OF THE HON. HORACE BINNEY, ON THE QUESTION OF THE REMOVAL OF THE DEPOSITES. DELIVERED IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, Januany, 1854. WASHINGTON: PRINTED BY GALES AND SRATON, 1834. gute wes. SPEECH. The House having resumed the consideration of the motion to refer to the Committee of Ways and Means the reasons assigned by the Secretary of the Treasury for the removal of the public deposites, with Mr. McDurr1e’s motion for instructing the committee to report a bill for restoring them to the Bank of the United States— Mr. BINNEY addressed the Chair to the following effect: Mr. Speaker: The amendment offered by the gentleman from South Carolina, [Mr. McDurrie,] proposes to instruct the Committee of Ways and Means “to report a joint resolution, providing that the public revenue, hereafter collected, be deposited in the Bank of the United States, in conformity with the public faith, pledged in the charter of the said Bank.” It, therefore, presents directly the ques- tion of the sufficiency of the Secretary’s reasons for removing the public deposites from the Bank, and for making the future deposites elsewhere; and brings up for the consideration of this House every thing that can bear upon the great topics of national faith and public safety that are involved in the issue. I mean to discuss this great question, sir, as I think it becomes me to discuss it, on my first entrance into this House; as it would be- come any one to discuss it, having the few relations to extreme party that I have, and being desirous, for the short time that he means to be connected with the station, to do or omit nothing that shall be the occasion of painful retrospect. I mean to discuss it as gravely and temperately as I can: not, sir, because it is not a fit subject for the most animated and impassioned appeals to every fear and hope that a patriot can entertain for his country—for I hold, without doubt, that it is so,—but because, as the defence of the measure to be examined comes to this House under the name and in the guise of ‘* Reason,” I deem it fit to receive it, and to try its pretensions by the standard to which it appeals. I mean to examine the Secretary’s paper, as the friends of the measure say it ought to be examined—to take the facts as he states them, unless in the same paper, or in other papers proceeding from the same authority, there are contradictions; and then I must be allowed the exercise of private judgment upon the evidence— to take the motives as the Secretary alleges them—to add no facts, except such as are notorious or incontestable, and then to ask the impartial judgment of the House upon my answer. Sir, the effort seems to be almost unnecessary. The great practi- cal answer is already given by the condition of the country. No rea- soning in this House can refute it; none is necessary to sustain it. It 4 comes {o us, it is hourly coming to us, in the language of truth, and soberness, and bitterness, from almost every quarter of the country; and, if any man is so blind to the realities around him as to consider all this but as a theatrical exhibition got up by the Bank, or the friends of the Bank, to terrify and deceive this nation, he will continue blind to them until the catastrophe of the great drama shall make his fac- ulties as uscless for the correction of the evil, as they now seem to be for its apprehension. Mr. Speaker, the change produced in this country, in the short space of three months, is without example in the history of this or any other nation. The past summer found the people delighted or contented with the apparent adjustment of some of the most fearful controversies that ever divided them. The Chief Magistrate of the Union had entered upen his office for another term, and was receiv- ing more than the honors of a Roman triumph from the happy peo- ple of the Middle and Northern States, without distinction of party, age, or sex. Nature promised to the husbandman an exuberant crop. Trade was replenishing the coffers of the nation, and rew arding the merchant's enterprise. The spindle, and the shuttle, and every instru- ment of mechanic industry, were pursuing their busy labors w ith profit. Interna! improvements were bringing down the remotest West to the shores of the Atlantic, and binding and compacting the dispersed in- habitants of this immense territory, as the inhabitants of a single State. One universal smile beamed from the happy face of this favored country. But, sir, we have had a fearful admonition, that we hold all such treasures in carthen vessels; and a still more fearful one, that misjudging man, either in error or in anger, may, in a moment, dash them to the earth, and break into a thousand fragments the finest creations of industry and intelligence. Sir, there is one great interest inthis nation, that is, and I fear will for some time continue to be, peculiarly subject to derangement; and yet every other interest is intimately and inseparably involved in it: 1 mean the currency. We have some twenty scores of banks from which this currency is derived. We have from cighiy to a hundred millions of bank notes, with a metallic circulation along with it, not greater, perhaps, than as one.to seven. We have, it may be, one hun- dred and forty to fifty millions of bank notes, and bank deposites, per- forming in part the same office, with about the same propertion of specie in the banks to sustain it. [t is a system depending essentially for its safety upon public confidence, and that confidence depend- ing of course upon the regularity of the whole machine, which again depends upon ihe control that governs the whole. When compared with the currencies of England and France—in the former of which the metallic circulation is estimated as nearly one-half, and in the lat- ter as nine-tenths of the whole—it may be seen how much more con- fidence is required here, and how much greater the liability to shock and to derangement, Yet, by the regulation and control of the Na- tional Bank, ever since that regulation and control have obtained, the system has worked well, and it has worked well only by means of them. Sir, this regulation and control have been throfvn away— s 5 thrown away wantonly and contemptuously. In an instant, sir, al- most in the midst of the smiling scene I have described, without any preparation of the country at large, with nothing by way of notice but a menace, which no one but the Bank itself, and she only from the instinct of self-preservation, seems to have respected, this most delicate of all the instruments of political economy has been assault- ed, deranged, and dislocated; and the whole scene of enchantment has vanished, as by the command of a wizard. ‘Che State banks are paralyzed—they can do, or they will do, nothing. The Bank of the United States stands upon her own defence. She can do, or she will do nothing, until she knows the full extent of the storm that is to fol- low, and measures her own ability to meet it. Prices are falling, do- mestic exchange is falling, bank notes are falling, stocks are falling, and, in some instances, have fallen dead. ‘The gravitation of the system is disturbed, and its loss threatened; and it ‘being the work of man, and directed only by his limited trisdomi there is no La Place or Bowditch that can foretell the extent or the mischiefs of the de- rangement, or in what new contrivance a compensation may be found for the disturbing force. Sir, whence has come this derangement? It comes from the act of the Secretary in removing the deposites, and in declaring his doe- trine of an unregulated, uncontrolled, State bank paper currency. It is against all true philosophy to assign more causes than are suf- ficient to produce the ascertained effect. This cause is sufficient— this I verily believe has produced it—and I hope for the patient at- tention of the House to my humble eflorts hereafter to show that no- thing else has produced it. Sir, the Secretary of the Treasury has, in my poor judgment, committed one error which is wholly inexcusable; it is, m part, the error of the argument that has proceeded from the honorable member from Tennessee. That error lies in supposing that there were but two objects to be considered in coming to his decision upon the de- posites—the Administration and the Bank. "The coun'rry has been forgotten. The Administration was to vindicate its opinions. The Bank was to be made to give way to them. The consequences were to be left to those whom they might concern; and they are such as moderate human wisdom might have foreseen, such as are now before us. While the Administration is apparently strong, and the Bank un- disturbed, the country lies stunned and stupefied by the blow; and it is NOW for this House to say whether they will continue the error, by forgetting the country here also, or will endeavor to raise her to hen feet, and assist her in recovering from the shaft that was aimed at the Bank, but has glanced aside and fallen on her own bosom. Mr. Speaker, I cannot better show the extent of the derangement which this act is certain to produce, unless it is corrected, than by a statement of the uses which the Bank of the United States has annu- ally afforded, in various ways, to the people of the United States. I take the year 1832, for which the returns are complete as to the item of exchanges, and the years 1832 and 1833 for some other items of nearly equal moment. 6 The amount of domestic bills of exchange, purchased in all parts of the Union, in 1832, was. - - - - - $67,516,673 [The half year from December, 1832, to June, 1833, was $41,312,982, showing a large increase in that line during the first half of this year.] The amount of domestic bills collected for others, was 42,096,062 The amount of drafts by Bank United States and its offices, on each other, . - - - - 32,796,087 Drafts by Bank United States and its offices, on State banks, - - - - - - - - 12,361,337 Notes of Bank United States and its branches, receiv- ed and paid out of place, viz: at places where there was no obligation to pay them, - - - - 39,449,527 Notes of State banks received by Bank United States and its branches, where they were not payable, - 21,630,557 Transfers of funds for the United States, - ~ - 16,100,000 Transfers of office balances, - - - - - 9,767,667 Making a total of domestic exchanges, - - - 241,717,910 Add to which the amount of— Foreign exchange purchased, - - 89,253,533 Do. sold, - - - 4,203,204 15,456,737 Making the total amount of exchanges, by means of the Bank of the United States, within the year 1852, 255,174,647 The amount of premiums on domestic exchange, received by the Bank for the same period, was $217,249 56, which is about one-eleventh of one per cent. on the aggregate. amount of the domestic operations of the Bank, say $241,717,910; and this has been the whole cost of this circulation to the people of the United States, by the aid of which their property of every description has been passing in a copious and uniform current, from one extremity of this nation to the other. To this extensive aid must be added that derived from the Bank discounts, which, with the domestic bills purchased, amounted, in the year 1832, to an average sum of $66,871,349, and, in the year 1833, to an average of $61,746,708; and that also derived from the constant circulation of her notes, averaging $20,309,359 for the year 1832, and $18,495,436 for the succeeding year. Now, sir, it appears to me that I do no injustice to the Secretary of the Treasury, or to any one who has directed, or authorized, or superintended this act, by saying that it was the design of the removal of the deposites to break up this whole machinery; that this was not to be a casual, unexpected, unpremeditated result; but that the removal was ordered for the very purpose of drawing the circulation of the Bank of the United States out of the hands of the people into the hands of the Bank; to compel her, with this view, to reduce her discounts, and diminish the amount of her purchases of domestic _ exchange; and thus to cut all the ties which united the Bank to the pe as bia 4 a = 5 aye . 