English Church resides within a limited distance ; but ministers of the Scottish Church are not mentioned, thereby giving a preference over the latter to Justices of the Peace (as far as a Provincial Act can do it). The Act, 38, Geo. III. c. 4, reser- ved for His Majesty’s pleasure, authorizes ministers or clergy- men of the Scottish Church to celebrate matrimony, under certain conditions and restrictions, not at all flattering ; but, on the contrary, degrading to the ministers and other members of that Church. The next Act worthy of notice is the 9, Geo. IV. c. 2, passed in 1828, “for the relief of the Religious So- cieties therein mentioned.” It enumerates ten different de- nominations of Christians, to whom, under a prescribed form, power is given to hold land in perpetuity, but not more than five acres for any one congregation. At the head of the list are placed Presbyterians, which of course includes the Church of Scotland. The last Act on this subject, that I am aware of (not having seen those of several of the latest Sessions) is the 1, Will. IV. c. 1, passed in 1831, to make valid certain mar- nages, &c. It prescribes rules for registering marriages; and that the clergyman or minister must obtain a certificate from the Justices in Quarter Sessions of the Peace, &c. before he can solemnize matrimony. These provisions extend to nine or 49 ten different denominations, at the head of which are placed “ Members of the Church of Scotland.’' The only movement, that I am aware of, by the Legislature of Upper Canada^ (and that was by the Assembly alone) is a petition to the King in 1824, which is introduced into the evidence of Mr J. C. Grant, before the Canada Committee of the House of Commons, on the 17th June, 1828. In Lower Canada there is no objection against the first Act (35, Geo. III. c. 4,) relative to the Registry of Marriages, &c. But, in 1804 another Act was passed (44, Geo. III. c. 11,) “to confirm certain marriages therein mentioned,” which is very in- imical, though in a covert manner, to the Scottish Church. It consists of two Sections only ; the first confirms certain mar- riages, including those previously solemnized by ministers of our Church, with respect to which no doubts had ever before been raised ; the second clause takes special care, in the last sentence, to enact that nothing in the Act shall be construed or taken “to confirm any marriage which shall be celebrated after the passing of this Act.” Thus raising doubts and then dis- pelling them, so far as relates to the past ; but, at the end leav- ing them in full force for the future ; which occasioned some wag to remark, that this Act, like a wasp, carried the sting in its tail A similar Act was passed several years after, (1, Geo. IV. c. 19,) regarding marriages in the Inferior District of Gaspe. In 1827, an Act (7, Geo. IV. c. 2,) was passed with some diffi- culty, by the exertions of a late much esteemed legislator}’ to prevent the bad consequences that might possibly ensue to indi- viduals or to the community by allowing such Acts to remain on the Statute Book without amendment. The last of this de- scription is the Act, 10 and il, Geo. IV. c. 58, “for the relief of certain Religious Congregations therein mentioned.” This seems to be an imitation and of course is intended as an im- provement of the Upper Canada Act of 1828: and, instead of specifying different denominations, it is for the relief of “any Religious Congregation or Society of Christians.” They are p The Hon. John Richardson, a member of the Legislative and Executive Councils. ^ erf ^ i " J “ d > -pon any It has I believe been frequently remarked that clergymer when clothed with temporal power and authority, are very a- o abuse or misuse it; which is in general confirmed by uDauea, Sir, your obt. humble servant. 75 Since the foregoing was written, I have observed that some of my countrymen, in urging the claims of our Church in the Canadas, make a distinction between such as were English Co- lonies before, and those acquired since, the Union. This is a mistaken opinion, and is in fact compromising or abandoning the Rights of our Church in the old Colonies: for the Act of Union makes no distinction, and the moment it was ratified by both nations, the names of England and Scotland were laid aside, or merged in that of Great Britain; consequently, the foreign “ Dominions and Plantations’’ became also British . However, the withholding of our Rights and Privileges in Colonies ac- quired since the Union, may appear to many as a more glaring and a greater infringement of that solemn Treaty, than in Co- lonies settled or acquired by England before the Union. Considerable newspaper discussion has recently taken place regarding an Union, supposed to be in contemplation, of all the North American Colonies ; but on what plan or principles does not clearly appear, nor whether it is to be a federal or an incor- porating legislative Union ; or to consist partly of both. From what has been already said on this subject, it will be apparent that the writer cannot perceive any beneficial consequences likely to result from such an Union. But, he is decidedly of opinion that the Canadas should be re-united, as soon as it can be carried properly into effect : and there must also be some amendments made in the ecclesiastical part of their constitution; and a course of policy adopted, quite different from what was formerly followed in that respect. These improvements and amendments are loudly called for, in order to restore and pre- serve internal tranquillity and contentment in the Canadas. But, until that shall be accomplished, it is unnecessary and not satisfactory to consider or discuss more comprehensive schemes, such as a federal or incorporate Union of the British Colonies in North America. In conclusion, it is proper to notice, what has been occasion- ally recommended and urged, during the last twenty years or 70 more, by some cool, calculating, but mistaken politicians. This is no less than that the North American Colonies cost Great Britain more than they are worth ; and, therefore, the sooner they are sold or disposed of in barter for some valuable con- sideration, so much the better. Those who sport such opinions, forget that the United Kingdom, considering its small popula- tion compared with some other European states, and from its insular situation must depend for its wealth, safety and glory even for its very existence as an independent state, upon “Ships’ Commerce and Colonies for which Buonoparte so ardently wished, as the most likely means by which he hoped to vanquish and subjugate Britain, which stood between him and almost universal empire. In all that has been said on different topics touched upon in this production, I have never lost sight of what must be the heart’s desire and fervent prayer of°every true n on; namely, that all the dependencies and most distant provinces of the British Empire may be preserved to her entire And particularly in this quarter of the world, not to look “f or - 17^° ° f a f Parati0n between these Colonies and the Mother Country within a century or three centuries, or a thousand years;- but, on the contrary, to use every energy and exertion to cement and preserve the connection, “as W as the sun and moon endure, throughout all generations.” 1 ' ° the^OthJ^lS "ffi! Lordlh t0 ? ^ to hi “* * Kingston, and oral replies to some other Ad^ses. 6 * 1 ^ 11 S1I " llar Sentiments in written p Psalm lxxii. 5. APPENDIX, No. I. (See page 24. ) We subjoin the pastoral letter of his Lordship the Catholic Bishop of the Diocese of Montreal, which was promulgated in this city last Sunday. — Morning Courier , 31s£ Oct , 1838. For a length of time back, dear brethren, we hear of nothing but agitation, and even of revolt, and this in a country which has hitherto been distinguished by its loyalty, its spirit of peace, its love for the religion of its fathers. On every side, we behold brothers rise up against their brothers, friends against their friends, citizens against their fellow-citizens ; and discord from one extremity of this Diocese to the other, seems to have burst asunder the bonds of charity which united the members of the same body, the children of the same church, the children of Catholicity, which is a religion of unity. In circumstances of such moment, the only position that we can take, is, not merely to stand to an opinion (which nevertheless, as citizens, we and our worthy fellow-laborers in the holy Ministry should have, equally with others, the right of emitting), but to act up to the obli- gation which the Apostle of the Gentiles imposes upon us by saying — Wo is unto me if I speak not the Gospel : for a necessity lieth upon me ; Necessitas enim mihi incumbit . I, Cor, lx. 16. No, dear brethren, no one of you is ignorant of these truths ; — that the duties of the different members of society form as essentially a part of Christian morality, as the duties of the different members of a family ; that this divine code of morality is a portion of the sacred deposite of Faith, which has been transmitted to us by the pure chan- nel of Scripture and Tradition ; and that We, as a successor of the Apostles, are bound to transmit it to you with equal fidelity. There is moreover nothing that can render us the object of suspicion. In our veins, as in yours, flows Canadian blood : We have given fre- quent proofs of the love we have for our dear and common country ; and, as the Apostle, so can we take God to witness, how we long after you all, in the bowels of Jesus Christ. Philip, i. 8. Besides, you know that we never received anything from the Civil Government, — JOHN JAMES LARTIQUE, FIRST BISHOP OF MONTREAL, &c. To the Clergy , and all the faith ful of our Diocese , Health and Benediction. K 78 APPENDIX, NO. I. as we expect from it nothing but that justice which is due to every British subject. And we bear testimony to the truth, when we so- lemnly protest, that in speaking to you on the present occasion, we speak of ourselves, impelled by no exterior influence, but solely ac- tuated by motives of conscience. It is not, then, our intention to give an opinion, as a citizen, on this purely political question : among the different branches of government, which is in the right, or which is in the wrong; (this is one of those things which God has delivered to the consideration of men: mundum tradidit disputatione eorum .*) but the moral question, namely, what is the duty of a Catholic towards the civil power established and constituted in each state? This reli- gious question falling within our jurisdiction and competency, it is un- doubtedly the province of your Bishop to give you all necessary instruction on this subject, and your province to listen to him. For, as the celebrated Lamenais says, “ Bishops being commissioned by the Holy Ghost to govern the church of God, under the direction of the Sovereign Pontiff, we profess that we believe that in every thing which appertains to the spiritual administration of each Diocese, clergy and laity ought, faithfully, to obey the orders of the bishop instituted by the Pope.” This, then, is what the sacred Scriptures teach you on the above question. “ Let every soul,” says St. Paul, — Rom. xiii. “ Be subject to the higher powers, for there is no power but from God, and those that are, are ordained of God. Therefore he that resisteth the power resisteth the ordinance of God. And they that resist, purchase to themselves damnation. The ruler is the minister of God to them for good. He beareth not the sword in vain. For he is the minister of God, an avenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil, wherefore be subject of necessity, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.” — Rom. i. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. “ Be ye subject therefore,” adds St. Peter, the chief of the Apostles, “ to every human creature for God’s sake ; whether it be to the King, as excelling ; or to the governors as sent by Him for the punishment of evil doers, and for the praise of the good. For so is the will of God. As free and not as making liberty of malice, but as the servants of God, honour the king. Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear : not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward. For this is thanks worthy, if for conscience towards God, a man endure sorrows, suffering wrongfully.” — I. St. Peter, ii. 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19. Such, dear brethren, are the oracles of the Holy Ghost, as we find them in the sacred volume; such the doctrine of Jesus Christ, as the apostles Peter and Paul, had learned it from the mouth of their Divine Master. But clear as these words may be in themselves, a Christian does not interpret the word of God by his own private judg- ment ; he knows that it is a fundamental point of his faith, that the sacred Scriptures, as St. Peter assures us, II. Ep. i. 20, are not to be understood according to each one’s private interpretation ; and that it belongs to our mother the Catholic Church alone to expound them to us, according to the decision of Jesus Christ in the gospel ; “ If he will not hear the Church let him be to thee as the heathen and the APPENDIX, NO. I. 79 publican/’ — St. Mat. xviii. 17. Now, his present Holiness, Gregory XVI. has expounded from his pontifical chair, these passages of Scrip- ture. He has interpreted the passages which we have cited from the sacred volume, according to the doctrine of the Holy Fathers, and the perpetual tradition of the Church, from its establishment down to the present day : he has dictated their true meaning to the Christian world, in his Encyclical letter, addressed in the beginning of his Pon- tificate, to the Bishops in every part of the world. Not a solitary Bishop since that period has raised his voice against the doctrine of that letter, so that it has received at least the tacit consent of the great body of Pastors, and consequently, it must be looked upon as an au- thoritative decision in point of doctrine. . a As we have learned,” says the Holy Father, (it is not our voice that you are now going to hear, but that of the V icar of Jesus Christ )— 44 as we have learned that writings disseminated among the people proclaim doctrines which shake the fidelity and submission due to Princes, and cause the standard of revolt to be raised on all sides, it becomes necessary to use every precaution to prevent deluded mul- titudes from being drawn out of the line of duty. Let all bear in mind according to the advice of the Apostle 4 that there is no power but from God; and therefore he thkt resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God : and they that resist purchase to themselves dam- nation ’ Both human and divine laws rise up in condemnation of those who, by schemes of sedition and revolt endeavour to shake alle- giance to Princes, and hurl them from the throne. It was for this reason, and in order to avoid sullying themselves with such a crime, that the first Christians, amidst the fury of persecution, remained faithful to the Emperors, and sought, as it is certain they did, the in- terests of the empire. Of this they gave abundant proofs, not only by faithfully executing every order that was not contrary to religion, but bv shedding their blood on the field of battle. 1 he Christian SL s.J* Sl Austin, (in Psultn 124, No. 7) ,er,o4 . He.thon Empire: but when there was question of the cause ol Jesus Christ, thev acknowledged only Him who reigns in Heaven. 1 hey distin- guished eternal from their temporal Lord: and yet for the sake their eternal Lord, they were submissive to their temporal one. This it was that the invincible martyr St. Mauritius, commander of the Theban legion, had before his eyes, when, as St. Encherms relates, he answered the Emperor:— We are your soldiers, Prince, but we are at the same time the servants of God ; and now, even the danger of losing our lives, with which we are threatened, docs not induce us to revolt. We have our arms in our hands, and we resist not ; because we prefer to suffer death rather than to inflict it. 1 his fidelity of the Christians of old acquires new lustre, if we remark with Tertulhan, that they were deficient neither in number nor in power, had they chosen to declare themselves enemies to the state. These splendid examples of inviolable submission to Prln( ' e ^ whlch were the necessary consequences of the precepts of the Christian re- ligion, condemn the error of those who, infatuated with the ove of unbridled liberty, direct all their efforts against the rights of authority, 80 APPENDIX, NO. I. “ whilst, upon the people, they entail only slavery under the mask of liberty. Such was the tendency of the evil designs of the Waldenses, of the Beguards, of the Wickliffites, and of others against whom the anathemas of the Apostolic See have been so frequently directed; and they who walk in their footsteps, have no other object in view but to boast with Luther, that they are free from all control of persons and of things.’ , . “ I<; ,s 011 y° ur P art an obligation of duty,” adds the same Pontiff, m his brief of July 1832, to the bishops ‘of Poland, “it is on your part an obligation of duty to watch with the utmost care, lest evil- minded men, propagators of false doctrine, spread among your flocks the contagion of demoralising theories. These men, with ieal for the public good in their mouths, impose upon the credulity of simple men, who blindly become their tools in disturbing the public peace and overthrowing the established order of things. For the good, and for the honor of the Disciples of Jesus Christ, it is fitting that their false doctrines should be exposed: the falseness of their principles must be shown by the immutable word of the sacred Scriptures, and by the indisputable monuments of the Tradition of the Church.” Such is the doctrine of the supreme Pastor of souls, of the vene- rable 1 ontiff now sitting on the eternal chair, in conjunction with the documents of the Church in all ages and in all places. You must now feel, dear brethren, that we could not, without violating our duty and endangering our personal salvation neglect the direction of your consciences in circumstances so critical. For as a Catholic cannot pretend to choose what point of faith he will admit, and what point he will reject: and as St. James says, (Ep. ii. 10,) “lie who offends ln iv e *r\l S bo ?? me 8 ullt y of all >” the present question amounts to nothing less than this— whether you will choose to maintain or whether you will choose to abandon the laws of your religion. Should then any one wish to engage you in a revolt against the established Govern- immt, under the pretext that you form a part of the Sovereign People venHon°nV V F UrSe Ve !i t0 Sed " ced * The too famous National Con- vention of France, though obliged to admit the principle of the Sove- reignty of the people, because it was to this principle that it owed its existence, took good care to condemn popular insurrections, by insert- n 795 n tW Sr" f ^ which heads the conation of 17 Jo, that the Sovereignty resides, not in a part, not even in the majority of the people, but in the entire body of the citizens • adding that no individual that no partial union of citizens can pretendto the Sovereignty. But who will dare to say, that in this country tl e totahty of cit.ze.is desires the overthrow of the Government ” 7 We conclude, dear brethren, by appealing to your noble and after having mentioned the Act of 1774, which restored to the Canadians their peculiar code APPENDIX, NO. III. 87 of laws, “ in all matters relating to property and civil rights,” the Re- port adds, “ what might have been the conduct of the Canadians under other treatment, we can only conjecture ; but it is certain, that the efforts which were afterwards made by the revolted Colonies, to allure them into their confederacy, were unsuccessful, and that in gene- ral, the population of Lower Canada remained faithful to the Royal cause.” Those who are old enough to remember the Revolution in trance, and the war which began with that nation in 1793, will recollect with horror the proceedings that we every day heard of from that ill-fated country. The sanguinary revolutionists spared neither age nor sex ; the ministers of religion were massacred, the Christian Sabbath was abolished, death was decreed to be an eternal sleep, &c. And, this having been formerly a French colony, great exertions were made to revolutionize the province, and confer upon the inhabitants the bless- ings of liberty and equality ! For this purpose emissaries were at different times sent in from* the United States, by the French minister at Philadelphia (then the seat of Government) to the great alarm of the peaceable and well-disposed people of Canada. There is no doubt that we were very much indebted to the influence and exertions of the Roman Catholic Priesthood lor our escape from such liberty . This is so evident to those who were here at the time, as hardly to require any proof. It may, however, be proper to mention, that one of these emissaries was brought to trial for High Treason and exe- cuted at Quebec, in July, 1797. In his plan to “ overthrow the pre- sent existing Government,” he counted upon the assistance and co-operation of a French fleet and troops ; the fiist object was to se- cure the money and valuable property, for defraying the expenses of the war “ and then effectually to secure all the priests and leading characters in the Province.”* This shews that McLane and others, who formed the plan of overthrowing the present existing Govern- ment, were well aware that they had no chance of success, unless all the priests were first effectually secured . The war with the United States, which was begun by them, in 1812, is of such recent date that many persons are still living who must distinctly remember with what alacrity the inhabitants in general, of different races and different creeds, turned out to defend the country. This is well described by William James, in his work entitled “Mili- tary Occurrences,” in two volumes. It cannot be doubted that the clergymen were as zealous and active as their flocks ; though their exertions, beino of a more retired nature than the field of battle, are not so likely to°be noticed and recorded by the historian. However, one example to the contrary is spoken of, with applause, to this day, * See the evidence on David McLane's trial at Quebec, the 7th July. 1797; particularly that of Elmer Cushing. 88 APPENDIX, NO. IV. of a Roman Catholic Clergyman (now a Bishop) who publicly encouraged and stimulated the spirit of the militia, at the attack on Ogdensburgh, in February, 1813. It is not out of place here to refer to the inhabitants of Jersey, Guernsey, &c. who are descended from Frenchmen; and, though they have retained their language with many of their laws and cus- toms, yet they have on several occasions given convincing proofs of their bravery, loyalty and attachment to the British Sovereigns. The property of Jersey “belonged formerly to the Carterets, a Norman family, who have been always attached to the royal interest, and gave protection to Charles II., both when King and Prince of Wales, at a time when no part of the British dominions durst recognise him.”* Jersey was attacked by a large French force, in 1779; which “met with such a vigorous resistance from the militia of the island, assisted by a body of regulars, that they were compelled to retire without hav- ing landed a single person.” Another unsuccessful attempt was made by France, m 1781, to take this island. A considerable force was landed unexpectedly and gained some advantages by surprise, but were soon overpowered and forced to surrender themselves prisoners ot war, to the number of eight hundred, not one of those who landed having escaped.-)- From the former good conduct of the French Canadians, as they are sometimes called, is it not reasonable and may we not expect the same devoted bravery and loyalty from them at some tuture day, it the occasion should ever require it, provided a different and more judicious line of policy be adopted and continued towards them r No. IV. ( See page 50. J Mr Hagerman’s Speech on the Clergy Reserve Bill,— Third Reading, 4th March, 1835. '^Solicitor General commenced by expressing his sense of the obligations he felt himself under to the house for having yielded to his request, to defer the third reading of the bill until this day, to enable him to offer the observations he had to make against its adop- tion, and which, owing to the measure having been brought up out of the ordinary course, he was unprepared to do the day before yester- day. 1 he question, it would be admitted, was one of very areat im- Guthries Geography, London edition of 1788. f Ency. Britannica, 4th edition, both under the article Jersey. Also Edinburgh Gazetteer, printed in 1822: APPENDIX, NO. IV. 89 portance, involving, as it did, the existence of the Established Church, so far as its existence depended on the public support assigned it by the Constitution ; and therefore it was most desirable that it should be calmly and dispassionately considered. For himself he no longer considered it a party question — it was one on which men of unques- tionable intelligence, integrity, and loyalty were found to disagree, and it must, therefore, depend on the force of truth and argument which was right and which was wrong. He should, with as much brevity as possible, and he hoped for the last time, go over the prominent ob- jections raised by gentlemen, for whose opinions he entertained res- pect, against the exclusive appropriation of the Reserves to the support of the Established Church, and he should do so without any desire to olfend, and he hoped in a manner to free him from any such re- proach. IT 1 1 In the first place it had been contended, that the Established Church of England was not the Established Church of this Province, and although he believed that this opinion was not generally enter- tained in this country, and he believed, was repudiated by all dispas- sionate and well informed persons, he would enter upon its investigation, believing, as he did, that it had not hitherto undergone much discus- . sion. For my own part, said Mr Hagerman, 1 have not the shadow of doubt upon the subject ; and in order the more clearly to explain the grounds of my opinion, I beg, in the first instance, to call the at- tention of hon. members to the state of the Church anterior to the Reformation. It will be recollected, that at that time the Roman Catholic religion prevailed, and was the only recognized religion throughout the Christian world, and that the Pope claimed to be at the head of the Church, exercising unlimited sovereignty over it.— Henry VIII., for reasons not now necessary to advert to, denounced the exercise of this sovereignty within his dominions as an usurpation, declared that he was the head of the Church within his dominions — and denounced entirely the pretensions of the Pontiff. To secure the right thus asserted by Henry, the Parliament of England, in the 26th year of his reign, passed an act, chap. 1, declaring, that “ the King shall be taken, accepted, and reputed the only supreme head on earth of the Church of England, and shall have and enjoy annexed and united to the Imperial Crown of this realm as well the style and title thereof as all honours, dignities, jurisdiction, authorities, &c. &c., to the said supreme head of the same church, belonging, &c .; any usage, foreign law or authority, to the contrary notwithstanding.” Now what "was the foreign authority here referred to ? Of course that of the Pope ; and how far did this authority extend ? As has been said be- fore, throughout the Christian world ; and, therefore, Henry assumed for himself and his successors that same authority throughout that portion of the world then belonging to, or which might afterwards be- long to the Crown of England. Passing by the acts passed in the reign of Edward and Mary, the next statute which I shall advert to is the 1st Elizabeth, chap. 1, in sec. 16— it is enacted, that “no fo- reign prince, person, prelate, state, or potentate, spiritual or temporal, shall at any time after the last day of this Session of Parliament , 90 APPENDIX, NO. IV. use, enjoy^yexercise any manner of power, jurisdiction, superiority, authority, pre-eminence or privilege, spiritual or ecclesiastical within this realm, or ivithin any other your Majesty s dominions or countries that now he , or hereafter shall he , &c.” And by the next section, the 17th — it is “ established and enacted that such jurisdictions, pri- vileges, superiorities, and pre-eminences spiritual and ecclesiastical, as by any spiritual or ecclesiastical person or authority hath heretofore been , or may lawfully be exercised or used for the visitation of the ec- clesiastical state and persons , and for reformation, &c., shall for ever be united and annexed to the imperial crown of this realm.” Here again it is to be asked, 1st. What spiritual or ecclesiastical power existed before the passing of this act ? The answer is, that of the Pope, the same having been restored to him in the preceding reign of Mary. 2nd. What was the nature and extent of this power ? It was the direction, controul and superintendence of the Church throughout the world ; and this power, by this act, was taken from the Pope and annexed to the Crown of England, and declared to extend throughout the Empire and its then dependencies, as well as to such others as might afterwards be acquired. I shall now advert to the Act of Union of England and Scotland, which, of itself furnishes arguments that stand in need of no assistance from other sources to prove the correctness of the position I have advanced. 5th Anne, c. 8, it is enacted, that the Protestant religion contained in the Confession of Faith, and Presbyterian Church government, shall be the only govern- ment of the Church within the kingdom of Scotland ; and by the same statute it is enacted, that the Protestant religion professed and established by law in the Church of England should be unalterably secured according to the laws and statutes having reference to the same, and that every succeeding sovereign coming to the Crown of Great Britain should, at his or her coronation, swear to maintain the same within the kingdoms of England and Ireland, the dominions of Wales and Town of Berwick-upon-Tweed, and the territories there- unto belonging . It has been argued by some hon. gentlemen, that this oath relates to territories that at the time of passing the Act be- longed to the Crown of England — the fallacy of this argument, how- ever, is apparent upon a moment’s reflection. The act declares that all succeeding Sovereigns as Kings or Queens of Great Britain shall take the same oath, viz : to preserve and maintain the Established re- ligion within the kingdoms of England, Ireland — the territory of "Wales, Town of Berwick-upon-Tweed and territories thereunto be- longing ; an oath which George III., his successor or his present Majesty have taken, without excepting territories acquired since the Act of Union. Having thus noticed Acts of Parliament which apply to the Empire generally; I will next advert to a few that have reference to this country, and which clearly point out the Church of England as the Established Church here, and show that the act of Elizabeth above was considered as in force in Canada. The first statute conferring a settled form of goverement on Canada, is the 14th Geo. III. chap. 83. The 5th section of this act secures to His Majesty’s Roman Catholic subjects the free exercise of their APPENDIX, NO. IV. 91 religion, subject to the King’s supremacy, declared and established by an act made in the first year of the reign of Queen Elizabeth, over all the dominions and countries that then did or thereafter should be- long to the Imperial Crown of this realm.” And the 7th section, of the same statute substitutes an oath to be taken by Roman Catholics, in lieu of that required by the before-mentioned statute of Elizabeth. Now, it strikes me that nothing can more clearly prove that the Bri- tish Parliament held that the Church of England was the Established Church of Canada than this act; if otherwise, the statute of Elizabeth could not apply to its inhabitants, and if it did not apply, there was no necessity for relieving them from taking the oath prescribed in it, to be taken by persons assuming office. _ . The next statute I shall refer to, is one of which we are in the habit of speaking in exalted terms, is the act conferring