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THE 
 
 PREROGATIVE 
 
 OF ^ 
 
 PARLIAMENTS 
 
 in E N gland: 
 
 Proued in a Dialogue (^pro (y 
 
 contra) betweene a Counccllour 
 
 of Srate and a luftice 
 
 of P^ace. 
 
 Written by the worthy (much lacked and 
 lamented) Six IValter Raleigh Knight, 
 deceafed. 
 
 Dedicated to the l^ngs MateHie, and tothe 
 Uoufe ofFarUment mtp AJfsmhled. 
 
 ' Preferued to be now happily 
 (in thcfe diftraded Times) 
 Puhhjhsd^ and 
 
 Printe d at Mtdelburge. 
 

 
 _i^^f^^^_ 
 
 To the Ki NG, 
 
 Moft 'gracious Souerai^ne : 
 
 Hefe th.4t ^refup- 
 preji and helpeUffe 
 are commonly fiknt^ 
 wijhmg that the 
 common ill in dfort 
 might he with thetr 
 ■particuUr misfor- 
 tunes : which difpO" 
 fttion^ ai it is vn- 
 churitAhie in aH 
 men^ fo would it he 
 in me more dogge-likc then man-like^ to bite the 
 fiene thatftrooke me ! [to WftJ the horroned autho- 
 ritie iff my Soueragne mi fin formed, feeing their 
 Armes And hands that flang it. Are moB of them aL 
 ready rttten. For I muft confeffe it ener^ that they 
 are debts ^ and net difcontentments, that your Ma» 
 . ieBy hath laid <vpon me ; the debts and obligation of 
 oa friendlejje aduerfity^ farre more payable in all 
 ^Kinds^ihep thofe of ths frtfpercu^ : Jllwhuh^nor 
 ^ ji2 the 
 
 If 
 
the Icaft of them ^ though lunntt difcharge^ Jmaj 
 ^et endeauour it. 
 
 And notwithHandwg mj reBramt hath re» 
 trenched all wAyes^ as well the wayes cflahcur And 
 mll^ M of all other imfloyments^ yet hath it left 
 with me my cogilationSy then which I haue nothing 
 tlfe to offer en the Altar ojmy Loue, 
 
 Of thofe (m&fl graciom Soueraigne) I haue ^vfed 
 fotne part in the following di/fute, betweene a Coun- 
 JelhurofEHate^ and a luHice of Peace y theonedif-^ 
 frvadingj the other ferjwading the calling of a Par- 
 iiamenu In all which ^Jince the T^rmanConquep 
 (at the leafl fo many as Hi B cries haue gathered) I 
 haue infime things in the following Dialogue pre- 
 ferttedyour M-AieHie with the contentions andfuc • 
 cejfes. 
 
 Some things there are^ and thofe of the great efi^ 
 which becaufe they ought fir ft to be tefolued on^ / 
 thought fit to range theminthe front of the reft^ ta 
 the end your MaieUie maybe pleafedto examins 
 your ov?ne great and Princely heart of their accep- 
 tame^$rrefufaU. 
 
 Thefirft is^ that fuppofition^ thai your Maie- 
 flies Subie^sgiue nothing but with adiunlitenof 
 their own inter efts ^ interlacing in one and the fame 
 4^y0ur MaieBies reliefe:^and their owne lihrties-^ 
 mt that your MaieBies pietie was euerfujpected, 
 but becaufe the heft Princes are eaer the leaft iea^ 
 ious^your M^iefiie fudging others by your felfe^ 
 Ifph^hdne ahnftd your Maiefties truB, The fear d 
 €ontint4Amc 9fthe like abufe mayperfwade the pro - 
 
 uift(J»: 
 
Kfjidft^, But this caution^ hotv euer it fiemeth At 
 frjijigyt^your M^i^fiy (bAUferceiue by manyex^ 
 dmples following but fr inflow. The bands of Sub^ 
 ieksto their Kings Jhould alwayesbe wrought eta 
 eflron^ the bonds of Kings ^unto Subiects but with 
 Ofibwebs, 
 
 This it is {mofi renownek Soueraigne) thitt this 
 trAfjicke of ajfurances hath beene often vrged^ of 
 which i if the Conditions had beene eAfie^ our Kings 
 hAue as eAjtly kept them • if hard andpreiudiciall, 
 either to their honours oreliates^ the Creditours 
 haut beene f Aid their debts with their owne pre^ 
 firr^tion. 
 