2 internal trade of the country. I do no injustice by saying this, ‘because, in the letter of the Secretary, if I read it right, this design is there explicitly avowed and defended. But whether designed or not, this will be the effect, and the necessary effect, of the measure, af it shall prove successful. It must throw the whole machinery of the Bank out of gear; compel her at once to begin the process which is to liquidate and close her transactions; separate her from the people, and the people from the Bank; and deliver over these vast concerns and interests to confusion and misrule. It is by the revelation of this design, and by the necessary consequences of the measure, as this intelligent. people have apprehended them, that great distress has already been produced, and the just anticipation of greater distress hereafter. Can any one, after this view of the recent uses of the Bank, and of the effects which have followed, and are to follow, their in- tended or necessary interruption, ask the reason of the want of ‘employment, the want of money, the stagnation of trade, which pre- vails in most of our cities?’ Can he ask the cause of the syncope into which this people have fallen? No, sir, no one can for a moment doubt the cause of all this. It lies in the act of removing the deposites, taken in connexion with its design and doctrine. It is not the mere transfer from one place to another. That is a circumstance which might happen, and has happened already, in the history of this Bank, without producing any alarm whatever. It is not the removal of the deposites simply, but the design with which that removal was made, -and the effects which belong to it. ‘The alarm proceeds from looking -at the necessary consequences of such a design, unless Congress shall vinterpose to avert them. ° Permit me, sir, before I come to the regular discussion of the reasons adduced by the Secretary of the Treasury for removing the deposites, to occupy a few moments in drawing the attention of the House to some matters, which, to many gentlemen here, are no doubt familiar, but which ought to be known and considered by all who would form a sound judgment on the question before us. I. “have said that the removal of the public deposites, if it had been a mere transfer of so much money from one bank to other banks, judiciously regulated as such transfers may be, would not have | produced the train of consequences which we have alapay seen to flow from it. There are gentlemen in this House familiar with as large operations in finance, that have produced no inconvenience. The effects of such a measure must depend upon the condition of trade at the moment of removal, upon the continued or interrapted application of the money transferred, to the same uses to which it has been before applied, and upon the prosecution or discontinuance of the general system of banking operations which prevailed at the mo- -ment of transfer. What its effects must have been, and must continue +o be, in the actual circumstances of the country, taken in connexion with the imputed design, it is not difficult to show. Sir, the Bank of the United States held of the public deposites, of every description, on the Ist of August, 1833, according to the ‘statement of the Secretary of the Treasury, the sum of $7,599,931;_ and they were in a course of increase, whichthe Bank knew as well Be ¥ Pa 4 ~ e+ ae © a 8 as’ the Secretary, up to the Ist of October, 1833, when they amounted: to the sum of $9,868,435; say ten millions of dollars. How was this money to be paid? The Secretary of the Treasury had a right to demand its payment, when, where, and in such sum or sums, as he- thought fit. He had such a power to do it in point of form, that the- Bank could not question its exercise in point of right. It was the duty of the Bank to be prepared to pay it; and the question must be answered, how was the money to be paid? The answer given to this question, and given with a view to involve: the Bank in odium and prejudice, isthis: that she ought to have paid it, or whatever the Secretary chose to require of it, in specie, from. her vaults, without distressing the community, by calling upon others. to pay their debts to her. ‘To say nothing of the fact, sir, that the Bank has always paid every one, the Treasury included, in specie, unless they preferred something else, the doctrine that she was to pay in specie to the Treasury, without putting herself in a condition to require itfrom some one else, is a doctrine which I cannot admit. It is one that will not bear examination. . The Bank,on Ist October, 1833, had specie in all her vaults to the extent of $10,663,441. Ifshe had been so situated at that time as that this, or any considerable portion of it, had left her vaults, without being brought back again, the consequences might have been of the most pernicious character to herself and to the whole country. The Bank had a circulation of more than eighteen millions to sustain, exclusive of her private deposites. A new erahad opened. A new system was- about to be adopted in the fiscal affairs of the Union. _ Its effects were to be seen. The extent to which the Treasury was about to assail her could not be known, The slightest interruption, the slightest fear of interruption, to her promptness and punctuality, would have- raised that apprehension for her. stability which has been excited for others. Sir, to ask this Bank, under these circumstances, to: empty her vaults of specie, without taking any measures of precau-- tion to replenish them, would have been to ask the able directors to throw away their whole capital of reputation, and that of the Bank also. ‘They would have proved themselves unworthy of the occasion on which they were called to act. What, sir, at the very outbreaking of the storm, when no human intelligence could tell how long it was to last, or what would be the fury of its violence, to ask the pilots of this bark to keep all her sails set, and to throw her ballast overboard! No, sir; the Bank was bound to do as she has done. She was bound to pre~ pare for the trial. She was bound to strengthen her position, by di- minishing her discounts; and she has diminished them, in my judgment, most wisely, most discreetly, and most tenderly. And yet, sir, it is from this circumstance—the mere reduction of loans and purchases. of bills, without looking either to the necessity for that reduction, or to the extent and effect of it—that some men of honest and upright minds have been prejudiced against her. I can show, with- out difficulty, that it is a mere prejudice. ae The Bank had to pay over ten millions of public deposites, and she: ought not to have exposed herself to lose any material portion of her specie, without being in a condition to recall it. She had then but 9 one resource, and that was, unless the interest of her debtors did of itself produce the effect by diminishing their loans, to call upon them _ toassist her in paying the amount. There was no other way open to her; and the degree to which she must call, in order to obtain assistance to a given extent, is a point in practical banking to which it is material for gentlemen to advert. In explaining this operation, so as to make it intelligible to that — portion of the House which may not be familiar with banking, I will state the argument against the Bank. It is said, sir, that whatever amount she requires her debtors to pay, or withholds from other borrowers af- ter it is paid, is to be set down as an actual increase of her ability to meet the demand for the public deposites. ‘This is a very specious but wholly unsound proposition. In the process of reduction of dis- counts, with a view to increase the ability of a bank, two and two do not always make four; they sometimes do not even make two. The Bank not only has debtors, but she is herself a debtor to the Trea~- sury for the public deposites, and to individuals for their private de- posites; she is a debtor for her notes in circulation, and to other banks for any balances due to them. When, therefore, she calls upon her debtors to return a part of the debt they owe her, these very persons may be her creditors by deposite, or may borrow from such as are, and may call upon the Bank to pay what she owes to them. Thus, if a person who is required by the Bank to pay a note, has at the same time a deposite or credit in bank, the one may be made an offset against the other; and if the two are equal, it is manifest that the Bank has no more ability to pay its debt to others after this trans- action than she had before. She has merely paid a debt that she owed an individual, by the extinguishment of a demand which the Bank had upon him. Sir, this effect is universally seen in the practical busi- ness of banking, that when a Bank calls in what is owing to her, a part of the demand is paid by drafts upon herself; and as her line of discounts goes down, so does her line of individual deposites. It will be easy to show, sir, the effect of this circumstance upon the resources of the Bank while the reductions of August and September last were being made. In August and September the Bank loans and purchases fell, accord- ing to the Secretary’s letter, 4,066,147 dollars, as follows : The amount of notes and bills in August was $64,160,349 And in October following - - - 60,094,202 —__—__- =, 066,147 But the private deposites in August were 10,152,143 And in October they had fallen to - 8,008,862 Making a reduction by payment of these deposies equalto 2,143,281 And leaving the Bank the better in al to ay the public: * only - - - picts XG} 922, 866 the difference having been paid away to Hie me depositors or credi- tors. This result is familiar in the history of all banks. As a bank calls upon her debtors to pay, they call upon her in like manner; and she retains only the difference between her receipts and payments. s ’ . , . one /~ _ . ay 10 Sir, while the process of