on us our Constitu- tion— that constitution in virtue of which we are authorized to sit and deliberate as representatives of the people, in a Legislative Assembly. The 38th section authorizes the Governor to erect and endow one or more parsonages or rectories as he may think fit, according to the es- tablishment of the Church of England. The 39th section authorizes the Governor to appoint to every such parsonage or rectory an incum- bent, a Minister of the Church of England, who shall have been duly ordained according to the rites of said Church. The 40th section enacts, “ That every such presentation of an incumbent or minister to any such parsonage or rectory, and also the enjoyment of any such parsonage or rectory, and of the rights, profits, and emoluments thereof by any such incumbent or minister, shall be subject and liable to all rights of institution, and all other spiritual and ecclesiastical jurisdiction and authority which have been lawfully granted by His Majesty’s letters patent (not by act of Parliament,) to the Bishop of Nova Scotia, or which may hereafter, by His Majesty s Royal autho- rity, be lawfully granted or appointed to be administered and executed within the said Provinces, or either of them respectively, by the said Bishop of Nova Scotia, or by any other person or persons according to the laws and canons of the Church of England which are law- fully made and received in England. Lastly, the 42d section enacts, “That any acts of the Legislature of either Provinces, which shall in any manner relate to or affect the establishment or dis- cipline of the Church of England, amongst the ministers or mem- bers thereof, shall be laid on the table of both houses of Parliament thirty days before the King himself shall assent to them. Now these sections of the constitution prove incontestably one of two things, either that the Church of England was the established Church in Canada before that act was passed, or, that by it that Church was then established, it being declared that al the laws and canons of the Church of England should be in force, and binding on the clergy. But there is no question whatever but there was no necessity for passing this act to Establish the Church— its enactments were intended to authorize the Governor to divide the country into parishes and rec- tories— to provide for their endowment, and to confer on him the power of presenting incumbents to such parsonages and rectories 9*2 APPENDIX, NO. IV. when endowed. The Church of England was already established, it was a consequence of Canada becoming one of the territories belong- ing to the British Crown, and the only object of the statute was to give effect to its usefulness. The power and jurisdiction of the Bishop of Nova Scotia was founded on no statute, it proceeded direct from the Crown, and before the 31st, Geo. III. was passed, he exer- cised the spiritual power of Bishop of the established Church in Canada, in the manner declared in the 40th section/. Having thus remarked upon the different British Statutes relating to this subject, I will next advert to some of the acts of His Majesty and his government, shewing the light in which they regarded the subject. In the first place, by what authority did His Majesty autho- rize the installation and appointment of a Bishop to the Diocese of Quebec, if the power did not belong to him as the head of the church which he had sworn to maintain throughout all his dominions ; and having exercised this power, under what law does the Bishop act, and irom what laws does he derive his ecclesiastical power? Clearly from the laws and canons of the Church of England, which declare the Church of England to be the established Church throughout the British dominions. The next evidence I shall advert to is one that I do not attach so much importance to as others may be inclined to do, but I will advert to it as being explicit of the views of the great statesman who intro- duced the 31st, Geo. III. into the House of Commons, I mean Mr 1 itt. 1 am aware that it has been supposed by many, that the late Bord Grenville was the author of this act— such is not the case— he had nothing more to do with it than any other member of the cabinet- like all other acts of a similar description, it was originally drawn by w 6 fl aW n° ffi 4 erS * °> f th . e , n Cro T’ under S° in g many changes before it was finally adopted. When the clauses relating to the Church came under discussion, Mr Pitt in explanation of the object to which the reserves were to be applied, made use of these words, « The meaning ot the act was, to enable the Governor to endow, and to present the Protestant Clergy of the Established Church to such parsonage or rectory as might bo constituted or erected within every township or parish which now was or might be formed, and to give to such Pro- testant Clergyman of the Established Church a part or the whole, as S! W r pe f’- 0f the lands appropriated by the act- I j J}? ex P la ined, that this was done “ to encourage the Estab - hshed Church, and that possibly hereafter it might be proposed to Coundr ,,h ° P “ C, '"« h “> ■“ i» tlio Legislative Nothing can be more explicit than this language, shewing, first, that pjas considered as of course that the Church of England was the Established Church m Canada, and secondly, that the reserves were intended solely for its support. Mr Fox and Mr Dundas were both present, and neither of them denied the accuracy of Mr Pitt’s state- men s or views. Mr Fox contended against the expediency of the pro- vision, alleging that either the Roman Catholic or the Presbyterian religion should be the established religion, — he however did not con- ■ APPENDIX, NO. IV. 93 tend that that of England was not so, — and Mr Dundas urged nothing in opposition. I however will defer further remark upon the tendency of these debates until I come to another branch of my argument, and will now proceed to a last, and, what ought to be with us, a conclusive proof in favor of the right of the Church of England to be considered as the established church of these Provinces, — I mean the acts of our own Provincial Legislature. The first of these is the 33, Geo. III. chap 2, and the first act passed to provide for the nomination and appointment of Parish and Town officers; and it is somewhat remarkable that in the bill recently introduced into this branch of the Legislature, no notice whatever has been taken of the enactments I am about to notice. By the 7th sec- tion of the act mentioned, it is provided that the inhabitant house- holders of the parish , township, or place, shall at their town meetings choose and nominate two fit and discreet persons to serve the office of Town Wardens for such parish , township or place : but as soon as there shall be any church built for the performance of divine service “ according to the use of the Church of England , with a parson or minister duly appointed thereto, then the said inhabitant householders shall choose and nominate one person, and the said parson or minister shall nominate another person, which persons shall jointly serve the office of Church Wardens , and that such Town Wardens or Church Wardens and their successors shall be as a corporation , ’ &c. Looking to this act only, (if there are not many others of equal im- portance,) nothing could more clearly demonstrate the understanding of the Legislature that the Established Church of England was the Established Church here; and that when parsons and Church Wardens were once appointed to any parish or place, they became as in Eng- land a corporation. This was assumed, — such a law conferring the same distinction on any other religious body was never so much as thought of ; and in confirmation of this opinion, I will next advert to the act passed in the same session of the Legislature, viz. 33, Geo. III. chap. 5. This act was passed to confirm marriages that had pre- viously been contracted within the Province, and to provide for the future solemnization of marriage within the same. \\ hat says the preamble? Why, that “ whereas many marriages have been con- tracted in this Province at a time when it was impossible to observe the forms prescribed by law , (what law ?) by reason that there was no Protestant parson or minister duly ordained residing in any part of the said Province, nor any consecrated Protestant church or chapel within the same ; and whereas the parties having contracted such marriages, and their issue may therefore be subject to many disabilities,— to quiet the minds,” &c. Now this preamble admits that there then were Protestant parsons or ministers duly ordained, who were authorized to solemnize marriage within any consecrated Protestant church or chapel ; and who they were, is clearly enough designated by the reference to consecrated churches or chapels, within which only, according to the laics of England at that time, could marriages be solemnized,— and there only by ministers duly ordained according to the rites and forms of the Church of England ; and this M 94 appendix, no. IV. interpretation is rendered even more clear by the subsequent parts and enactments of the same law, which confines the confirmation of mar- riages therein referred to, to persons who were under no canonical disability to contract matrimony. The canons of the Church of Eng- land, or such as were adopted by it, no reasonable man will dispute were these here referred to; thereby admitting their validity within the Province. Again, the same statute, for the purpose of facilitating the contracting of marriage in the Province, admits of the ceremony being performed according to the form prescribed by the Church of England by a Justice of the Peace, when neither of the parties reside within eighteen miles of any parson or minister of the Church of England; but so soon as there shall be five parsons or ministers of the Church of England severally incumbent or doing duty in their respective parishes or places of residence within any one district, then the authority given to the Justice of the Peace should cease. No notice of the existence of the ministers of any other denomination is taken here; and why are the ministers of the Church of England thus distinguished ? — obviously because they were the ministers of the Es- tablished Church ; and when resident within any district to the num- ber of five or more, their right to solemnize marriage should supersede all others ; — it was never thought necessary to make a like exception in favor of any other class of ministers. I shall now shortly advert to the acts passed authorizing the solemnization of marriage by ministers of other persuasions than those of the Church of England. The first of these is the 38, Geo. III. chap. 4, and that passed in the present reign extending the provisions of the former. It is enough for me to ask, when it was thought necessary to pass any law authorizing minis- ters of the Church of England to solemnize marriage in the Province of Upper Canada ? No such act was deemed requisite because, the Church of England is the Established Church throughout the British dominions, (Scotland excepted) and therefore its ministers carried with them the power wherever they went within those dominions to solem- nize marriage, in virtue of their ordination. Not so with respect to the ministers of any other denomination, and so thought the Legisla- ture of this Province, and therefore it passed the laws in question — incomplete nevertheless, the revision of which, I most earnestly recommend to those who are interested in their efficiency. The last act of our Legislature which I shall notice is one which, so far as it respects its bearing upon this question, is the most impor- tant of all — I mean the act u relative to the right of tithes within this Province” and which became a law in 1823 — having been reserved for the signification of His Majesty’s assent, and being one of the des- cription of bills which by the constitution it was necessary to lay upon the table of both Houses of the Imperial Parliament, before such as- sent could be given. This act declares that “ notwithstanding one seventh of the lands granted in the Province had been reserved for the support of a Protestant Clergy , doubts had been suggested that the tithe of the produce of land might still be legally demanded by the incumbent duly instituted , or Rector of any Parish , and it is therefore enacted, That no tithes shall be claimed, demanded or re- APPENDIX, NO. IV. « ° ceived by any ecclesiastical parson, rector or vicar of the I rotestant Church, within this Province.” Now this act plainly estab fishes two points; first, that the reserved lands were in lieu of tithes, and secondly, that they were set aside for the Clergy of the Church of England, they only being known or designated as parsons, rectors, or vicars. Further comment on the various statutes must be considered super- fluous, and I shall now pass to the last head of this branch ol my argument, by merely mentioning what will not, I believe, be denied by any lawyer, that to libel, or attempt to bring into disrepute the Liturgy of the Church of England is an indictable offence, while in like manner to treat the Confession of Faith of the former or doc- trines of any other Christian sect, (unless some scandal is thereby brought on the Christian religion) cannot find the like protection any where out of Scotland. And why is this? Because the Liturgy of the Church of England is recognized and established by law through- out the British dominions (Scotland excepted), and is therefore pro- tected from contempt or derision, in the same manner that the authority, power, and supremacy of the Crown is protected from msu or seditious attack. The truth is, that wherever the authority of the King of England extends, (Scotland excepted) the existence and pre- eminence of the Church of England accompanies it ; by the terms of the constitution, and in virtue of the coronation oath, the one cannot exist without the other. And here I will dismiss this part of the sub- ject, and proceed to others that have reference to expediency rather than richt. And in the first place it is contended that whether there be an established Church or not; there ought not to be one. I feel how incompetent I am to add any new arguments, to the numerous and powerful opinions that have been advocated by the most enlight- ened of all countries in opposition to this view; I merely recall to the recollection of hon. members a few of the more obvious reasons which are urged in favor of an established Church. And in the first place I will request hon. members to recollect that the connection of Church and State is to be traced to the earliest periods The Jewish religion, the foundation of our own, was identified with the state, the sovereign in fact reigned in virtue of its ordinances, and was bound to their observances; and upon the Christian dispensation, the first mo- narch that embraced its tenets, as was observed by my honorable f.iuid from Lanark, proclaimed it to be the religion of the state. The : great Constantine declared himself, by miraculous interposition, a convert to the religion of Christ, and whether sincere in his professions of con- version or not, he marched to battle and to conquest under the sign of the cross; and being established on the y vouched his sincerity in the faith he had avowed, by religion; through whose influence he had conquered, for the rest of ^ his life ; and from that period to the present throughout the w hole y' Christian world (with one exception) there has existed an cstabl.shed religion in every kingdom : at least I am not aware of any other ex- ception than that I have alluded to. And is it not right that it should be P so? if we believe in the supremacy of the Almightv, if we admit that by his permission kings reign and nations exist— if we acknow- 96 APPENDIX, NO. IV. ledge that from him we derive every blessing — and that by his power we are protected, can any government hope to prosper, that does not shew its reverence and its gratitude, by endeavouring to the utmost to sustain, cherish, and enforce obedience to those divine laws, upon which is based all human institutions — and without which they must perish ? It is true that human laws cannot always restrain the licen- tious practices of the