 For aU binding of a King by Lawvpon the Ad^ 
 uantAgeofhiinecefsitiCt makes the breach it Jelfe 
 lAwfuliinA King. His charters And all other in- 
 fir uments being no other then thefuruiuing witnef, 
 jesofvnconftrAined will: Prinocps non fubi jcitur 
 nifi fua voluntate libera, mero moto & certa 
 Scicmia : Necejfarj words in all the grants of a 
 King witnffsing that the fame grants were ginen 
 freely and knowingly . 
 
 Thefecond refolut ion will reft in your M-aieBy^ 
 leauing the new jmpofitions^ all Monopolies^ and 
 ether griemnces of the people to the c^nfideraiion 
 of the Houfe 3 Prouided^ that you r M^ie flies reue-^ 
 me be not abated^ which ifjourMaieftyfijaUrefuJe^ 
 it is thought that the dijputes will Uji limgy andtht 
 iffues will be dsubt full: Affd on the contrary ^if your 
 Maiefty vouch fa fe it, it may perchance be filled a 
 yeeldwg^ which feemeth by the found to brAmthe 
 ^gAlty, A I Suf 
 
But (mofl excellent Prince) "what ether k it m 
 th'earesefthemfe^ hut as the found of atrumftt, 
 hauing hlaptdfirthafalfe AUrme^ becomes but 
 common ay re f Shall the head yeeld to the feet ? 
 eertamly it ought , when they aregrieued-^ for roif 
 dome mil rather regard the commoditj^ then ebieB 
 thedifgrace^ feein^if the iixxlje in fetters^ the 
 h&dA cannot befreed^ and where the feet feele but 
 their ownepaifies^ th<^ head doth not onelyfiffer by 
 participation^ but withali by conjiderntion of the 
 euill. 
 
 Certainly t the point of ho/Jour well weighed hath 
 nothing in it to euen the ballancCy for by your Mu 
 leBiesfaueHr , your M-aieJiy doth not yeeld ather to 
 AnjMrfon^ or to any power ^ but to a difpute cnely, in 
 which the ? r of o fit ion and 'tA.inor proue nothing 
 •without i conclujion^ which no other per/on or power 
 can make^ but a JS/laiesiy : yea, this in He nry the 
 third his time was cScaf awifed^me incomparable. 
 Fort the King raipd againe/ecouers his authority : 
 For Joeing in that extremity as hee to as driuen with 
 the Queeneand his children. Cum Abbatibus & 
 Prioribus faris humilibus hofpitia qusererc & 
 prandia : For the reft^ may it p leafs your M&ie^y 
 to conjider that there can nothing befall your Ma. 
 iefty in matters of affaires more 'vnfortunately thi» 
 ihefummons of a Parliament, with iU/ucceJfe : A 
 difhonour ^perjrvafiue and aduentnrous as it will 
 not onelyfinde arguments • but it will take the lea- 
 ding ofall enemies that [hall offer themfelues againft 
 y$»r Maiefiies eft ate. 
 