reduction was going on in August and September, 1833, the public deposites to be withdrawn in October were increasing against the Bank, having been in October the amount be- fore stated - - - - - - - - $9,368,435 While in August they stood at - - - - — 7,599,931 Making an increase of - - - -> 2,268,504 so that, regarding these elements alone, the increased ability of the Bank to meet the public deposites was not equal to the increased demand by reason of the deposites; and the process of reduction was of neces- sity to be continued. So very insufficient a method is it of ascertain- ing the effect of reductions either upon a bank or the community, to take the amount of reductions only. But, sir, let me carry this examinationa little further. The amount of reductions from 1st August, 1833, to 1st January, 1834, was as follows: Notes and bills in August, 1833, were 864,160,149 in January, 1834, they were 54,911,461 Making a diminution or reduction in five months of $9,248,688 The individual deposites in August, being as before - - - - $10,152,148 They are in January, 1834 - - ~ 6,734,866 So that the Bank has paid those deposites to the extent of 3,417,277 And her ability so far as the reductions gave it, was increased by the difference only - - - 5,831,411 But the public deposites in Oct. were as before 89,868,435 And in January they stand at - - 4,230,508 Showing a payment of the public deposites during this time of — - - - - - - - - 5,637,927 And leaving an increased ability to pay the residue, as compared with the Ist Aug., 1833, only to the extent of the difference of - - - - - - $193,484 These statements, sir, show that, although reductions are necessary to meet the withdrawal of deposites, they do not produce an increase of ability to pay deposites in the direct ratio of their amount; and therefore that the amount alone is not a test of their having been car- ried to a sufficient extent. There is no doubt that the payments of debts to the Bank may have produced distress; but these payments have themselves been the effect of the removal of the deposites, and this effect has been infinitely aggravated by the stagnation of trade and the loss of confidence proceeding from the design of the removal, and from the manner of the removal. Sir, the Treasury might have pursued a course that would have mitigated the evil, by diminishing the cause of alarm. Having the control of this demand, they might have made known to the Bank the times, proportions, and places of the intended transfers, and have thus given assurance to the Bank that its reductions to meet the 11 emergency need not exceed the proposed demand. But the Treasury took a different course; and, if any thing could raise the embarrass- ment of the Bank, and the community also, to the highest degree, it was the course which the Treasury pursued. Mr. Speaker, what was that course? Is any gentleman in this House ignorant of it? The honorable member from Tennessee [Mr. Poix] has read to the House a passage from a pamphlet, which he was pleased to call the manifesto of the Bank; I shall, tnerefore, regard that publication as authentic, and I will refer gentlemen to the cor- respondence between the cashier of the Bank and the Treasurer of the United States that is appended to it. They will there find what, by agreement with the Bank, had been the practice of the Treasury when there was no alarm in the community, when the Bank was ad- mitted to be in a state of perfect security, and free from the appre- hension of embarrassment. The Treasury practice was to send to the Bank a daily list, specifying every draft upon the Bank from the Treasury, showing the amount drawn for and the place of pay- ment, but omitting the names of the persons to whom payable, to guard against fraud. Another list was sent weekly, with the dates, amounts, places of payment, and names of the payees. These were intended not only to guard the Bank against fraud and surprise, but to enable the Bank to regulate the accommodations to its customers, as they were thus apprized of the points at which their funds would be wanted. Nothing surely could be more natural than to continue a practice like this, when the deposites were to be permanently removed. It could not be doubted by any one that such a proceeding must cause uneasiness in the public mind; and the very first precaution which prudence would have suggested to mitigate the alarm, was the con- tinuance and increase of these safeguards of the Bank; certainly not that, at the very commencement of the alarm, they should be discon- tinued. But such was the fact. That they were discontinued, and that the Bank, misled and deceived, had to deal with the Treasury as with an enemy, is an event which belongs exclusively to the present day, and to the existence of personal feelings in the Department which directed the Treasurer, wholly unbecoming the official transactions of any Government. Sir, if I meant to deal with my enemy as is befitting the spirit of honorable contest, I would give him equality of position, of instruc- tion, of knowledge, and let the issue be the result of skill and the better cause; but if | meant to deprive him of all chance of defence or escape, to murder him basely, what better course could I pursue, than to blindfold him,. or rather to throw false lights into his eyes, that he could only know the approach of the poniard by feeling it in his heart? Sir, the former practice was made an instrument of imposition upon the Bank, by continuing to wear its usual appearances, while, in truth, drafts, to the extent of nearly three millions of dollars, were pur- posely withheld from the lists—drafts payable in unknown places, at unknown times, and to unknown parties. The lists themselves be- came instruments of deception, and gave false information to the Bank of the state of the Treasury demand, while rumors gave out the exist 12 ence of the concealed drafts in precisely that way which was most likely to increase the deception. I call the attention of the House to that correspondence of which I have spoken. The Treasurer says that the drafts were of an unusual kind; that they depended on certain contingencies—contingencies still unknown to this House and nation. Was this a reason why the Bank should not have notice of them? Was it calculated to quiet the apprehensions of the Bank or of the community, that the presentation of these drafts, payable as it now appears at sight, was suspended upon unknown contingencies? Sir, every unprejudiced person who looks at this transaction, must agree that the course of the Treasury, in regard to drafts for nearly three millions of dollars, hovering between Philadelphia, New York, and Baltimore, without an intimation to the Bank of the time and place where they were to be presented, was of itself amply suf- ficient to justify even’ more alarm than the Bank felt, and greater reductions than the Bank required. There is one other fact to which I will advert before I close these preliminary remarks; it is of great use in explaining the influence of the removal in producing the present distress. ‘The honorable mem- ber from Tennessee [Mr. Poix] expressed great surprise that any dif- ficulty should be apprehended from transferring deposites from one side of a street to another, inasmuch as the community would derive the same amount of accommodation from them ‘in one place as in the other. Sir, the consequence did not follow. The same amount of accommodation was not derived, and it is for those who know the condition of the deposite banks to give the reason. This {louse does not know what their circumstances were. Their capital may have been employed in furnishing capital to Western banks, or in discounting upon their own stock; or the amount of their private deposites may have been lessened by the apprehension of remaining in company with a public depositor and preferred creditor. There is one decisive reason why the deposite State banks can never so effi- ciently further the accommodation of the trading community as the Bank of the United States, and that is, that the circulation of the one extends over the whole Union, and never enters one of her banks in its course, but it issues again to repeat the circle. But the circu- Jation of a State bank is at her own door. . It cannot leave it to any material extent. Contrivances to extend it are abortive. It does not answer the purpose of exchange, and its excess as currency Instantly returns upon the bank for something that is better than her bank notes. The discounts of the State banks, on the faith of the deposites placed in them, cannot have been equal to the reductions of the Bank of the United States to pay them. And, in addition to this, there is an im- mense mass of private capital usually loaned out on the security of stock, at moderate interest, which, at a moment of danger and alarm, retires from the scene. The days of exorbitant interest are not the days of the capitalist, but of men who desire to make exorbitant pro- fit upon small investments. ' Stil, sir, it is not easy to account for the height of the present dis- tress by the mere change of the deposites, nor by the diminished use of them in the State banks, when compared with their use in the Bank 13 of the United States, from which they were taken. These circum- stances had an effect, but they do not stand alone. There is an intense apprehension for the future connected with this operation—an apprehension which springs from the ‘Treasury determination that nearly the whole of the existing circulation of exchanges i is to cease; and cease it must, to a great extent, if the Bank of the United States is not to collect the public revenue. The Bank of the United States, Mr. Speaker, has performed her great offices to this people by the concurrence of two peculiarities, which belong to her—her Structure, and her employment in the collection of the public revenue. No State banks, by any combi- nation, can effect the required exchanges to a considerable extent. No Bank of the United States, without the aid of the public rey enue, can effect them to the extent which the necessities of trade require. Sir, the structure of the Bank of the United States contributes to this operation in a way which every one may comprehend. ‘The whole circulation of the United States is employed i in effecting the exchange of the crops with the merchandise of the country. iti is employed in transporting the crops to market, ani merchandise to the places of its consumption. Now, sir, a National Bank, with branches spread over the whole Union, knows, from experience, and by her means of observation, where the amonnt of demand will fall and rise, and at what time these changes will occur. She knows beforehand where she may with safety diminish her resources, and where she must enlarge them. Wherever her resources are placed for use, it is the same thing to the Bank. Her profit is the same every where; and this. ability to give them the position which the trade of the country requires, is sustained