profane, much less can it control the impious mind of man, but it should at least guard against all open avowal of infidelity — and in reverence of the Creator, shew at least a resolution to enforce obedience to his commandments, as far as man can control his fellow. In opposition to this reasoning it is said that the genius of the age is against all restraints upon the conscience whether of reli- gion or otherwise. And as a proof, it is declared that in England the people are anxious for a separation of church and state. Nothing can be more unfounded than this opinion — the people of England on the contrary are enthusiastically attached to the existence of the Estab- lished Church, and no one thing, as has been universally admitted, so powerfully conduced to the overthrow of the late Ministry as the no- tion that prevailed that it was inimical to the Church establishment. It may be recollected that about a year ago His Majesty addressed the Bishops in a speech emphatically declaring that he would sustain in its purity and efficiency the Established Church. I was in England at that time, and it is not easy to describe the enthusiasm with which this address was hailed throughout the kingdom — so much so that a prominent member of the House of Commons, opposed to the views of the King, stood up in his place and declared that “ the opinion of His Majesty had spread like wild-fire through the kingdom, and that he would be sustained by his subjects to an extent that convinced him, His Majesty’s then ministry could not exist.” And the truth of this prediction has been verified. The truth is, that the only unpopu- larity under which the Church in England suffers, is from the mode in which its means of support arc collected — if it were possible to sus- tain the Church there, in the same manner that we have it in our power to do here, we should hear of no complaints — happy would the people be if such means existed among them. There are, it is true, examples of the dissolution of the connection between Church and State — France affords the most conspicuous, and what are the lessons it teaches ? For years the disciples and teachers of atheism and infidelity, had taught their pernicious doctrines ; con- tempt and derision of all religious observances were the first fruits — next came clamorous complaint, and open defiance of the laws — revo- lution and bloodshed followed, and the fair fields of France, and of h^ I™ 08 ! beautiful countries in the world, were laid d es titute ; the religion of Christ was denounced, and the altars, dedicated to the worship of the Most High, were cast down and destroyed, and the ministers of His word were slaughtered, and their blood deluged the places sacred to the ordinances of the Almighty. This course of wickedness and impiety however, had its termination ; after a season men began to reflect on the consequences of their unchristian con- duct — reason and religion resumed their sway, and the worship of the 97 u APPENDIX, NO. IV. Almighty was once more restored, and in the re-establishment of His ordinances the throne sought its only certain protection and security. A neighbouring country has also been referred to as affording an example of a government existing without the support of an established religion. Of the constitution of the United States I would speak with the”greatest respect, but if I were to point out one proof, stronger than any other of the disadvantages, temporal as well as spiritual, arising from the want of an established religion among the people, i would” point to the example of that country. It is said that the de- claration of independence was drawn up by the late Mr Jefferson ; 1 so, the blot which above all others disfigures and disgraces that docu- ment, viz. the absence of all acknowledgment of a superintending Providence, and the want of any recognition of the duties of man to his Creator, may be accounted for by its being the work of one who was confessedly deeply imbued with the infidelity of Voltaire, Kous- seau, and others of the French school, whose writings, it is universally admitted, led to the Revolution, and horrible crimes that attended it in France. May British subjects keep the dreadful lesson constantly in remembrance, and avoid similar disastrous consequences. Writers of every political creed, are, for the most part agreed that the absence of an established religion in the United States, is a want that tends more than any other defect to render the government insecure; it wants the main pillar and support of all earthly governments, viz. the sup- port derived from a direct acknowledgment of the power of the Kin of kin^s, and the recognition on the part of the State, of the duty to yield obedience to his laws, and to punish the transgressors of us commands. The Church of England is abundantly tolerant, and the laws of the empire punish no man for his religious opinions, provided they are not offensively promulgated; but open denunciations of the Christian religion are not only punished because of our duty to shew our reverence to what is sacred, but to protect the community from the scandal of having the minds and feelings of the pious and virtuous outraged by open exhibitions of irreligious profligacy and blasphemy. The maintenance and protection of the Christian religion is a pi > *»- cble of our constitution, and must continue so while the monarchy exists It is otherwise in the United States; infidelity and blasphemy stalk abroad there, and are openly taught and . avowed without any no- tice being taken of these disgusting enormities by the civil magis trates— if' there be any truth in the predictions of holy writ, a dreadful punishment must, some day or other, fall upon a na ion u^ resrardless of its highest and most sacred duties. But if these exam pics of the opinions of men of other countries are adduced to estab- lish one side of the argument, it is proper « 8 J 0U “ b ™* n ^i n notice the not less valuable opinions of men of our own co™*y, 1 *»«*- u 1 APPENDIX, NO. IV. 99 plary duties, which are best calculated to dignify and render happy the whole human race, and who, but for that circumstance, might have turned their attention to pursuits that, comparatively speaking, would have conferred but little benefit on their fellow creatures. When also ministers are raised above dependence on the generosity of their flocks, they feel themselves more at liberty to preach the truth as it is, rather than as their congregation might wish it to be, than they would if their creed, and the support of their families depended on the capri- cious feelings of an uncertain multitude; and, besides, their having no motive to depart from purity of doctrine, and being fearless in the dis- charge of their duty, the parson or rector of the English Church, beimr established in one place, soon acquires a knowledge of each of his parishioners, his wants and his wishes ; he identifies himselt wi 1 the prosperity of each; he secures to himself their affection they look up to him not only as their spiritual guide, but as their friend and ad- viser — he becomes the arbiter of all their differences — the reconciler of their disputes, and the preserver of their peace and friendship : in all their difficulties they look up to him for advice, and in their afflic- tions they appeal to him as to a father. These are a few of the many advantages that result from a settled clergy, raised above the necessity of seeking support from charitable or other kinds of voluntary contri- butions. It has been by some asserted, that tithes in England are a heavy burthen upon the people. I will not argue this point, but 1 will venture to say, that the amount levied by various direct and indirect means in the United States for the support of the different ministers of religion, amounts to a far greater amount than is generally levied, probably greater in proportion for the number of inhabitants ot the country than are levied on the people of England. In fact, the whole country is spread over with persons asking support to this minister and to that ; and the amount thus collected, if report be true, is almost incredibly great; and when we come to enquire as to the manner in which these vast sums are applied, it will be found that in many in- stances it is given to defray the fixed salaries of the clergy, placing them as much as possible beyond the reach of chance for their support. This system is pursued by the British Methodists— and from the large funds they now possess, they are enabled to give their Missionaries an outfit, defray the expense of their passage to the places of destination, and when there to pay them a sum that maintains them in respecta- bility ; so that it will be found, that all denominations feel the impor- tance of having some settled support, and that they consider it no small disadvantage to their usefulness to be without it. Next, it is asserted that it is inexpedient to continue this approp tion because the people desire to do away with it— others say that all denominations of Christians should participate— and supporter o this bill contend that the whole reserves should be apphed to P™P°«« of education. For my own part, I have no proof that tbepeege de sire to do away with the grant set aside, by a gracious Sovereign, tor , f Church he had sworn to maintain throughout his 100 APPENDIX, NO. IV. England, an encrease that may be said to be greater than of any other description of Christians within the Province — the constant and press- ing demand for additional ministers, -and the vast influx of members of the Church from Great Britain and Ireland, I think it may be fairly augured that ere long it will be considered anything but popular to pursue this attack upon the property of the Church. Indeed, I have myself felt satisfied that the members of the Church of England far exceed in number what is generally imagined — in my opinion they rank next to, if not equal with the Methodists, and it would perhaps, be no exaggeration to say that 100,000 souls in this Province may be' pronounced as belonging to the Established Church. One fact may be adduced in some degree shewing the truth of this assertion. When I went to England two years ago I was the bearer of petitions from 7,000 inhabitants against any interference with Church property and these persons signed the petitions without any effort being made to obtain them, beyond fairly and truly explaining the object of these petitions, a course pursued in conformity with distinct instructions to that effect — and well assured am I, that if half the trouble had been taken to procure signatures to these petitions that were used to obtain them to addresses infinitely more exceptionable, that the number might have been doubled. As to the division of the reserves among all denominations, the thing is utterly impracticable, and the fancied evil of them belonging to our sect would not be remedied; give to all existing sects to-dayand those that spring up to-morrow will complain that their pretensions were not anticipated. They might be divided among two or three, and but for the unfortunate course which my hon. friend from Lanark has taken, the Kirk of Scotland might have participated, but he has destroyed the hopes they might have entertained ; and finding this to be the case, he has become forgetful of his own safety, and the rights of others — aiming at their destruction, he has brought a falling edifice upon his own head, and buried himself and his friends in the ruins. For my own part I have ever wished to see the Kirk of Scotland maintained and provided for from public resources— and if these have not been granted to a greater extent, the members of the Established Church are not to be blamed. With respect to the bill under consideration my present impression is that it is without the limits of our constitutional pow r er to pass it ; we are authorized to regulate the appropriation of our laws, but not to destroy or alienate the endowment. But apart from this, is it not most unreasonable to ask for the whole of these reserves for purposes of education can it be imagined that any such claim will be sanc- tioned ? I feel confident that it will not, because it ought not. Lands have to a large amount been already given for the education of the people of the country, and if more be required they must be sought tor in some other quarter than the reservation for the Church. 1 for- bear remarking upon the insulting language of the preamble and other parts of the bill — as being not worthy of grave consideration. And now Mr Speaker, I will ask why is the established Church thus assailed; can it be alleged against her that her Litany is not holy, u APPENDIX, NO. IV. 101 that her doctrines are not pure, that her practices or principles are in any respect reprehensible. It is not for human lips to pronounce the eulogy of the Church of England ; as well might we attempt to add dignity to the attributes of the Deity by the praises of mortal man. Again 1 will ask, are the ministers less pious, less learned, or less anxious for the spiritual welfare of their fellow men ; are they found to be intolerant, persecuting or bigoted ? are there any men more de- voted to the sacred duties of their calling? some exceptions may be found among them, as must be the case among all descriptions of per- sons ; but without vain boasting they may challenge comparison with any other class of Christian ministers, and this no persons are. more ready to admit than the respectable portion of the community, of whatever sect or denomination. I am aware that it has been alleged that in this country the Clergy of the Church of England have been found to mix themselves too much with political party; but in this as in every thing else the greatest injustice has been done them by those who seem to have taken delight in misrepresenting them. It has pleased the Sovereign to call to his Councils in this Province (without solicitation) one distinguished clergyman of the Church of England ; and because, in the necessary performance of duties thus imposed upon him, he has at times taken a part in the public business of the Province, he has been assailed with a virulence and malignity of enmity that has seldom been surpassed. But, Sir, the force of these assaults have long since been spent, and the justly beloved and honored object of unfounded and ungenerous reproach stands forth at this day with a character as spotless and fiee from stain as it had ever been. Often within my own knowledge has my respected friend been accused of promoting measures v\ hich, by some persons, were considered as injurious to the interests o t le country, when in truth he had used every exertion in his power to prevent them. But the enmity of man against his fellow requires no proof of any accusation, assertion true or false, will answer present purposes, ami that is all that is cared for. Happily, however, better times and better feelings have arisen ; it is beginning to be seen and understood that the Archdeacon of York interferes no further in pub- lic matters than such as are strictly required of him, and which relate to those great interests in the preservation of which he is particularly interested. His labors, untiring and unremitting, for the advancemen of education since he first placed his foot in this Province— the vast benefits he has in that respect conferred on the country his devotion to his sacred duties — his active benevolence — his almost unbounded charity — his hospitality — his goodness of heart* his rmness o friendship— and his unflinching integrity, are qualities too conspicuous in his character to be overlooked or denied ; and when it shallplease Divine Providence to remove Dr Strachan from this world of care and anxiety, lie will be followed to the grave by the tears of the widow and the fatherless, and of thousands and who looked up to him with gratitude as their benefactor and friend, -while his memory will be chewed with reverent.al respec by the good and the virtuous wherever he was known. I ought per 102 APPENDIX, NO. V. haps to apologize for what might seem a digression, but I could not restrain the humble tribute I have offered to the acknowledged merits of a valued friend. I shall now conclude these remarks by expressing an anxious but confident hope and belief, that the