Lc Tabourin dc la panrcte nc fai£t poind de 
 brcud : ef which dinger om difcafe in Princes^ the 
 remedy doth chiefiy confifl in (he loueef the people, 
 rphkh hew it may be had and held, no man knerves 
 hftttr then your Mate fly ; how to loofeit^ aUmen 
 know^ and know that it is lofi hy nothing more then 
 by the defence of others in wrong doing. The enely 
 tnotiuis ofmtf chances that euer came to Kings of this 
 Landflnce the Conqueji, 
 
 Jtisonely loue (moji renowned SouerAigne)mufi 
 prepare the war for your Mai? (ties following dejires. 
 It is Vm^ which obey es^ which fuffers^ rvhich giues, 
 which Jiickes at nothing : which Lofte, as well of 
 your Maieflies people^ as ths loue of God to your 
 J^iaieHyy that it may alway es holdfhail be the con- 
 timall prayers of your MaieUies wofi humble 
 'uaffally 
 
 Walter Rakgh* 
 
^) 
 
 Ni 
 
 DIALOGVE BE- 
 
 TWEENE A COVN- 
 
 SELLOVR OF STATE, 
 AND A IVSTICE OF PEACE. 
 
 CovasELLo VR."m. >r OwSiV.what (Wrfce you of M; 
 
 S:Mm triail jn Scat Chamber} 
 I know that the brute ran that 
 
 .helf ". ""« * Benevolence to the King was vva, ranted by 
 
 "•ngJthJtMr^Vr M» !?/': ' V"'? "l'"^' "'^''■'f=« « 'i-c ^'^ 
 I.econ/eff"d he h^1?;;/«''^"'°^^ 
 
 wrote hi, to the Maio' of i?"/f ""'";''" '"'" '"'''« ''^ 
 fl'ips letter there XBlff'^''''1f* ' "''.'" y°"'Lord. 
 
 condemncthesSina J """V '^^ ='«"'= Statutes did 
 title of a free gift .wE!fir%^'°" 'heSubieft. under 
 downe and required Be? '°'^'';;V "'"'''' ^'- ™» <"« 
 Shires haue given tohifM "'J.S°°''^°fd. though divers 
 
 ^ Covins* 
 
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 G or N ?v VVc kaowit well enough, but wc haue many 
 
 other projects* 
 
 I V5 T. It is tf tic my good Lord: but ycurLordHiip will 
 find, that when by thcfe yea haue drawne many petty fums 
 from the fubjcdls, & thofe fomctimes fpent as faft as they arc 
 gathered, his Majefty being nothing enabled thereby, vvheni' 
 you ihall bt forced to demand your great aitti, the Countrey 
 Will exci f<?it felfein regard of their former payments, 
 
 G o V NS. What raeane you by thc^rw; aidei 
 
 I V s T« I meane the aide of Parliament. 
 
 CovNS. By Parliament, Iwouldfaine kuowthemata. 
 that durft perfwade the Kmg vnto it, for if it fli ould fucceed^ 
 ill, in what cafe were he? '- 
 
 I Y s T. You fay well for your fclfe my Lord : and per* 
 chance you that arelovcrs of your fclves(vnder pardon) do 
 follow the advice of chelate Dnkeoi A^va, who was ever 
 cppofite to all refolutions inbufineffe of imporranec; for if 
 the things enterpr.'zed fiicccedcd welLthc advice never came 
 in qucftion; If ill, (whereto great vndcrtakings are common* 
 ly fubie£l)lie thtn made his advantage,byrcmembririg his 
 Countreycounceil :Butroy good Lord, thelerclervcd Poll— 
 ticians arencc rlebflinrvants, for hee thatisbound to ad- 
 vcntuK his iife for h's Maftei-, is alfo bound to adventure his 
 advice, K'-efemt haak'^ cof«n^eB {ixxth Esdeftafiictu ) When if 
 maj doegsod, 
 
 C o VNS. Bar Sir, Ifpeakeit not in other refpefl: then 1: 
 think it dangerous for the iCina CO aderable the three eftaics, 
 for thereby hauc our former Kings alw ayes loft lomwhat of 
 their prerogativfs. And becaule that y©u fhajl not thinkc that 
 J fpeakc it ac randome, I; will bt^gin with elder timcs,where- 
 sn the firlt contention'began becwixtcheKingsof thisland^ , 
 and their fjbiedts in Parliament.. 
 