by, and in a great degree dependent upon, her employment as the depository of the public revenue. In this character the Bank receives the revenue, and holds it until the time of disbursement; and the knowledge which her accomplished President and the Board of Directors obtain through their relations to the Treasury, and by intimate acquaintance with the fiscal opera- tions of the Department, enables them to reconcile all the demands of the Treasury with the demands of trade, at the same time that they preserve the whole currency of the country in that due pro- portion to demand which makes it, aod which alone makes it, sound and invariable. But now, sir, this revenue is to be collected against the Bank. She is to assist in paying, not in receiving it. Her situation is to be entirely reversed. The wants of the community are to become se- condary to her own preservation; and, instead of placing her funds where trade will most require them, she must place them where, from the presence of rivals supported by the Government, she will require them herself for her own protection. Sir, this is to be the future operation of the measure taken by the Treasury Department. The theory of a National Bank with branches not collecting and disbursing the revenue, is an absurdity. It neyer was conceived of until the present day; and even now, though complaints are made against the Bank, as if her powers were not impaired, no one ean seriously regard the measure of removal except as a measure of intended destruction. It 14 is particularly a measure of intended destruction to all the usual opera- tions of exchange. ‘The Bank cannot perform them as she has done. If the State banks promise to perform them, it is all delusion. If they have contracted to perform them, they will break their contract; and if they do not, they will break themselves. If by possibility they could make themselves a Bank of the United States and its branches, which they cannot do, what would the country gain by such a contrivance but a bank with the powers of the present Bank, subject to no re- strictions or control by law, and dependent only on the pleasure of him who controls the deposites? Sir, the whole property of the coun- try, in its transfer from place to place within it, is to undergo—has already undergone—a violent change. There is not a man who can now take the management of a crop in the South, or of a manufac- ture or importation in the North, who. is-able to foresee how he shall - conduct it to its close; and the consequence is, that he will, if possible, have nothing to do with either. This derangement, actual and pros- pective, sir, enters materially into the present excitement and distress. And does the honorable member from Tennessee propose, as a remedy for all this, to have an inquiry into the affairs of the Bank? Is it for difficulties of this description and magnitude that he demands a sifting inquiry, an inquiry into the printing accounts of the Bank? Is his great object to ascertain how $7,000 “of unvouched payments have been distributed, and who is the owner of the National Intelli- gencer? Sir, I confess my profound astonishment that gentlemen, having the welfare of this great nation confided to them, will de- scend to inquiries like these, will run after petty accounts with printers and the concerns of the National Intelligencer, and, in the ardor of pursuit, forget the country that is intrusted to them. The time has come, or I greatly mistake the indications around us, when the country demands that our attention be given to objects of a higher nature. I humbly hope, then, Mr. Speaker, that this. House will. inquire into nothing but the question before it, and from which we cannot escape—the evil which now threatens the country, and the proper remedy to be applied. An inquiry of this character is worthy of all attention, and of the devotion of all our faculties and efforts. In such an inquiry, no person will be more ready than myself to forget the Bank, if that shall be the course of patriotism and safety. Except as she ministers to the public good, I regard her as nothing, and less than nothing. ‘The public good, in the preservation of the public faith, in the maintenance of the public currency, and in the support of the constitution—this is an object which this House should never cease to regard, and to which, in my further remarks, I shall endea- vor to keep my own attention fixed, without yielding it to any other. Mr. Speaker, the immediate question before the House is, whether the reasons assigned by the Secretary of the Treasury for removing the public deposites are such as ought to satisfy Congress. and the country; and, if not, what is the remedy which it is the duty of Con- gress to apply? The reasons assigned are remarkable, sir, in a particular which cannot have escaped the general observation. The letter of the Secretary consists of certain general propositions, by which he en- 15 deavors to sustain his authority, and of certain particular reasons or statements of fact, by which he endeavors to justify its exercise. The general propositions upon which all his particular reasons depend, he does not condescend to argue at all; and I have listened with all due attention to the gentleman who has preceded me, the honorable mem- ber from Tennessee, without being able to perceive that his course has in any respect differed from that of the Secretary. The Secre- tary asserts, sir, that, by the removal of the deposites, by and through his absolute and unconditional power, whether the act was in itself right or wrong, with or without cause, the Bank of the United States is put out of court, and the nation discharged from the contract, with- out any violation of faith. He further asserts, that while his own power was absolute, that of Congress over the same subject was gone, having been alienated to him; that the Legislature were, as to the treasure deposited in the Bank of the United States, ina condition of impotency and imbecility; that they had bound themselves hand and foot by the charter of the Bank; and. that, while they had given un- limited authority over the subject to him, they had reserved no power whatever to themselves or to the people; and, consequently, that in no event, not even if the deposites were unsafe, or the ultimate law of all Governments—the safety of the people—should imperiously have demanded the. removal of the deposites, was it in the power of Con- gress to touch them, without a violation of the public faith. He further asserts, that the rightful exercise of his power is not, even in point of responsibility to Congress,-dependent on the safety of the deposites, or on the fidelity of the Bank. in its conduct to the Govern- ment; but that it was his right and duty to remove them, if the removal tended in any degree to the interest and convenience of the public. He finally asserts, that as it was his right to remove the deposites, so it was his right, as a consequence, to select the places of new deposite; and he did so. Sir, these are startling propositions. They involve grave conse- quences. ‘They deserve careful consideration, They are far from being self-evident. It was worthy of the officer who asserted them, and who was bound to justify the assertion to Congress, to favor that body with at least an outline of the train of reasoning by which he came to these remarkable conclusions. But, sir, there is no such thing in the book. I have looked carefully through it, to borrow some light on this subject from the mind of the Secretary, by which [ might enlighten my own; but, beyond the simple dogmas which I have stated, there is nothing to be found, except the causes of his particular determination, which were of no sort of importance what- ever, nor worthy of the least consideration, if his general propositions are true. Iam compelled, therefore, from necessity, to assert the contrary of all that the Secretary has asserted, and to take the burden of refuting what it would seem to have been rather his duty to es- tablish. These are points, sir, to which I shall especially call the attention of the House, as involving principles of the highest public importance—principles which, if this House shall affirm them, they will affirm that all power over the Treasury is gone from Congress, and that there is but a single Department in the Government. 16 The first proposition is that with which the Secretary begins his letter. The Secretary says— “It has been, settled by repeated adjudications, that a charter ** pranted by a State to a corporation like that of the Bank of the ** United States is a contract between the sovereignty which grants ** it and the stockholders. The same principle must apply to a char- ** ter granted by the United States; and, consequently, the act incor- tf porating | the Bank is to be regarded as a contract between the * United States of the one part, and the stockholders of the other; ‘* and, by the plain terms of the contract, as contained in the section “ above quoted, the stockholders have agreed that the power reserved “¢ to the Secretary over the deposites shall not be restricted to any par- ** ticular contingencies, but be absolute and unconditional, as far as ‘* their interests are involved in the removal. The order, therefore, “ of the Secretary of the Treasury, directing the public money to be ** deposited elsewhere, can in no event be regarded as a violation of ** the contract with the stockholders, nor impair any right secured to * them by the charter.”’ ‘That the House may have before them the section to which the Secretary refers, | beg their attention to it. It is the 16th section of the Bank .C harter, ich enacts: ‘That the deposites of the money of the United States, in places “in which the said Bank or branches thereof may be established, shall be made in said Bank or branches thereof, unless the Secretary * of the Treasury shall at any time otherwise order and direct; a “ which case, the Secretary of the Treasury shall immediately lay * before Congress, if in session, and, if not, immediately after the, “ commencement of the next session, the reasons eb such order or ** direction.” 