attempts now made to destroy the influence and usefulness of the Established Church in this land will prove abortive — for my own part I rest contented in the conviction that that which was bestowed for the wisest and holiest of purposes will be protected and maintained by the Author of all good, in despite of the bad passions of misguided men w^ho are seeking for its overthrow: and although the bitter waters of strife and envy are for a time let loose and are permitted to surround and rage against this heavenly edifice, it will withstand the assault, — its glory cannot be over- shadowed— its light cannot be extinguished, nor its influence destroyed, untd religion and morality shall have been overwhelmed and abolished, by the universal corruption of mankind. No. V. ( See page 50 . ) (From the Kingstou Chronicle and Gazette, May 9, 1835.) Clergy Reserves. Remarks on the Debates upon that Subject, by a Member of the Scottish Church, in Lower Canada. To the Editor of the Kingston Chronicle and Gazette. Sir — The debate on the Clergy Reserves Bill, in the House of As- sembly of your Province, which took place on the 4th, was inserted in your paper of the 25th and 28th of last month. As the subject is interesting here, as well as with you, I have read it attentively, par- ticularly the speech of the Solicitor General, who enters more fully into the subject than the other speakers and treats it as a legal ques- tion. hew, if any of his arguments are new, having appeared before in several anonymous publications ; but as they are now advanced and avowed by a gentleman holding a high official situation, whose opinion will no doubt have much weight with those who have not examined the question, I request room in your valuable paper to state opinions widely different from his ; and, though I do not feel equal to do jus- tice to the subject, yet what may be advanced on the other side will I doubt not, convince every unprejudiced and impartial mind, that his opinions are not well founded. His object is to prove, First — That the Church of England is the Estart- ts wrr» Church, in all the British dominions, Scotland only excepted • and Second That the lands directed to be set apart,Vy ^ Constitu- ) APPENDIX, NO. V. 103 tional Act, (31, Geo. 111. ch. 31) for the support of a “Protestant Clergy,” are destined by that Act solely for the support of the clergy of the English Church. I shall endeavour to examine, as briefly as possible, the authorities and arguments advanced by him in support of these doctrines, in the same order nearly as they occur in his speech. He first refers to, and quotes from, the Acts, 26, Henry VIII. ch. 1, and 1, Eliz. chap. 1. The object of these Acts, particularly the last, as stated even by himself, was to prevent any foreign power from exercising authority of any sort within the realm and the dominions that then did or afterwards might belong to the Queen and her suc- cessors. But it does not appear that this enactment bears upon the question of establishing the Church of England more than any other, in the Colonies. The Church of Scotland has never acknowledged nor permitted any foreign power to exercise jurisdiction, either spiritual or temporal, in that kingdom nor in the branches of her na- tional Church established in other parts of the British dominions. — And, though she does not admit or understand the King’s supremacy in the same sense as the Church of England does, by allowing him to prescribe to her forms of prayer, &c. yet as she does not recognize any head on earth superior to the King, and he sends a Commissioner every year to sit in the General Assembly of that Church, it must be allowed that she complies with the provisions of the 1st of Elizabeth, since no enactment was made before nor at the time of the Union with England, that ever I heard of, to relax the provisions of that Statute in favor of the Church of Scotland. It may, however, be mentioned as a curious fact, rather than of any importance in the present discus- sion, that the British Parliament, soon after the Union, passed an Act (10, Anne, ch. 7) by which Ministers of the Church of Scotland, as well as Episcopalian Ministers officiating there, are required to pray, once at least every Sunday, for the Queen, without prescribing the form of prayer, under a penalty of twenty pounds for the first neglect, and for future omissions there are more severe penalties. But it is believed this Act was occasioned by the conduct of the non-juring Episcopalians more than that of ministers of the Scottish Church ; for the latter were generally in favor of the Union, and by their modera- tion and firmness contributed much to bring it about.* With regard to the new Roman Catholic subjects in Canada : by the fourth article of the Treaty of Peace of 1763 — “ His Britannic Majesty, on his side, agrees to grant the liberty of the Catholic re- ligion to the inhabitants of Canada, &c, as far as the laws of Great Britain permit” And by the Act of 1774, (14, Geo. III. cap. 83) an oath of allegiance is prescribed, expressly for them and their de- scendants. So that it appears they comply in part with the Act of Elizabeth and it has been partly relaxed in their favor. Were it not that, by the Act of 1774 and also by our Constitutional Act, the -PtiesL cannot exact tithes from those who do not profess their religion, the Church of Rome would in fact be the Established Church in all * Sec De Foe’s History of the Union, pages 219, 235, 255 and 262. 104 APPENDIX, NO. V. the country parishes, at least, that were laid out and settled in 1774- Even as the law now stands, she seems to have as good or rather a better claim to that style and title than any other Church in the Canadas. The argument in favour of the Anglican Church drawn from the Act of Union (5, Anne, ch. 8,) is lame and inconclusive. One great fallacy lies, in Mr Hagerman giving (as others have done before him) to the word Territories , at the end of the coronation oath, an exten- sive signification which does not belong to it, so as to include, like the Act, first of Eliz. all the dominions or countries that then did or af- terwards should belong to the Crown of Great Britain. But, what- ever meaning may be assigned to the word as there used; is it possible to believe that the mere form or words of the oath can establish the English Church, or any other Church, in Territories where it was not previously established by some positive parliamentary enactment for that express purpose. After discussing the Articles of Union, the Scottish Parliament, apprehensive that their religious liberties might be in jeapordy when the British Parliament should be formed, where the Representatives of Scotland were to consist of a small minority only, passed an Act for “ securing the Protestant religion and Presby- terian Church Government,” in that Kingdom. In this act it is enacted, — “ And lastly, that after the decease of her present Majesty (whom God long preserve) the Sovereign succeeding to her in the Royal Government of the Kingdom of Great Britain, shall in all time coming at his or her accession to the Crown, swear and subscribe, that they shall inviolably maintain and preserve the foresaid settlement of the true Protestant religion, with the government, worship, discipline, rights and privileges of this Church, as above established by the laws of this Kingdom in prosecution of the claim of right.” In another section of the same act the following words occur, — “ declaring nevertheless, that the Parliament of England may provide for the security of the Church of England as they think expedient, to take place within the hounds of the said Kingdom of England” &c.* Afterwards, when the Articles of Union came to be considered in the English Parliament, they also passed an Act, “ for securing the . Church of England as by law established .” This act prescribes the form of the coronation oath, and as it has, in my opinion, been much misenterpreted or misunderstood, I give it at length. “ And be it fur- ther enacted,” &c. “ That after the demise of her Majesty (whom God long preserve) the Sovereign next succeeding to Her Majesty in the Royal Government of the Kingdom of Great Britain, and so for ever hereafter, every King or Queen succeeding and coming to the Royal Government of the Kingdom of Great Britain, at his or her Coronation , shall in the presence of all persons who shall be attend- ing, assisting, or otherwise then and there present, take and subscribe an oath to maintain and preserve inviolably the said settlement of the Church of England, and the doctrine, worship, discipline, and govern- * In this, and some other quotations, I have marked words as emphatical, though not so in the original, wishing them to be particularly noticed. APPENDIX, NO. V. 105 ment thereof, as by laic established within the Kingdoms of England and Ireland, the Dominion of Wales, and Town of Berwick-upon- Tweed, and the Territories thereunto belonging.” This act and that passed by the Scottish Parliament were engrossed with, and make part of, the* Act of Union between the two King- doms. . I must now refer to a very important part of the Act of Union, as applying to the Colonies generally, and which is not even mentioned by the Solicitor General ; namely, the fourth article, which is as fol- lows . “ That all the subjects of the United Kingdom of Great Britain shall, from and after the Union, have full Freedom and Intercourse of Trade and Navigation to and from any Port or Place within the said United Kingdom, and the Dominions and Plantations thereunto be- longing : and that there shall be a communication of all other Rights, Privileges, and Advantages, which do or may belong to the subjects ol either Kingdom ; except where it is otherwise expressly agreed in these Articles.” The most careless reader will notice the difference between Do- minions and Plantations used here, and Territories in the coronation oath ; and when words so different are used in the same Treaty or in- strument, they must have different significations. In this article. the words in question evidently mean Colonies, Provinces or Possessions at a distance beyond the seas, which are synonymous with Dominions and Plantations ; but I have not seen Territories used in the same comprehensive sense, in any act of Parliament. I shall now endeavour to shew that Territories , in the coronation oath, refers only to the Islands of Jersey, Guernsey, and perhaps other small Islands; the ancient Territories of England, ^before she had ac- quired more distant “Dominions and Plantations” beyond the seas. The only act of the English Parliament, before the Union, which can apply to Canada in religious matters, is the first of Elizabeth, on which the Solicitor General relies very much; he also refers with confidence to an act of the British Parliament (14, Geo. III. chap. 83,). But, after what has been said regarding these acts, really I cannot perceive how one or the other, or both together, can be said to establish the Church of England in Canada. Their chief object is to establish the King’s supremacy, in his own Dominions, to the exclusion of *ny °“ reign jurisdiction or power, and particularly that of the Pope of Rome. In "these Acts, supremacy is perhaps not clearly defined, or explained, but if His Majesty and the Cabinet Ministers are satisfied that his supremacy is duly maintained, surely none of his subjects have any reason to complain. . . . a ^ The Act of Union merely secures the Church of England as then by law established; but does not by any means extend it to places where it was not previously established; it has indeed been attempted by some to misconstrue the exception at the end of the i fourth Article, so as to signify that the religious establishment of the English Church in all the Colonies equally as in England, was excepted; but the 5th, 6th, 8th, and 11th Articles contain express stipulations in tavour ot 106 APPENDIX, NO. V. the subjects of one Kingdom, which are withheld from those of the other Kingdom, which sufficiently explains and accounts for that ex- ception. Besides, the words of the coronation oath can never, by im- plication merely, extend the Church establishment: for, to do so would require an express enactment or stipulation, in some of the other~ar- ticles, for that purpose. It is proper to consider the acts of the Eng- lish Parliament that are particularly referred to, and confirmed, by the Act of Union in order to see how far they extend or establish the English Church. These are the 13, Eliz. chap. 12, “ An Act for the Ministers of the Church to be of sound religion.” And 13 and 14, Charles II. chap. 4 — “ An Act for the uniformity of the Public Prayers,” &c. Also, “ all and singular other Acts of Parliament now in force for the establishment and preservation of the Church of Eng- land,” &c. On referring to 13, Eliz. it will be found that the preamble indeed, states — “ That the Churches of the Queen’s Majesty’s Do- minions may be served with pastors of sound religion, Be it enacted,” &c. But the dominions of England were then very small, there being none on this side of the Atlantic,* and no general words are used to extend the provisions of this Act to Dominions or Colonies that were acquired afterwards ; such as are inserted in the Act of Supremacy, already referred to. The other Act, 13, Charles II. is expressly limited in its operation to England , Wales , and the Town of Ber- wick-upon-Tweed. Also the Test Act (25, Charles II. chap. 2, now repealed or greatly altered) was confined in its operation to all persons holding any office, civil or military, in England , Wales , the town of Berwick-upon-Tweed , or in His Majesty’s Navy, or in the several islands of Jersey and Guernsey, Likewise in an Act passed some years after the Union, (1, Geo. I. statute 2, chap. 13) “ An Act for the further security of His Majesty’s Person and Government,” &c. by sections 2 and 3, the oaths and declarations, to be taken and made in England, are not required farther than in Jersey and Guernsey , and by Officers of the Army and Navy. From these acts it appears that the Church of England is at least partly, if not fully, established in these two islands, and, as they are not named in the coronation oath, it is evident that the word “Territories” is introduced to include them and any other small islands or places where that Church was con- sidered to be established ; for the Union as we have already seen, merely secured the Church Establishment, but did not extend it to places where it was not previously established. At the commencement of his speech, Mr Ilagerman says he believes the subject has not heretofore undergone much discussion. This is a mistake, for it appears that in New York and New England, when they were British Provinces, at least eighty years ago, the doctrine was stoutly contended for, that the Church of England was the Es- tablished Church there and in the Colonies generally. Mr Smith took the other side of the question, and in his History of New York * The first attempt to plant a Colony in America was made in 1583 or 1584: about the 25th or 26th year of this reign. See Ency’a. Brit’a. 4th edition, article — Raleigh. 