1 beg the House tv remark that this document proceeds from a gentlemen of distinguished reputation as a jurist, trained to legal in- vestigations, and fully acquainted with the legal effect and value of every word which he has used. The laneuage he has adopted runs, “¢ by the plain terms of the contract, as ¢ -ontained in the section above quoted, the stockholders have agreed,” &c. Sir, if the Secretary had said that the contract gave him this power by implication, or that he possessed it by the fair interpretation of the section, or by its reason, spirit, scope, or intention, my perplexity would have been less; bat when he asserts that his authority is derived from the terms of the sec- tion, and from its plat terms, and that by those terms it is not restricted to any particular contingencies, but is absolute and unconditional, I feel some doubts w hether there is that common medium of a eofnmon language between the honorable Secretary and myself which is so in- dispensable to profitable argument. If I rightly understand the pro- position, it has no authority in the terms, nor in the reason, spirit, or intention of the section; and it is as revolting to good sense, in the strength of the language which the Secretary has used, as it is to the’ rules of law. It asserts that, in no event, right or wrong, not even in the extremest case of wilful injustice or fraud, (a case which I am far from supposing to have been in the view of the Secretary, though his language’ comprehends it,) could. the Bank assert the least violation of a= - @i7 faith, by the Secretary’s removal of the deposites. Sir, I submit to : the House that the contrary’ proposition may be easily shown to be true, and therefore that the Secretary’s proposition is hot true. The right of the Bank to the deposites-is derived from contract; a valuable consideration having been paid for it, in a bonus to the Trea- sury, and in a stipulation for. expensive services to be performed through the whole term of the charter. A right in the Secretary to remoye those deposites, without good cause, during < any part of the time, is not to be presumed, but that contr ary} and it should not be con- ‘ceded, until it is shown to be required by the clear and plain mean- ing of the whole section. ‘ “The terms of the section, instead of giving to the Secretary an absolute and unconditional power to remove the deposites, require that he shall have reasons for’ the removal, which be reasons he shall immediately communicate to Congress. This'is tee eo condition upon which the Bank submits to, the exercise of his power— , that he shall have reasons, and conmitnicate them; and such is the agreement ‘of the parties. The whole section is agreement, as the | 7‘ whole charter is.» It‘is all contract, from the’ beginning to the end. Now, if Congréss havé agreed with the Bank that the Secretary shall give his reasons for’ the, act, aid, consequently, that he shall have _reasons, the difficulty, sir, is to understand how, according to approved rules of interpretation, these reasons: can Be éonsidered as of no concern to the Bank, but only to Congress;\ how we can’ understand that iti is of no sort of moment to the- Bank whether there are reasons | A or not, when the Bank is to be affected by the removal, and Congress, ae er agreed with the Bank that the reasons shall be given. Sir, i in my bat, ment, the Secretary has directly inverted the object of the faq one » aPhe “ ‘reasons concern the: Bank only, and not Congress: $+ . or ree they concern Congress only because they concern. the Bank. The contract for the “deposites with the Bank %s a mockery Bd: ae other interpretation, Congress is above the reasons. Whe- ‘ther good or bad, she can do right “and: justice to herself, whatever the Secretary may argue. ‘Thre Bank, on the ‘other hand, is wholly dependent upor them, and- has no other. protection from. injustice; and the stipulation for comnrunicating the reasons to Congress is, there- forge the plain and manifest object of giving to the Bank the bene- siete review by Congress, upon ‘suc h priticiples as ought to govern sucl ies > contract.” . - : ; Sir, the h honorable vel di from’ Tennessee seenis to me not to have been fortunate i in his reference to the former head of the Trea-. % sury, Mr. Crawford, for his doctrine on any branch of this case. , On this, in particular, the opinion of Mr. Crawford was directly: avainst him, as well as against the present Secretary, and in favor of that j in- terpretation which I suppose to be the true one. On the 25th May, 1824, the select committee on the memorial of Ninian Edwards , ported. that, in certain instances, deposites of the public money ere . ‘ , made by Mr. ‘Secretary Crawford in certain State banks ee tad ‘in 4 places where the Bank of the United. States had branches, and thai “> the made no such communication of his reasons to Cong as th charter requires.‘ This omission,’ "says the committee, “isa cknow- * ledged by the Secretary, who says i it was owing to inudteaiancel and : 2 : : ” 4 18 that the inattention to the provision of the law was unimportant, in-- asmuch’ds the provision was intended opviousty for the benefit of the Bank, and the Bank had full notice.” (Reports of committees, 18th Congress, Ist session; document 128.) The: doctrine ‘of the present . Secretary is, that the provision was not intended at all for the benefit of the Bank; but that, so far as regards the Bank, his power of removing the deposites is, by the plain terms. of the section, abso-~- lute and unconditional. . The honorable member from tii unesset is not more’ » fortunate in the suggestion of his own reasons for supposing the ‘provision to re- gard Congress and not the Bank. — I understand ‘him to have said that the section required this communication fromthe Secre etary, that Con-- gress might know, Ist, where the deposites;were made by the Secretary after their revnoyal: and 2d, whether the Secretary was or was not liable to impeachment for the act: . Now, sir, think myself entitled to ask: it as a concession from the honorable member, that a’ communication: of the fact where the public money is’placed, is not a communication of the reasons why. it was removed. from the Bank of the United States. That fact is precisely what the Secretary isnot directed to. com- municate. His ¢ommunication is, by the plain terms of the section, confined to the reasons for ordering and directing that the deposites should not be made in the Bank or the branches thereof. As to the object of impeachment, sir, it is as much i in derogation: of that prin- ciple of our constitution, that no man shall be compelled: to be a wit- ness against himself, as it is of the character of. the Legislature for plain and honest dealing with its officer, to impute to it the design of drawing the Secretary, of the Treasury into a conféssion which may’ be read against him to the Senate.“ No, sir;,this was not the design of Congress, nor can any course of decent reasoning sustain the enor-- mous proposition of the ‘Secretary, that his power is absolute and un- . conditional. It is.a power which Congress. did not, could not, give. An absolute and unconditional power, derived by implication from a. contract, for valuable consideration, belongs to“doctrines which a court of justice would spurn from its hall. ¢ It has no countenance in our institutions; it has none in our constitution, “which. was ordained to establish justice, as well as to secure the Blessings’ of liberty; it has no. countenance from any thing but the poverty of the ‘case, which, find- ing.a, reason to be impossible, makes. it unnecessary. ‘Sir, the interpretation of the section is, to my mind, abundantly clear.’ Fhe Legislature did not see fit to part with the. absolute right to the deposites, nor to: make the right of the Bank a judicial question by defining the exceptions to it: In consequence: of. the fiscal rela- tions of the Secretary of the Treasury to the Bank, and of the proba- bility that whenever the proper reasons should occur ‘they would call for immediate action, the parties have agreed that he shall exercise a provisional power over the subject, under the stipulation that his reasons shall comé immediately to Congress for their review, upon such ° principles as belong to the contract; and, if, according to those prin ciples, the reasons of the: Secretary are insufficient for the act, then it will be an open’ ‘breach of the public faith, not merely: sanctioned, bur 19. committed- by Congress, not t to send. te deposites’ back to ‘the Bank, whose right to them ds unimpaired. If, after the payment,of a ‘million -anda half of money as a bonus, and the performance of costly duties to ‘ this period‘of the charter; and to be continued.to the end of it, together, equivalent tor an annual payment of two hundred thousand. dollars for twenty years, “the - Secretary has removed the public money without adequate causé, it is, possible, indeed, that an artificial argument may be_miade to-sustain ‘the act; but. réfleetion i in this House, and by this: people, will infallibly bring. the .question back. to the: ‘ground upoR which it must-ultiniately rest—the ground, of common sense and com- mon justice, upon which alone the faith, of the nation is to be defended, if it can be defended atall. : : Mr. Speaker: The | second general proposition of the Secretary alfects this. House ‘asva ‘component part of the legislative power, and affects: the whole. Jegislative.- ‘power. in, the ‘most critical manner, as may, be :seen,, by. the ¢ “proposition itself. “The ‘place of deposite §§ could ° not. be changed by a, legislative act, without disreg rding a. “ pledge: ‘which “the Legislative has” given,” ‘ ‘ although | votre *¢ should. be satisfied that the public money was: not safe in the eare * of the Bank, or should be’ convinced that’ the interests. -of the peo- “ple of, the Unitéd States | _mper iously,. demanded the removal.’ These are the plain terms of the Secretary, and the House mist see what is, their plain meaning; ‘that, whereas. the Sectetary could over- throw this contract, with or without reason, right or wrong; Congress could not be relieved from. it by the most imperious reasons; that as his. action could under no ‘circumstances impair the contract; so the action of: Congress upon, it could, in, no, event}, be otherwise than illegal: Sir, there is one characteristic. of these propositions, for which 1 acknowledge. myself : to be indebted to, the,-Secretary; they are so: strongly stated, that it is impossible to shistake their meaning; While the Secretary, asserts every power. over the subject in himself, he denies the existence of any power in: Congress over the same subject. The use and: design of thie ;doctrine are, at the same time,.as clear as its meaning; it is the only and the. ‘indispensable justification of the Secretary’s extreme action upor, the deposites so shortly before the present session of Congress; and, if this Justification fails, he is os out any. : li The. quiestion, sir, concerns the interpretation of a statute.. The extent of the Secretary’s authority, and of the restriction upon that of Congress, must be collected, therefore, .i in the ordinary way, fi the fair scope and meaning of its provisions, in their ‘application to the — subject-matter; ,and.the House must consequently feel-some- surprise that the Secretary: should. have’ adopted: the’ interpretation which :he asserts, in a.state of mind, that: ought ‘to have. carried him to the directly opposite conclusion. His ‘letter proceeds to say: “The ** power over the place of deposite for the public money. would seem “f -, PRobenly to belong, to the legislative department of the Govern-. ‘ment, and it is difficult to imagine why the authority to withdraw it “ from this Bank was confided excluswely to the Executive.” I must state it as an extraordinary fact, in the history of legal interpretation, 20 that, when the fear nea Secretary’ a that he doutds not imagine why the meaning should be what: he asserts it to be, it did not occur to him that this was one of the best reasons ‘in the world. for holding. that its méaning is not what he asserts it to-be.» Ifa court of justice ; should be told by learned counsel-that he could not imagine why” the meaning he gave to a statute should be its meaning, ‘he would probably ‘be admonished to try the effect of his intagination upon: a different construction, and it would be very likely to assist him in obtaining ‘the true construction. The’ Secretary says, he cannot imagine why the power was confided “exclusively to the’ Executive. “1, hold, sir, with submission, that the power ‘is: uot confided to, the Exetntivg , either exclusively ot at all. The position is directly: repugnant to his ‘first » proposition, that the power'of tle Sécretary is dbsolute and uncondiz “Tio and it is equally repugiant to the ‘lawS'and constitution, as ‘they have crated and. fashioned, thé Executive department. , The “Secretary is not thes agent or officer of: that department in:the per- formance ‘of the trust commit tted | to” him - by the L6th’ section of the: echarter} not in the performance of any of the trusts committed ‘to im ‘by Congress, ‘in regard - ‘to, the control “of. the public: treasure. “Th these particilars : he! is the agent and officer of that'department which levies and collects’taxes; duties, and imposts;: pays. the debts ‘of the nation; borrows moneys raises ‘and supports armies; provides and maintains a navy; ‘makes appropriations, and Keeps ‘the public. trea- sure under its’ own ‘control, tilly “in, yirtue of a legal. appropriation, it” ‘js drawn out of ‘the Treasury. He is- the, agent and offie~ t of Con- gress, and not.of the Executive. . ye AN: Gh This, sir, isa a question of vast importance; nie more in- pixeles to tle recent transaction, than’ ‘to the a order. of this Government, ander all future’ administr ations’ of. it, It is not a point ‘now raised for the first tims, though’ possibly | for “the first time made a topic of , controversy. The distinction is-.coeval with the constitution. It “may be traced, i in the clearest characters, through the first organiza- ‘tion of the Executive department and of the’ T reasury’; ‘and, if it did not lead to’ public discussi sion then, it was bécatise it challenged uni- versal assent.” [t is impossible to. explain the- structure of Pag dif- ferent : departments or. offices upon ‘any other theory. I ask the attention of the House to the consideration of ‘this point. The act of 27th July, 1789, entitled ** An act for establishing an Executive department; ‘to be denominated the Department of F oreign _ Affairs,’ enacts that the S Secretary for. that department (now the De- ‘partment of State) ‘shall perform and execute such duties as shall, from time to time, be enjoined, on or intrusted to him by the ‘Presi- dent of the United States, agreeably to the constitution, relative to correspondences, commissions, or instructions, to and with public ministers or consuls from the United States, or to negotiations with public ministérs from foreign ‘States or. princes, or to memorials or “other applications from. foreign public ministers. or other foreigners, or to such other matters respecting foreign affairs as. the Président’ of the United States shail assign to the “said. ‘department: and fur- thermore, that the said principal officer shall situa: the hgeencss of > 21 the said department in’ such manner as the President of the United States shall, from time to time, order and direct.” The. act of 7th August, 1789, entitled ‘* An act to establish an ‘Executive department,'to be ¢ enominated the Department of War,’ enacts that the Secretary “shall perform and execute such duties as shall, from time to time, be enjoined on ox intrusted to him by the President of the United States, agi eeably to the constitution, rela- tive to military commissions, or to “the land or naval forces, ships ox warlike stores of the United States, or to such other matters respect- ing military, or naval affairs, as the President of the United States: shali assign to the said department, or relative to the. granting of Jands to, pérsons ‘entitled thereto for military services rendered to the United Statés; or relative to Indian affairs: and furthermore, that the said . principal officer shall conduct, the business of the said depart- ment in such manner, as the President of the United § States. shai, pn time .to, time, order or instruct.” - The act of 80th April, 1798, entitled “ An act to pstahveh an Bxtclitine.: department,, to -be denominated the Department of the Navy,”. enacts. that it shall be the duty of the Secretary “‘ to execute such orders as he shall receive from -the President of the United States, relative to the. procurement of naval stores and materials, and. the construction, armament, equipment, and employment of vessels of-war, as well as -all gchar matters connected, with the: naval papab- lishment of the United States.’? j The provisions of these acts require no commentary. They Riser ihe departments wholly under the direction of the:President, agreea- bly to the constitution, in all that regards the exercise of his constitu tional powers over foreign affairs, the army, and the navy. The act of the 2d. September, 1789, for the catablishmentio he “Treasury Department, pursues, a strikingly different course.. It drops from the tie the denomination of Executive given to the other de- y accident, but by design, as the word.‘* Executive” was contantat in the title of the bill when reported by committee, (see Journal Ist & 2d Cong. vol..1, p-57,)and, what is more material, it enacts that it shall be the duty of the S Secretary “to digest and prepare ‘* plans for the management and improvement of the revenue, and.for ‘* the support of the public credit; to prepare and report estimates’ of the ** public revenue and the public expenditures; to superintend the collee- “« tion of the public revenue; to, decide on the forms of keeping andstat- “ing a accounts and making returns; and to grant, under the limitations ‘herein established, or to be hereafter provided, all warrants for ‘* moneys to be issued from the Treasury, in pursuance of appro- _‘ priations by law; .to execufe such services relative to the sale * of the lands belongiig to the United. States as may be by law ‘required of him; to make report ‘and give. information to ‘either ‘‘ branch of the Legislature, in ‘person or in writing, as he may be ** required, respecting all matters referred to him. by the Senate or ** House of Representatives, or which shall appertain to his office; ** and generally to perform all such services relative to the finances: & as he shall be directed to panes: The. name of the President 22 is not mentioned in the act, except in the 7th section, which charges the assistant with the duriles of the office,in case, the. Secretary is removed by the President; and the bond of the Treasurer, prescribed by the 4th section, is not to be approved -by the President, oo by the Secretary of the Treasury and Comptroller. It is not meant to say, sir, that’ the Secretary of the ! Preis performs, or is bound td perform, no duties of an Executive depart- ment, or that, in the performance of any such’ duties, he is not sub- ject to direction by the President; but it is meant to say that the Treasury Department i is not,.in its control of the Treasury, an Execu- ‘tive department, in the constitutional sense; and that the direction which is to govern the Secretary,-is left, by the terms: of the act, to be settled according to the character. of the ‘function to’, be exercised. The Secretary is not the head of an. Executive department, in the performance of acts which concern the custody and security , of the public moneys in the Treasury. His department is not, in -this re- respect, a Presidential department. To have placed the custody of: the public Treasury within, the Exectitive department, would have been a constitutional incongruity, a solecism, to say nothing of the enormous mischiefs to result from placing the power of: the sword and the purse in the same hand... It would have marred the hatmony and simplicity: of the whole scheme of the constitution, by leaving to Congress the duty of paying the debts and previding for the-com- mon defence. and welfare, while the money collected for these ob- jects was not under their control, but in the hands of a different de- partment. Iv would make, and the adoption ofthe doctritie does make, the power ‘of appropriation entirely futile, because ‘the public money is, by force of it, as little under the control of Congress before appropriation as ft is afterwards; and it gives the control of the pub- lic treasure,.so far as the position. and distribution of it can give such a control, toa department that-can wield the whole force of the reve- nue, against the legislative department and the people. The argument of the honorable gentleman from Tennessee here cuts into ‘the shbject by means of the power of. removal from office; and, with the aid of the debates in Congress, when the act: for organ- ‘izing the Department of Foreign Affairs was on its passage, -he con~ tends that the President, may direct the Secretary of the Treasury ‘in the discharge of his dutiés of every description, because he may remove him. ’ Sir, [ do not adopt his conclusion. It does not flow from his premises, and a.better conclusion flows. from better premises. The power of removal is a great question, which do not mean at present to agitate. It has been allowed, by implication and usage, to Ahe President of the United States, for different reasons; and the a 7 ae >” ~~ + . 50 ‘* were devised as instruments for the attainment of public objects; ‘* that their being insisted upon in the charter itself was in obedience ‘* to the will of those who-elected the legislative body by which it was ‘* passed; and that their appointment was given to the President, ‘“‘ with the advice and consent of the Senate of ‘the United States, “¢ (not to the mere fiscal representative,) in order to clothe them with ‘ali the character of official representation, and to exaet from them ‘a discharge of all the duties, public, politival, and patriotic; inci- “dent to a trust so conferred. If we are mistaken in this, we ac- ‘“* knowledge that our solicitude about ‘the rights and morals, the ‘* practical purity and freedom of our countrymen, has misled us. “ But we know that we are-not.”?