107 APPENDIX, NO. V. (part 6, chap, iv.) published first in 1756, has refuted the chief part of Mr Hagerman s arguments. Indeed much of what I now advance, is only the ideas and arguments of Mr Smith, but not so fully and for- cibly expressed as in his work. After speaking of our Constitutional Act, the speaker adds — “ The Church of England was already established, it was a consequence of Canada becoming one of the territories of the British Crown, and the only object of the Statute was to give effect to its usefulness.” He then speaks of the Bishop of Nova Scotia having previously exercised spiritual jurisdiction and power in Canada, which was founded on no statute. Soon afterwards he puts these questions — “In the first place, by what authority did His Majesty authorise the installation and ap- pointment of a Bishop to the Diocese of Quebec, if the power did not belong to him as the head of the church which he had sworn to maintain ^throughout all his dominions ; and having exercised this power, under what law does the Bishop act, and from what laws does he derive his ecclesiastical power?” He then gives the following an- swer to his own questions — “ Clearly from the laws and canons of the Church of England, which declare the Church of England to be the established Church throughout the British dominions.” From the interpretation given by the Solicitor General to the coro- nation oath, I cannot help having doubts of his accuracy in what he says of the “ laws and canons of the Church of England more es- pecially as he neither quotes them nor informs us where they are to be found. But, in whatever terms they may be couched, they can be of no force or validity in Canada, except it be in a spiritual sense, un- less confirmed and extended to this country by some Act of Parlia- ment; as will hereafter be shewn. In the above quotation, a doctrine, assertion, or principle is advanced, supposed to be derived from the common law of England. Though it is not new, yet the best autho- rity for it, that has come to my knowledge, is a pamphlet published in London, about twelve or thirteen years ago, and signed a member of Parliament. It is there more neatly expressed, “The conquest of the country carried the King’s religion with it. This doctrine was advanced in New York, about 1753, and was denied and refuted by Mr Smith, in his History of that Province, already referred to. What he says on the subject is too long to find a place here ; suffice it to mention, that, among other reasons to shew its absurdity, he points out as a consequence of its adoption, that if colonies were planted or acquired when the English nation and their King were pagans, or papists, the religion established in such colonies must be paganism or popery !* ijuuci yi . It is proper and requisite to refer also to Blackstone s Commen aries (vol. i. page 106, 107,). In speaking of “Jersey, Guernsey, bark, Magazine, in which he was produced. stated to be the greatest law character America ever 108 appendix, no. V. Alderney, and their appendages;” among other particulars he states, « They are not bound by common acts of our parliament, unless par- ticularly named.” Now as these Islands and their appendages are not named in the coronation oath, is it not plain that the word is added so as to include them? He then goes on to treat of our more distant plantations in America and elsewhere; and classes them into two sorts ; — those that are claimed by right of occupancy and peopled from the mother country ; and those that have been either gained by conquest or ceded to us by treaties ; m this class Canada is included. Having laid down the law regarding the first class, he pro- ceeds to the second class of colonies, as follows: “But in conquered or ceded countries, that have already laws of their own, the king may indeed alter and change those laws ; but, till lie does actually change them, the ancient laws of the country remain, unless such as are against the law of God, as in the case of an infidel country. Our American plantations are principally of this latter sort, being obtained in the last century either by right of conquest and driving out the na- tives (with what natural justice I shall not at present enquire) or y treaties. And therefore the common law of England, as such, has no allowance or authority there; they being no part of the mother country, but distinct (though dependent) dominions. They are sub- ject however to the control of the Parliament; though (like Ireland, Man, and the rest) not hound by any Acts of Parliament, unless ^Tn'regtrftoTe power formerly exercised in Canada by the Bishop of Nova Scotia, I am not aware whether it was or was not conferred by statute ; but, being a spiritual power, as admitted in the speech (and from the account of his visit to this Province in 1789, it seems to have been nothing more*) he might perhaps hold it from the Royal authority only. However, it must be borne m mind that the Minis- ters of his Church in Canada received their chief support then, as I believe they do still, from the Society for propagating the Gospel in foreign parts; and, had any of them hesitated to submit to his autho- rity his representations to that Society would, doubtless, have brought them to submission, by curtailing or withholding altogether their salaries. Ecclesiastical or spiritual courts and jurisdictions, unless aided by the civil power, are very feeble ; and in many cases require such assistance, “in repressing the insolence of contumacious delin- quents, and rescuing tlicir jurisdiction from that contempt, which for want of sufficient compulsive powers would otherwise be sure to at- tend it.” . . Possibly the Bishop of Nova Scotia may possess all requisite pow- ers in his own diocese, by the same means as he could heretofore exercise them in Canada; but I am confident he has more power there than ever he had here ; if not by British Statutes, at least by provin- cial acts. For a law passed in that Province, so long a g° a $ 1758, enacts, “ That the sacred rites and ceremonies of Divine worship, ac- cording to the Liturgy of the Church established by the laws of Eng- * See the Canadian Magazine for 1825, article, Christ's Church, Montreal APPENDIX, NO. V. 109 land, shall be deemed the fixed form of worship, and the place wherein such liturgy shall be used, shall be respected and known by the name of the Church of England, as by law established. Provision is made at the same time for the liberty of conscience of those who do not belong to that communion. The clergy of that Church, however, claimed, and it seems still enjoy, the exclusive privilege of marrying by licence ; an attempt, in 1818, to extend it to other clergymen hav- ing proved abortive.* Mr Hagerman answers his query, respecting the appointment, &c. of the Bishop of Quebec, in his own way ; but I am not of his opinion. I have not seen nor can readily have access to the Royal Letters Patent, appointing him : on looking, however, at our consti- tutional act, section 40, the construction I put on it is, — that it gives the King the same power in Canada which he possesses in England, of appointing the Bishop of Nova Scotia, or any other person, to “Spiritual and Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction and Authority,” &c. “accord- ing to tho Laws and Canons of the Church of England, which are lawfully made and received in England.” Were the Church of Eng- land established here, in the sense contended for by the speaker, would not this clause be superfluous ? But farther, Letters Patent were issued, dated at Quebec the 12th August, 1818, a copv of w r hich is now before me ; “ erecting the Protestant Episcopal Church of Montreal in Notre Dame Street, into a Parish or Rectory, and appointing a Rector to the same,” &c. &c. In these Letters Patent the 38th Section of our Constitutional Act is recited as the authority on which they are granted. Now it is not credible, nor can I bring myself to believe that the King could erect an extensive Diocese and appoint the Bishop, merely on his own authority as head of the Eng- lish Church ; yet that he required an act of Parliament to enable him to erect a rectory and appoint a rector to the same ! It is proper to notice, that, in the “ Act for securing the Church of England as by law established,” at the Union; previous Acts of Parliament only, are referred to and confirmed, but not a word is said of the common law . The reason is obvious ; because the com- mon law had established the Church of Rome; for though Christianity be part of the common laic,' [ yet the establishment of the present Church of England rests altogether on the statute law. The opinions of the Solicitor General cannot, therefore, derive any strength or support from maxims supposed to be drawn from the common law. One of his arguments I do not remember to have met with before, namely, “ that to libel or attempt to bring into disrepute the Liturgy of the Church of England is an indictable offence,”— that it is so in * Halliburton’s Nova Scotia, published in 1829: vol. ii. page 298 to 302. England, by Statutes'!, Ed. VI. and 1, Eliz. is beyond a doubt; but these ct.tntnc do not. extend to the colonies, and if such be at present f Blackstone Com. vol. iv. page 59. o 110 APPENDIX, NO. V. ch. 83, sec. 11) which confirms the use of the criminal law of England, in this country, where it had been administered for more than nine years, and enacts that it “ shall be observed as law in the Province of ^ confirmation of this and other points already advanced, I refer to the Book of Common Prayer itself, where it will be found, that the Forms of Prayer and service, made for the 5th November, 30th January, 29th May and 25th October were, at the accession of George ill. ordered to be used yearly, in all Churches, &c. &c. “within that part of our Kingdom of Great Britain called England, the Dominion of Wales, and town of Berwick-upon-Tweed.” Likewise at the accession of George IV. and his present Majesty, a similar order was issued for Prayers and sen ice in all churches, &c. “within those parts of our United" Kingdom called England and Ireland.” These orders follow the forms of prayer and service ; the two last include Ireland, being then united to Great Britain: they are signed by the Secretaries of State for the Home Department ; but none of them extend even to the ancient “Territories” of Jersey and Guernsey, much less to “ Dominions and Plantations” beyond the seas. The 5th November and 29th May are fixed as Holidays by Acts of the English Parlia- ment, for the security of their Church, before the Union ; but if they had been extended by the Union according to the Solicitor General’s opinion, as I understand him, they would be in force here and in the other colonies. . , For the sake of further illustration and confirmation ot what lias been stated relative to ecclesiastical affairs, I refer to two Acts of the British Parliament during the reign of George III. ; the titles of which are sufficient for my purpose. The first is of the 26th year, chap. 84, “ An Act to impower the Archbishop of Canterbury or the Arch- bishop of York , for the time being, to consecrate to the office of a Bishop, persons being subjects or citizens of Countries out of His Majesty’s Dominions.” The second is of the 59th year, chap. 6 ; in which the Bishop of Quebec is also mentioned ; it is entitled, “ An Act to permit the Archbishops of Canterbury and York , and the Bishop of London , for the time being, to admit persons into Holy orders specially for the Colonies.” Thus it is evident that, though the King be head of the English Church, yet he cannot authorise even its Dignitaries to enlarge or extend the exercise of their spiritual or ecclesiastical functions, without an act of Parliament to impower and permit them to do so ! The speaker refers to the Debates in the House of Commons, when our constitutional act was under consideration ; but does not attach much importance to this argument. Neither do I, for the speakers appear to have been of different opinions as to the meaning and intention of some parts of the Bill ; besides we are not certain that their speeches are correctly reported. It was during this debate that the difference arose between Mr Burke and Mr Fox, which was never made up ; and the reporters appear to have been more solicitous' to 2 ive the particulars of that difference than what related to the Quebec Bill, which was not so interesting to the public. We have now the APPENDIX, NO. V. Ill Bill as it passed into a law, and must be governed thereby, unless it contends dost, b, that set, the Clergy Kcservc f« “* Church of EngUnd only , but Ms U . forced Stasis- *- *• L S n0t tenf d 6 als S o to clergymen of the Scottish Church, (if any are Stttodn Canada.) yet £ .cans ” sKSSfflf ministers of Dissenting^ Pro es ^ * on ° sti tuted or erected in any clause, when a parsonage ^ " or rectory may be endowed with township or ^parish, such p ° riated in J at township or parish." the whole lands allotted an \ l 1 . . incumbent This being a ***^^'$5 eft San those mentioned in on his Majesty to retain, y dg> 1 The opinion of the Com- that clause, any proportion of s > opin ; 01 ], i s also in favor of mittee, though not professing v 'hsh church: but' with respect the endowment of the lands generally, they are of to the proceeds or revenue , • u* to apply the money, it they opinion that the Government has the light to app y * Act of think fit, to any Protestant Cler^. I roust agar p arliament Union, where you will see iuwnt (which is incorporated into for securing their Church Establishment, (wruen ^ the Act of Union,) that Establishment is ter n ^ ^ ^ timeg ^ the tant Religion, and these wot _ s jj f England, her establishment act. In the act for securing the Church « * . ^ ’ s0 often is also termed “the True Protestant Rel^on, teo of repeated ; but no other c lure i es ^ y n j on> yet some have stoutly Christians are mentioned in ‘ ^.J m| apt? the wor ds “ a Protestant maintained, that, in our ^ Church only. In some parts ot Clergy,” mean Clergy ot "Z Protestants is used Ireland, as I have been ‘"' lish Church ; but that is no rule it always means members ot the * 0 p arliament . Our constitutional for the right understanding ot Acts ^ ^ relig - 10US matters : section act, from section 35 to 42, rela y & of the enC ouragement 35 recites part of the Act of 1774 , whicn P 'SS ■ 1 12 APPENDIX, NO. V'. of the “ Protestant Religion,” and “ support of a Protestant Clergy within the said Province.” The words 44 a Protestant Clergy,” occur frequently in these clauses, as a general term to include other clergy besides those of the English Church ; for when the latter are meant it is expressed so clearly as not to be mistaken ; they are called Ministers of the Church of England, sometimes Incumbents or Ministers. It is necessary to be thus minute and particular, to show that the English Church can have no legal claim to the whole of the lands reserved for the support of “a Protestant Clergy.” The encouragement of the 44 Protestant Religion,” is the object of these enactments, as just pointed out ; and we have also seen that, by the Act of Union, both the Churches of England and Scotland are estab- lished in Great Britain as the true protestant religion . Protestant was also used previously, as a general term in Acts of the English Parliament: for, in the oaths prescribed by 1st Will, and Mary, the Sovereign promises to maintain the “ Protestant Reformed Religion,” and the succession was then considered as limited to the Protestant line; another act was afterwards passed, (12 and 13, Will. III. c. 2,) 46 for the further limitation of the Crown,” &c. In this act it is explicitly declared that the succession shall be in the Protestant line; but that term being, apparently, too general to designate the religion of the Sovereign, it is enacted in a subsequent clause, 44 That whoso- ever shall hereafter come to the possession of this Crown, shall join in communion with the Church of England , as by law established.” Another argument has sometimes been brought forward in favor of the exclusive claim of the English Church, but it does not appear in Mr Hagerman’s Speech ; perhaps because it is very lame : however it may be as well to notice it — namely : that men in Holy Orders in the Scottish Church are not called clergy or clergymen , but preachers or ministers . The clergymen of both churches are often called ministers, in conversation and also in Acts of Parliament : those of Scotland are styled 44 Clergy of Scotland,” in the title of an Act regarding them, (48, Geo. HI. ch. 138,) and in another Act, (50, Geo. III. chap. 84,) in sections 15 and 16, the words 44 Clergy' of Scotland,” occur three several times. I consider it proper to advert also to another argument which has been lately adduced, (by whom I have forgotten,) though not in the speech under consideration. It is to this effect, that the claim of the English Church has not, until very lately, been called in question, and therefore a sort of prescriptive right or title is supposed to be thereby acquired. On this it may be observed, that these reserved lands produced no re- venue for many years and were scarcely thought of by the public or by any person. Until in June, 1820, when it was announced in the official Gazette at Quebec, that a* corporation had been erected for managing these reserves, composed of the Bishop and Clergy of the Church of England in the Province. This opened the eyes of the public, and ever since, on all proper occasions, the Members of the Scottish Church in Canada have not ceased, by petitions and other means, to raise their voice against the injustice of this exclusive claim set up by the Church of England. This corporation was created by a Commis- APPENDIX, NO. V. 113 sion under the public seal of this Province ; and as stated by Mr Stephen, Counsel to the Colonial Department, “ it has always been doubted whether the Governor had any strict legal right to issue such a commission.”* This gentleman gives an interpretation to the above clauses more favorable to the claim of the Scottish Church, than some other lawyers who have been consulted; but still it is more in favor of the English Church than any other : and our Provincial Legislatures and Governors have, at different times, carried their partiality to that Church still farther than the Act will warrant, which Mr Hagerman considers as an argument that it is the Established Church of Canada. This partiality may be accounted for from the opinions formerly held by some persons in the British Colonies, (now the United Sta es,) though refuted by Mr Smith, as above stated. These opinions were entertained, as was said, by the first Governor of your Province, and it is believed also by subsequent Governors and by some ot the Civil Officers of Government, just as they are now maintained by your Solicitor General ; and, in the infancy of the Colony, the influence of the Governor and his legal advisers must have had great, and no doubt have still very considerable, weight in the Legislature. But the Pro- vincial Legislature is not to be considered good authority on this point, for it appears they have, in several instances, overstept the limitations and restrictions imposed upon them in matters regarding religion by the 42d clause of the Act; of which there is only a very short and partial quotation given in the Solicitor General s Speech. For besides what he quotes, they are also restrained from legislating definitely on “any provisions which shall in any manner relate to or affect the enjoyment or exercise of any religious Form ot Mode ot Worship, or shall impose or create any Penalties, Burthens, Disabilities, or Disqualifications in respect of the same. Fet, m the face of this explicit and positive restriction, your Legislature passed an Act in 1828 19, Geo. IV. chap. 2,) Disabling and Disqualifying certain “Religious Societies” from holding more than five acres of land for any one congregation. Among these Societies, under the name of Presbyterians, is of course included congregations of the Scottish Church, one of the Churches established by law in Great Britain.-— Now Mr Stephen, in his examination above referred to, says 1 apprehend that the King might, if it should so please him, appropriate in perpetuity a certain portion of land for the sustentation of one or more English clergymen, or of one or more Presbyterian clergymen of the Church of Scotland,” And, in answer to the next question, he adds— “ Out of the one-seventh.” Were the King of his bounty to do so, would not this Act have the effect of disabling - the Matter clergymen from holding or enjoying more than! J^thev wiH ' I believe a careful examination of the other Provincial b e found notch of the = ^ dtTef.hS” 'Zl. till oof bear: for, in .be (.eatable -a Protest.,: * See his evidence before the Committee of the Commons, on the Civil Government of C oada, the 21st June, 1828. 114 APPENDIX, NO. V. Clergy” is mentioned, and in the enacting part, “the Protestant Church,” both of which he restricts to the English Church ; but I have shown, from the best authority, namely, Acts of Parliament, that the Scottish Church is also Protestant and her ministers a Protestant Clergy . In fact, these Acts, instead of proving what Mr Hagerman wishes to infer from them, only prove, in my opinion, that the Provin- cial Parliament, at different periods, evinced a strong desire, beyond its legitimate authority, to make the English Church in reality, The Established Church of Canada, a title or name which she first assumed publicly in this country, I think a little more than thirty years ago. On reading the Constitutional Act, and the opinion of Lawyers upon it, I must admit that, though it does not fix the English Church as The Established Church of Canada, yet it is much more favorable to the establishment of that Church than to the Church of Scotland. This I consider as an infringement of the fourth article of Union between the two Kingdoms ; by a fair interpretation of which, the latter Church is entitled to all “ Rights, Privileges, and Advantages,” which are enjoyed by the former in the colonies ; and more especially in Canada, which never was an English colony, but was acquired long after the Union, by the blood and treasure of Great Britain and Ireland.* This view of the matter probably did not occur to the British Parliament, and their attention was not directed to it by the debates ; otherwise we may suppose, some provisions of the Act would have been different ; the present Parliament, however, can at any time repeal or amend the acts of former Parliaments. Its strict legal right to repeal or amend any part of the Act of Union cannot, therefore, be called in question : but, I have so much confidence in the good faith, equity and justice of the British or Imperial Parliament, that I am convinced it has not done so intentionally, nor ever will ; unless upon some urgent necessity, or for the benefit rather than injury of the weaker party; and then it will not be done by implication or what may be called a side wind, but in clear explicit words, not to be mistaken ; such as have been used already, when amendments were made to the Act of Union. Having now considered the chief points on which I differ from your Solicitor General, I must in justice own that I agree entirely with him in the advantages to be derived from “a settled and permanent provision for the Clergy,” in opposition to some of the other speakers who refer to the days of our Saviour and the Apostles, and talk of Ministers “ who were called by the Holy Ghost to the Ministry,” as if we were to expect to see miracles in these our days, the same as in the first dawn of Christianity. Considerable assistance may no doubt be expected and relied on from voluntary contributions or pew rents, but some other and certain support should also be provided by law. * The following is the substance or meaning of the 4th article, as given in Judge Blackstone’s Cora. vol. i. page 96 — “ There shall be a communication of all rights and privileges between the subjects of both kingdoms, except where it is otherwise agreed.” APPENDIX, NO. V. 115 I agree with him also that, in this Christian country, the Government cannot be sure and stable, unless it be founded on Christianity ; but I do not run into the extreme of believing, as he appears to do, that there cannot be more than one Church established under the same Government. Certain great essential truths of Christianity are acknowledged and believed by all Christians : the Apostles’ creed is taught in the same or synonymous words, in the catechisms of the Churches of Rome, England and Scotland. Many persons appear to be of opinion that there must neccessarily be some one Church established in the Colonies, to overshadow every other, as is the case in England. This has always apeared to me an erroneous opinion : there are two churches equally well established in different parts of Great Britain, and there seems nothing to prevent two or more from being established here, even in the same County or Township, so far as anv Church requires to be established in the Colonies neverthe- less, the stability of the Colonial, as well as the Imperial Government, must still depend on the great truths of Christianity in which all Christians agree. This is so forcibly expressed by a well known author, that no apology is required for quoting his words. “ Doubt- less the preservation of Christianity, as a national religion, is, abstracted from its own intrinsic truth, of the utmost consequence to the civil state : which a single instance will sufficiently demonstrate. The belief of a future state of rewards and punishments, the enter- taining just ideas of the moral attributes of the Supreme Being, and a firm persuasion that he superintends and will finally compensate every action in human life (all which are clearly revealed in the doc- trines, and forcibly inculcated by the precepts, of our Saviour Christ) these are the grand foundation of all judicial oaths ; which call God to witness the truth of those facts, which perhaps may be only known to Him and the party attesting: all moral evidence therefore, all confidence in human veracity, must be weakened by irreligion, and overthrown by infidelity. In the Canadas we see that persons who are members ot all the three Churches above mentioned, fill the places of Legislators, Judges and other civil Offices; and, if my information be correct, the person who was Speaker of your House of Assembly a few years ago, does not belong to either of these Churches: whereas in England, ! ,ntl1 , a very few years ago, these offices were required by law to be filled by members 'of the English Church. Is it not then something ^hke usmg words without meaning, to say that the English Church is the Estab- lished Church in the Canadas? I beg leave here to remark, t la , in my opinion, the Ministry allowed the Royal prerogative to be too much restricted and restrained by the Constitutional Act; for, if I understand it rightlv, the King cannot endow or set apart any land for a Roman Catholic Clergyman or congregation. This appears more strange and incongruous since the Catholic emancipation bill passed . n i i k- u the Kind’s prerogative is now so far unshackled, Slay* ft “••• t;:*. aT,". Catholic Governors in these Provinces; but I have not the Act present by me. 116 ATPENDIX, NO. V. Though I have, to the best of my ability, treated the claims of the Church of Scotland as a legal question only, yet much may also be said in their favor on the score of equity and sound policy ; but this part of the subject I must leave to others better qualified for the task; besides you will perhaps find this communication already too long. — Throughout I have avoided touching on the claims made to a share of the Clergy Reserves by dissenters from the English and Scottish Churches : it is not my business to plead their cause, neither have I said aught against them. The Solicitor General’s eulogy on the Church of England requires no comment; neither is it necessary to make remarks on his panegyric upon the Archdeacon of York, who has been called to the Councils of his Sovereign in your Province. This circumstance, however, gives me an opportunity of noticing the injudicious exercise of the Royal prerogative in calling clergymen to the Councils. The present Bishop, like his predecessor, is a member of the Legislative and Executive Councils in both Canadas, and of course also a Judge in the Court of Appeals, besides holding some other offices : and the Archdeacon of York holds the same high offices in your Province. — These appointments have, in my opinion been productive of much jealousy and distrust, and have been followed by consequences inju- rious to the peace and quiet of both Provinces. One would imagine that these Dignitaries of the English Church would find full employ- ment in a Diocese of such wide extent, by attending to their clerical duties alone, without being occupied with matters so foreign to their vocation as clergymen. The truth seems to be, that these appoint- ments have been made from a desire in the Executive Government to copy too closely after the practice in England (not in Scotland) without considering that our Constitution of Government is merely analogous or similar to, not the same as, that of England. The Legislatures of the Canadas have probably also fallen sometimes into error from the same cause. “ An abundant source of error as to all Colonial affairs, is too servile a reference to the proceedings of the Government in England, as a model, without bearing in mind the marked difference which exists between the society there and here,” &c. It is a remarkable and very interesting fact, that the inconvenience and bad policy of investing clergymen with temporal power in the Colonies, particularly Colonies circumstanced as the Canadas are, w^as foreseen and pointed out, more than eighty years ago, by Archbishop Seeker. The scheme proposed by him was, that tw r o Bishops should be sent to reside in the British North American Colonies (now the United States) in some of the Provinces where the Church of Eng- land was established or was the prevailing Church ; that they should occasionally visit other parts, but “ have no concern in the least with any persons who do not profess themselves to be of the Church of England that they should confirm members of that Church, ordain Ministers, “ and take such oversight of the Episcopal Clergy” as had been previously done by the Bishop of London’s Commissaries in those parts. These were the only powers he proposed to be exercised by APPENDIX, NO. VI. 117 the Bishops in America.* In the “ Review of his Grace s life and character,” prefixed to his works which were published, by his Chaplains, Dr Porteous and Dr Stinton, it is stated that this intended mode of establishing Bishops in America, was no new scheme ‘ to serve a present turn, being precisely the same with that proposed by Bishop Butler twenty years ago” Had Mr Pitt, and others of the King’s Ministers, been aware of the opinion entertained by iese eminently distinguished men, they surely would have paid some attention to it in placing a Protestant Bishop in Canada ; particularly as it is a subject with which those Prelates must have been more conversant than Mr Pitt or any other Minister can be, and more competent to form a correct judgment of the powers necessary to be exercised by Bishops in the Colonies. , • In conformity with Mr Hagerman’s recommendation at the. begin- ning of his speech, I have endeavoured to consider and examine ns opinions calmly and dispassionately; and now conclude, with a farm reliance on the sentiment expressed by him, that it m V st ^ e P e P the force of truth and argument to decide which of us is right in our opinions and which is wrong. Lower Canada , April , 1835 . No. VI. ( See page 51 . ) Speech of Mr Hagerman, Solicitor General; on the Rectories. House of Assembly of Upper Canada, in Committee, Feb. 9 , 1837 . (From tlie Brock ville Statesman* of 4th March.) n nvI , B . T Qoid he should not have risen thus early ^\ S °1 L } C t T °lricUt not been for the observation which fell from the m the debate, had d to w hi c h he would enter his decided bon. gentleman from will in n0 respect affect the protest ; namely, t ricrsv Reserves, he (Sol.) considered settlement of the question of 1 ^ ^ that it strikes at the very arrangement contemplated these Resolutions should be adopted, g ^ be gla( , if would be at an end. ( ) • ^ ^ w ith the nature of the con- . D, u » -S' STtfS S«5 '5 Orfort 1 * « i" »“«• b * “■ — ■*“ h ” 118 APPENDIX, NO. VI. \nd for what purpose ? Was it for the purpose of putting down an Established Church, and placing all persuasions upon the same footing? No such thing. (Hear, hear.) It was for the purpose of gaining for the Church of Scotland one half the Reserves in question, and withholding all participation from ever.y other denomination. (Hear, hear.) That was the object. Now, it would be found that the same principle was attempted to be palmed upon the House of Assembly and the people of Upper Canada, under the false cloak of impartiality, and under the pretence that they are asking equal rights for all denominations. Sir, if the original proposition had been carried, you would have had three Established Churches instead of one, and then you would have had the hon. gentleman from llussell standing up and resisting any interference with the rights of the Church of Scotland, as stoutly as he now denies the rights of the Church of England. This was the origin of the discussion, and it is the principle which still promotes it. Does not the Church of Scot- land claim to