> | _ ‘ DPevised as instruments,'and -given to the Président, to exact from them a discharge of ‘all’the duties, public, political, and patriotic, in- cident to a trast so conferred! The sense would not have been more complete, sir, though the alliteration would have been mere perfect; if they had described their functions as extending to all duties, public, political, patriotic, and party, incident to’a trist so conferred. Now, sir, without at present saying whether this theory was true, the other directors had-a right to ‘a,counteracting theory for them- selves; and if it is, true that thé Government directors were devised as instruments, and that they ate, by their creation, political direc- tors, the other directors, who have not been so devised, are entitled to consider themselves as anti-pdlitical directors, and not bound to assist the political operations of’ the other branch, but. rather, by the momentum of their. greater ‘numbers, to'keep them from moving the Bank out of place. But; sir,’the heads of the memorialists’ have been made dizzy by their-elevation.-. Their theory has no foundation in reason, or in the charter. I deny that they were devised as in- struments, whatever they may have made of themselves. There is not a shadow of difference between the rights and duties, the powers, or the obligations, of any of the directors; they are all directors,. neither more nor less, and owing the same duties to all the interests confided to them. . The directors appointed’ hy the President owe a duty to the nation, and so do ‘the others, and, in my'poor judgment, they have performed it.The directors elected by the stockholders owe a duty’ to'the Bank, and’so do the directors appointed’ by the President; but they have neither performed nor acknowledged it. They are not placed there to make inquiries for the President. ‘The Pre- sident has no authority to direct inquiries to be made by them. * This. is a question of charter power, of* power over a.corporation, all ot whose privileges are rights of property. ‘The charter gives to the President no such right. Tt expressly gives to. the Secretary 6f the Treasury a right of limited inquiry; by investigating such general accounts, in'the books of the Bank, as’relate to the statements which the Bank is bound to furnish “to the Treasury Department, but no further. Congress have the power to inspect the books of the Bank, and the proceedings of the corporation generally. These powers: have been expressly given, and: they have been so given because they would not have been derived by implication from the charter. € . ~ we ol But here is a power to be implied greater than all, and .worse than all—a power to be exercised secretly, and without avowal, ex parte, without notice, without opportunity of. reply. or explanation being given to those whom it affects, and by persons who are holding, to all appearance, the relations of amity with their co-directors,’ sitting on the same séats, and professing the same general objects. Sir, the ‘Board did right, not to aid them; it would-have done right to . resist them; and I inquire of the members of this House, and ask them to follow ‘out their honorable feelings into the reply—would they con- “sent to sit in committee by the side of men who professed principles like these, and submitted themselves. tothe direction of another as to the manner in which they should carry them into execution? This question concerns al! banks, and this Bank most intimately. A hue and cry is raised against the directors of this Bank, because the Bank will not tell the Government directors, that they may, tell the Secretary, precisely how they mean to. wind. up, if they do mean it; and here is a new theory.of banking, to. place by the side of the new theory of political power—that, all which the Bank intends to do’ for its own defence, is t6 be told to an enemy, that, if he thinks fit, he may defeat the measure; that it is not sufficient for him to con- tinue to know the precise , conditionof the Bank, in point of fact, as it actually is, and as he must perceive,it to be by the weekly statements, but that he must also know what it is’ going to be by the operation of measures of defence, that if it is in his power, and he also. thinks fit, he may frustrate the purpose. Tre private directors of this Bank have upon them the responsibility of taking care of all the stockholders—the nation, for its seven millions, included. If others forget this duty, they will not. This House, I hope, will not; nor will they join in censuring these faithful men for refusing, under the challenge of political power, to give up the direction of the Bank, by allowing to any department an inquisition into tlieir concerns, which the charter does not warrant. ' Mr. Speaker, it is in connexion with'this asserted right of inquiry into the affairs of the’Bank, that the contracts, made by the Secre- tary ‘with the new deposite Banks, become an, object of the deepest interest. The 15th fundamental law of the Bank charter enables the Secretary to require of the Bank a weekly statement of the capital stock,of the corporation, debts due to the same, moneys deposited theréin, notes,in circulation, and the specie in hand; and gives him a right to inspect the general accounts relating to it in the books of the Bank, but not the right of inspecting the account of any private in- dividual. This ought to have been sufficient for the Secretary, as, in the judgment of Congress, it was sufficient for the safe-keeping of the public moneys. It was enough for safety, which Congress wanted, ‘but not enough for interference and control of the Bank, which Congress did not want. The contracts which the Secretary has made with the deposite banks hold a very different language, as may be seen by that with the Girard Bank. The Bank is bound, not -only to make weekly returns of its entire condition, and to submit its books and transactions to a critical examination by the Secretary, or an agent duly authorized by him, but it is expressly provided that gin? 52 this examination may extend to all the books and-accounts, to the- cash on hand, and to all the acts and concerns of the Bank, except: the current accounts of individuals... Sir, I am happy to learn that the stockholders of the Bank of Virginia have disavowed the act of” their directors, in giving this power to the Secretary. It isa fearful power, and, with the Treasury interpretation. of current accounts,, (which is not the language of the charter, but’ accounts generally of any private individual,) we may see the extent of control, which, with the aid of the deposites, this clause of the contract will give. It is an authority for universal supervision of all the operations of the Bank, including its discounts, and for granting and withholding accommodations at the pleasure of ‘the Secretary, I humbly submit to all who feel any Ldncbied sympathies with honorable men, whether, in the absence of the mandate of a judicial decision, in a case in which such a decision has been avoided by the power that has a right to invoke it, whether this is a fit occasion to justify the removal of the deposites for violation of charter, because the directors have not adopted or assisted such principles, interpretations, and aims as these? The affair of the French bill I shall briefly notice, as I pass to the. remaining topic of the Secretary’s answer.) I will take the history of that bill, as ‘it is given by the honorable member from Tennessee— that it was a bill bought by the Bank, refused payment by the French Government, and, upon protest, the amount was paid by the agent, for the honor of the Bank, to the foreign holder; that the money was not used by the Treasury here; and that the Bank suffered nothing but a few expenses,.which the Secretary is willing to refund. I will agree that there is nothing but an old statute’of Maryland to give damages on the protest, and that it does not include the sovereign of the’ counuy. I cannot argue the case, because the honorable meinber assumes, all the law and all the facts, and‘ the Secretary’s letter gives us none. I must, therefore, agree to the case as he pre-- sents it. But the thing which passes my comprehension is, that a mere claim by the Bank—a claim without suit or other act—a. claim which it is the privilege of the lowest and poorest to make upon the highest and richest ‘in the land, without incurring either forfeiture or - damage—that this should be gravely put forth as a brand of faithless- ness upon the Bank, and a forfeiture of her right to the’ public depo-- sites. Sir, there must be a strange perversion of mind in myself, or in the honorable Secretary, in regard to this conclusion. It would have been the occasion of infinite surprise to me, if the faculty of being surprised had not been recently so much impaired by use, that T am no longer conscious of its existence. fwd The last reason of the Secretary for removing the deposites is, that the Bank had employed her means with the view of obtaining political power. ie PC 6 eee a I beg permission of the House to say a word concerning the hum-- ble individual who has the honor of addressing it. Had I been a director of the Bank of the United States, during the years in which it has been its misfortune not to have received the approbation of the Secretary, I should have been associated with men who are an orna=- 53 ment to the city in which they live, and an honor to their country— men, who, from earliest youth to their present mature age, have been beloved, respected, and honored by all around them, and who are as much the standard of all the virtues, private, social, and pa- triotic, as the coins of your mint are the standard of your currency, and without any. of the base alloy which you, mingle in your coins to make them fit for the use and abuse of the world. If I had been called upon to'act»with such men as these, in regard to measures of any kind; and had differed from them in my judgment, I should have deemed it almost an act of treason against the authority of superior intelligence, or of arrogance, exposing myself to. reprehension or contempt. _I should have followed them fearlessly wherever (they led, and with unshaken confidence that they could not lead me where either wisdom or virtue would be exposed to reproach. But, sir, I had not this honor.. I was not a director of the Bank in 1829, nor in 1830, nor in 1831; and, though chosen‘a director in 18382, I left Philadelphia in January, to pass. my winter here, and met the Board but once- after my return, to show respect to the Committee of In- quiry appointed by,this House. Of the measures now to be adverted to I was not informed, except as the public and this House have been informed. I can speak of them, therefore, without the in- fluence arising from either participation or privity. As to my pro- fessional relations to the Bank, I am proud to belong to a profession which has many distinguished members in both Houses of this Con- gress—a profession which the confidence and affection of this people have raised, in more than one instance, to the highest office in their gift. I will not degrade this. honorable ‘profession! I will not degrade my own rank in it, however humble, by condescending to inquire what extent of compensation would induce an honorable man to sell’his conscience, and his principles, as slaves, to his client! Sir, the great accusation against the Bank is, that she has endeav- ored to obtain political, power, and interfered with the election of the President of the United States. Grant the design of the Bank, sir; and what then? It has not succeeded. The letter of the Secretary is an argument to show that it has not succeeded, and that the ques- tion of re-charter is settled against the Bank by the voice of the Peo- ple at the last election. The election of the President—the appoint- ment of the Secretary—the elections for this House—were all com- pleted before the deposites were removed; and these are held up to show that the design imputed to the Bank has failed and fallen to the ground, Then I ask, sir, what is the character of that act which has removed the deposites?. Is it preventive, or is it vindictive? It is vindictive, sir. -It is punishment directed against the Bank for an imputed design that has wholly. failed in its execution, and the victim of the infliction is not the Bank, but the country. If it is a matter of grave belief that the purpose of the Bank was that which is im- puted, and that the elections have given out the answer of the People to it, what more triumphant refutation can be adduced of the reasons that find either a ground of apprehension, or a motive of punish- ment, in acts which have thus failed-of effect? If the premises be- 54 long to the case, the true conclusion is, that the people are in no danger from attempts to gain politieal power by the devices of the Bank, and that she may go on to the conclusion of her charter, per- forming her constitutional duties to the country, as she has always done, with fidelity and success; leaving the question of renewing the charter to settle the extent of her punishment. : But, sir, I deny the charge. I say the design was not entertained, and that not a particle of evidence has been produced to infer the contrary.’ The Board have printed and published, and have assisted in printing and publishing, “for the purpose of communicating to the ‘** people information in regard to the nature and operations of the ‘* Bank, and to remove unfounded prejudices, or repel injurious ca- ‘“Jumnies on the institution intrusted to their care.” This is the declared purposé of all they have done, and they stand upon the sacred principle of self-defence in asserting their right to do it. That there was nothing in the veto message to justify the circulation of the review which the gentleman from Tennessee has noticed, is more than I admit; and when the gentleman shall assert, upom his own authority, that the Board have given currency to a scurrilous pam- phlet against any one, he will find me ready either to deny the fact, orto admit its impropriety. The constitution secures to every per- son, natural and political, the right of printing and publishing, being responsible for the abuse of it. It prohibits Congress from passing any law abridging the freedom of the press. If the charter had in- serted a provision to restrain the-Board of Directors from printing or publishing, it would have been null.and void. An interpretation of the charter to restrain it is equally so. They have the universal right, subject to the constitutional corrective through the judicial tri+ bunals of the country; but to condemn, and then to try them—to punish, and then to hear—belongs not to the tribunals of .this earth, nor to the constitution of this country. Sir, the change of the deposites is an extraordinary mode of pre- venting their application to the purposes of political power. Before their removal, they were in a Bank not possessing political power,, nor capable of using it. They are now wielded by those who possess it, and who are more or less than men if they do not wish to keep it. Then they were ‘in one Bank, under one direction; now they will be in fifty. Then they were in a Bank which political power could not lay open to its inquiries and “control; now they are in Banks that have given a stipulation for submitting all their acts and concerns to review, ‘Then, if these deposites sustained any action at all, it was in the safest form for the People—action against power in office; now its action is in support of that power, and tends to the augmen- _ tation of what is already great enough, I say, in conclusion upon this point, if these publications are deemed by this House to have been unlawful, return the deposites till the Bank has been heard. Go to the scire facias—give to the Bank that trial by jury which is secured by its charter, and is the birthright of all. Ask the unspotted and unsuspected tribunals of the country for their instruction. Arraign the Bank upon the ground either of 55 sedition, or grasping at political power. There was ample time for it, and still is; and there is a great Eoocomebe for it, which I commend to the consideration of this House. Sir, in the worst days of one of the worst princes of England, (I mean Charles the 2d,) the love of absolute rule induced him to make an attempt upon the liberties of the city of London, whose charter he desired to overthrow,. He complained that the Common Council had taxed him with a delay of justice, and had possessed the people with an ill opinion of him; and, by means of his ministers of the law, and by infamously. packing the bench, having promoted one judge, who was not satisfied on the point, and turned out another who was not clear, he succeeded in obtaining a judgment, under which the liberties of that ancient city were seized by the crown. But, when the revolution expelled his successor, and the principles of the British constitution came in with the House of Orange, an early statute of William and Mary reversed the judgment’ as illegal and arbitrary; and from that time it has been the opprobrum of the bench, and the scorn of the profession. The account of it which is given by Burnet, is thus:—‘‘ The ** court, finding that the city of London could not be wrought on to ‘ autretider their ch narter, resolved to have it condemned by. a judg- ‘¢ ment in the King’s Bench. Jones had died in May; so now Pollexfen ‘** and Treby were chiefly relied on by the city in this matter. Sawyer *“* was the Attorney General, a dull, hot man, and forward to serve all ** the designs of the court. He undertook,-by the advice of Sanders, ** a learned, but very immoral man, to overthrow the charter. The ** two points upon which they rested the cause were, that the Com- ** mon Council had petitioned the King upon a prorogation of Par- ‘ liament, that it might meet on the day to which it was prorogued, “ and had taxed the prorogation as that which had occasioned a delay ** of justice: this was construed to be the raising of sedition, and ** the possessing the. people with an ill opinion of the King.”— ‘*When the matter was brought near judgment, Sanders, who had ** Jaid the whole thing, was made Chief Justice; Pemberton, who was “not satisfied on the point, being removed to the Common Pleas, ** on North’s advancement. Dolbin, a judge of the King’s Bench, was ** found not to be clear; so he was turned out, and Wilkins came in ‘his room. When sentence was to be given, Sanders was struck ‘‘ with an apoplexy, upon which great reflections were made; but he ‘* sent his.judgment in writing, and died a few days after.” As the only precedent which the books’ present to us of forfeiture of char- ter for sedition, or an interference with political power, it is not with- out instruction. Sir, these reasons of the Secretary being one and all. insufficient to justify the removal of the deposites, the question of remedy is the only one that remains. The state of the country requires the return; but the question of return has nothing to do with the renewal of the charter. If renewal were the object, 1 should say, do not put them back, leave them as they are; make no provision for the future, and see, at the end of two years, to what relief the people will fly. But, . . 56 sir, let us save the country from this unnecessary suffering. Return them, and the mists will clear off from the horizon, and the face of nature smile as it did before. Return them, and make some provi- sion for the day when the capital of this Bank is to be withdrawn from the country, if it is to be withdrawn. Provide some control, some regulation of your currency. The time is still sufficient for it, and the country requires it. If, indeed, this Bank is not to be continued, nor another to be supplied, nor a control devised to prevent the State Banks from shooting out of their orbits, and bringing on confusion and ruin, then, I confess that I see no benefit in putting off the evil for two years longer. The storm must come, in which every one must seize such plank of safety as he may out of the common wreck; and it is not the part, either of true courage or of provident caution, to wish it deferred for a little time longer. Sir, I have done. I have now closed my remarks upon the ques- tion of the public deposites, second in importance to none thet has occurred in the course of the present administration, whether we re- gard its relations to the public faith, to the currency, or to the equi- poise of the différent departments of our Government. It is with unfeigned satisfaction that I have raised.my feeble voice in behalf of the amendment offered by the gentleman from South Carolina, whose enlightened labors in this great cause, through a course of years, have inseparably. connected his. name with those principles upon which the security, the value, and the enjoyment of property depend; and it will be sufficient reward for me if 1 shall be thought not to have im- paired the effect of his’ efforts, nor to have retarded the progress of those principles to their ultimate establishment. For myself, I claim the advantage of saying, that, as I have not consciously uttered a sentiment in the spirit of mere party-politics, so 1 trust that my answers to the Secretary will not be encountered in that spirit. If the great and permanent interests of the country should be ahove the influence of party, so should be the discussions which involve them. It ought not to be, it cannot be, that. such questions shall be decided in this House as party questions.’ The question of the Bank is one of public faith; that of the currency is a question of national pros- perity; that of the constitutional control of the Treasury is a ques- tion of national existence. It is impossible that such momentous interests shall be tried and determined by those rules and -standards which, in things indifferent in themselves, parties usually resort to. They concern our country at home and abroad, now, and to all future time; they concern the cause of freedom every where; and, if they shall be settled under the influence ‘of any considerations but justice and patriotism—sacred justice and enlightened patriotism—the de- jected friends of freedom dispersed throughout the earth; the patriots of this land, and the patriots of all lands, must finally surrender their extinguished hopes to the bitter conviction that the spmrIT OF PARTY Is a more deadly foe to free institutions than the sprRIT. oF DES- POTISM. pee (GEG: } i Wy -