be an Established Church co-ordinate with the Church of England. The hon. gentleman has too much candour to deny it. Againf with respect to the hon. gentleman from Glengarry. Suppose the Pope had heard him arguing against Church Establishments: why, he would have been excommunicated. (Hear, hear.) [Mr McDonell said he did not wish to be misunderstood it was the undue exercise of a spiritual jurisdiction by one Church over another, which he com- plained of.] The hon. gentleman’s impetuosity overcomes his reason, I tell him that the Roman Catholic Church is an Established Church in some parts of this Province, because they are authorised by law to levy tithes. The hon. gentleman also said, he looks upon it as odious that clergymen of those Churches which are not recognized by law, * should be allowed to solemnize marriage. I will not go out of my way to enquire whether a marriage by a Roman Catholic clergyman of two Protestants, would be a good and lawful marriage. [Mr McDonell would like to hear the hon. and learned Solicitor, before he goes any further, say whether, in his opinion, such a mar- riage would be legal.] I am not to be thus interrupted, I am defend- ing him and his Church, therefore, I am a better Catholic than he is. (Hear, hear.) We cannot make a Church less an Established Church by declaring that it is not one. But I tell you, the Church of England will be the Established Church in this Province, in spite of the efforts of her enemies. As for the Church of Scotland, she has no more right than the Methodists ; what is more, they will find it to be so, and will be at last obliged to content themselves and submit. They have to go to the Quarter Sessions to obtain permission to solemnize marriage, and if they were to omit doing so, and I were Attorney General, I would indict them. (Hear, hear.) By the Act of Union the Church of Scotland was confined to the Kingdom of Scotland. When George the third came to the throne, what was the oath he took? It was, that he would defend and preserve the Church of Scotland, within Scotland, and the Church of England (Where?) Why, in England, Ireland, Wales, Berwick-upon-Tweed, and in all the Dependencies of Great Britain ; Canada was a Dependency of 1 VJ APPENDIX, NO. VI. 119 Great Britain, therefore, in Canada was the Church of England alone to be the Established Church. When George the fourth ascended the throne his oath comprised the same thing, and also that of William the fourth. Does the Act of Union alter this? quite the reverse : it re-enacts the provisions of the statute of Elizabeth regarding this matter. Now, the absurdity of any member of the Church of Scotland, standing up and pretending to advocate the claim of that Church to be an Established Church in this Province, must be evident to any disinterested, ingenious and candid nnnd. Now, is there any Presbytery which has the power of ordination? (Yes.) r o there is not ; and I am glad the hon. and learned Speaker says yes, because I shall be happy to hear him undertake to make good the assertion. I am perfectly persuaded that the majority of the House are not assembled here for the purpose of advocating the claims ot the Church of Scotland. If they pass these resolutions they will declare their willingness to place that Church over all others except the Church of England. This is the end and aim of the members of that Church. [Here the Sol. General read a petition of the Rev. Mr Rintoul; upon which Mr Thomson rose and said, that whoever placed a copy of that petition in the hands ot the hon. and learned Sol. General, it did not redound much to Ins credit. The Solicitor said he protested against the right of any hon. member to withhold from thaf House any information which he might possess on a subject of this nature. Mr Thompson denied that he had been guilty of any dereliction of duty in withholding the petition from the House, because it had not received the sanction of the General Synod.] Mr Sol. General replied that he had no doubt he withheld it from conscientious motives, and because he disapproved of it, but would he be told that when a document was put into Ins hands, a document which has for its object the destruction of the Church of which he was a member, would it be said that he was not at liberty to expose it? He affirmed that the Church of Scotland was endeavouring to n errunt the course of proceeding which the House had already decided upon for the purpose of resisting the progress of a measure which was intended to place the matter upon such a footing as would satisfy all classes of the community. \\ hen lie saw such discords attempted to be introduced, it could not but make h.s blood boil with indignation. (Hear, hear.) You may give up your Rectories, and ° • n vour Clergy Reserves, but the Church of England CtTefhe Muhed £rch. (Hear, 1, or.) I< . not in the must be tnew to say that, that which has been made power of the Leg -j p ar H ame nt, can be put down in any universal by act 1 Grrat Britain. Do hon. gentlemen Colon, belonging it. th< . Crown of of suppose that t e °' c ^ £ Scotland? — he cannot do it. What the Qergy Land to the Church t thege Rect ories, you give the do the petitions assert -that bycrea ^ jurisdiction ovcr other Clergy of the Cffiirqh ^ this assertion have never looked into denominations, those w Where is the rector who can the law. How is it m g> . ' d ? And he wou ld appeal to that exercise any jurisdiction ot that Kina u 120 APPENDIX, NO. VI. hon. Committee, whether the Ministers of any Christian denomination have discharged their duties more inoffensively than those of the Church of England. The Rectories take in only the small spot of ground on which the Church stands, and which the burial-ground comprehends. And what lands are they which have been appropriated to those Rectories ? Perhaps it was not generally known that few, if any of the Reserves, had been given to them ; I am not aware cff a single instance in which there has been any of the Reserves given. (Hear, hear.) But wherever glebe lots were found they were appro- priated. (Hear, hear.) But hon. gentlemen say, you should not give them any land at all, but on the contrary, annihilate those trifling endowments already made. They tell you distinctly and plainly, that they wish all those endowments to be rescinded — they seek to do that which was never attempted in any other country. To rob a Sister Church of that which a beneficient monarch has given her for her support. Look at the United States, where they do not even acknow- ledge the existence of an Established Church. Do they ever interfere with their endowments ? No, it is left for Upper Canada to show that spirit of hostility towards the Church, and attempt to take away those pittances which interfere with no right which existed, or can exist, yet, we find the Church is to be assailed and despoiled, and by whom ? By a sister establishment, as the Church of Scotland claims to be. Sir, I cannot give up the question without adverting to some other petitions, emanating, not from uninformed individuals, but from the ministers of the Presbyterian Church, complaining of the infringement upon the rights of that Church. (Hear.) Let the country under- stand it; let it be fairly put: what single right of theirs has been infringed upon? is there a single item of authority which can be exercised by the Church of England now, which could not before. . I am sure hon. members will not affirm it, because it is not true; nothing could justify the assertion. The thing I chiefly complain of (and in this respect, the hon. gentleman who introduced these resolutions, has* much to answer for,) is, that at the time when this House is endea- vouring to set at rest this long agitated question, it should be again disturbed by the interference of the Church of Scotland-— the same party who interfered in the first instance. The contest is now just where it began, in consequence of the Church of Scotland again obtruding her claim, evidently showing that they have never been sincere in anything but in attempting to despoil the Church of Eng- land. And I would ask whether it is thought that these resolutions are such as are calculated to allay the ferment which it is said is excited in the country. For what purpose then are they brought forward ? I call upon this Committee, therefore, as men of honor to reject them. Some other members delivered their sentiments, among whom was the Speaker, Mr M c Lean : then The Solicitor General remarked, that his lion, and learned friend, the Speaker, had endeavoured to convince the Committee that the petitions contained nothing to give offence to the Church of England. 121 APPENDIX, NO. VI. If they did not, what could give offence? Did they not complain of the establishment and endowment of Rectories, which was provided for in the Constitution? Those endowments were worth very little ; not near so much as the salaries which the ministers of the Church of Scotland received from Government. Then, they represented that the ministers of the Church of England wished to lord it over their consciences. Did any person believe it? No, the ministers of the Church of England never thought of such a thing. 1 he hon. and learned Speaker said, there was a spirit in the country that would not submit to domination. He (the Solicitor General) believed it, he would allow no minister to lord it over him ; but there was also a spirit in the friends of the Church of England that would not suffer her to be rode over rough-shod by any body. (Hear, hear.) It is fair to give the following explanation of part of the fore- going speech; which must, at the same time, be taken as a tacit admission that the other parts are correctly reported. (From the Kingston Chronicle and Gazette of 29th March, 1837.) To the Editor of the Chronicle. Sir. I have been much surprised to find that such credence has been given to the report of the debate on the Rectory question, as pub- lished in the Constitution, when in fact it is misrepresented. I was present during the whole of the debate, and although there was a good deal of warmth expressed on both sides of the question, I venture to say that it was not caused by Mr Hagerman. In fact, I cannot fancy how any member of the Church of England could calmly discuss a report which, to say the least of it, recommended a direct violation of the 38th clause of the Constitutional Act, 31st, Geo. III. as well as an act of injustice to their Church. I feel called upon in vindication of Mr Hagerman, to refer particu- larly to that part of the debate in which he is made to say, that the Quarter Sessions was a contemptible Court. The words were not gratuitous on his part, but had reference to language applied by others. The report of the Committee stated that the Church of Scotland had equal rights and privileges with the Church of England in this country by the Act of Union ; and Mr Hagerman in his remarks went to prove that it was never so considered in this Province, and instance! as a proof that the clergymen of the Kirk could not soiennnze mar- riage without appearing before the inferior Court of Qoaper Sessic . Some member immediately answered, -that contempt^ it is called ; when Mr H. said, -yes, as it is styled that contemptible Court,” or words to that effect, alluding to an expression said to have been ised in one of the petitions on the subject. And I hue no 12*2 appendix, NO. VII. hesitation in stating that the words were not used in the offensive manner in which they are made to appear. I can confidently appeal to many members who were present— Mi- Marks, Mr Manahan, Mr Chisholm, of Halton, Mr McNab— some of whom voted against Mr Hagerman ; but I would observe, that the Editor of the Guardian, who was present during the whole of the debate, states decidedly that the words were used in the way 1 under- stood them ; and surely he is at least a disinterested witness. I am, Sir, your obedient servant, John S. Cartwright. Kingston , March 28 , # 1837 - In one of my private communications to the Editor of the Chronicle and Gazette, soon after the appearance of the report upon the Rectory question, I informed him that the expressions attributed to the Solicitor General respecting the Court of Quarter Sessions, were misrepresented. I am still of that opinion, and I agree in the version of that debate given by Mr Cartwright. A. Manahan. No. VII. (Seepage 52.) Message sent to both Houses of the Legislatures of the Canadas, in January 1832, by the respective Governors; Changing only the Words requiring Change, in order to suit them to both Houses of the different Pro- vinces. J. COLBORNE. The Lieutenant Governor has received his Majesty s commands to make the following communication to the House of Assembly, in reference to the lands, which, in pursuance of the Constitutional Act of this Province, have been set apart for the support and maintenance of a Protestant Clergy. , , ,. The representations which have at different times been made to his Majesty and his Royal Predecessors, of the prejudice sustained by his faithful subjects in this Province, from the appropriation of the Clergy Reserves, have engaged his Majesty’s most attentive consideration. His Majesty has, with no less anxiety, considered how far such an appropriation of territory is conducive, either to the temporal welfare ofthe ministers of religion in this Province, or to their sp.ntua influence. Bound no less by his personal feelings, than by the sacred obligations of that station to which Providence has called him, to watch u APPENDIX, NO. VIII. 123 over the interests of all the Protestant Churches within his dominions, his Majesty could never consent to abandon those interes s view to anv objects of temporary and apparent expediency. It L LL been with peeelier his inquiries into this subject, his Majesty, hu feund th.t *.^."^ sought for by so large a proportion of the inhabitants of this ^nice, may be carried into effect without sacrificing the f 1 established Churches of England and Scotland^. The waste lands which have been set apart as a provision for le gy DC riod rable bodies, have hitherto yielded no disposable revenue. J . it which they might reasonably be expected to become more productive is remote His Majesty has solid grounds for entertaining the hope thatlbefore the arrival It that period, it may be found prac mable to afford the Clergy of those Churches, such a reasonable and mode rate provision as fay be necessary for enabling them properly to dis- Ch ^£r«Sifues the House of Assembly of Upper Canada, to consider how the powers given to *e Provincia ®8 is a ; by the Constitutional Act, to vary or repeal this P^t^'tspovi ^ can be called into exercise most advantageously, for the spiritual a temporal interests of his Majesty’s faithful subjects in this Prov . Government House, 25th January, 1832. No. VIII. ( See page 67 . ) Despatch from Bai.umt, S^ta.tot S«two« Endow Parsonages or Rectories. Downing Street. 22 d July , 1825. c « T have received His Majesty’s commands to direct, that you Parsonage or Rectory , j and that you do from time 124 APPENDIX, NO. VIII. lands within such Township or Parish, which shall have been granted subsequently to the commencement of a certain Act of the Parliament of Great Britain, passed in the 31st year of the reign of His late Majesty King George the 3d, entitled, An Act to repeal certain parts of an Act passed in the 14th year of His Majesty’s reign, entitled An Act for making more effectual provision for the government of the Province of Quebec in North America, and to make further provision for the government of the said Province, or of such lands as may be allotted and appropriated for the same purpose, by or in virtue of any Instruction which may have been given by his said late Majesty before the commencement of the said Act, as you shall, with the advice of the said Executive Council, judge to be expedient under the existing circumstances of such Township or Parish. “You shall also present to every such Parsonage or Rectory an Incumbent or Minister of the Church of England who shall have been duly ordained according to the rites of said Church, and supply irom time to time, such vacancies as may happen therein. I have the honor to be, &c. (Signed ). Bathurst.” MAJOR GENERAL Sir Peregrine Maitland, K.C.B. &c. &c. Kc. THE END.