 LvsT. Your Lordffiip (ball doe me a lingular favour. 
 
 Go V N s. You know that thcKings of £»^/««^had nofor- 
 juall Parliament rili abouc the 1 8. yeare of Hmry the fkft, tor 
 in his I7« yeare, for the narriage of his daughter, the King 
 jaifed a tax vpon eucry hide ot iaad by the advice of his prr« ^ 
 
Ri) 
 
 vy councell alonV.But yeti may reiceimbcthow tbe fAit^i 
 foonc after ihe cftabliftimcr t of this Parliament, begancc to 
 ftandvpon tcrires with tbe King, and drew from bijn by 
 flrong hand and the fword the great Charter^ 
 
 I VST, Your Lordfhipfayei wdl, they drew from the 
 King the great Charter by the fwcrd , and hereof the Paflia- 
 n^.cnt cannot be accufcd, but the Lor^s. 
 
 C o V N s. You fay well , but it was after the eflablini- 
 • irent of the Parliament, and by colour of it, that they had fo 
 great daring, for before that time they could not endure c» 
 heare of St. Edrvare^shxses , butrefifted the confirmation in 
 all they could,although by thofelawestheSubjcdU ©f this 
 Hand were no klTcfrce then any of all Eurrpa 
 
 I VST. My good Lord, the reafon is manifeftjfot white 
 the Nnmans 5c other of the Freneh that followed the Con- 
 qnerour,made fpoilcof the EngUjh, they would not endure 
 that any thing butthe will of the Conqucrour (hould ftand 
 for Law- butafteradifccnt or two when themfelucs were 
 become EngUfii & found thcmfelvcs beaten with their own 
 fods,they then began to favour the difference bctwecne fub« 
 jeftion and flavery,&: infift vpon the Uw^A^eum^ Tt*um', 3c 
 to be able to fay vntothemlelues, hoc fuc & vives : yea that 
 the conquering £»^/i/^ in /rr/*««<rf did the like, your Lord- 
 fliip knowes it better then L 
 
 C o V N s. I thinkc you guefTe aright; Aftd Co the end the 
 fubjedf may know that being afaithiull fcrvant to his Prince 
 he might cnioy his owne life, and paying to his Prince what 
 belongs to aSoveraigne, the remainder was his own todif» 
 pole* Henry the firft to content his Vallalls , gaue them the 
 great (^barter yZnd the Charter of For tfis, 
 I V s T.W hat reafo then had KJoh» to deny the co^rmatio? 
 C o v N s. He did nor, but he en the cocrary cocfiimcd both 
 the Charters with additions^andrequif ed the Pope whom h€ 
 had the mace bisfuperiot toftrcngthe him with a geldebaS, 
 
 I V s T. But your honour Jcnowes, that it was not long 
 after, that he repented himlelfe. 
 
 C Y N s.It is true,dJ he had reafon fo to do,for the BaronS 
 
 B 2 refu* 
 
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 fefufed to follow him into France, il they oiigKf to hatfd 
 donc,and to fay true,this^r*4t Chrter vpon which you in*-" 
 fift To much, was not originally granted Regally aad freely .• 
 for Hffirf the firft did vfiirpe the Kingdomc , and therefore 
 the better to alTurc himfclfe againft Rdhert his eld eft bro- 
 ther, he flattered his Nobility and people with thofe Char- 
 ters. Yea King lebn that confirmed them had the like re- 
 fpc(S; fot yirthftr-Dukz of B»'//4i»«, was rhevndoubtedheire 
 of the Crownc , vpon whom !oh» v(urped. And To to con- 
 clude^thefe Charters had their originall from Kings dt faUo^ 
 hvituoidttHTt, 
 
 I vs T, But King lohn confirmed the Charter after the 
 death of his nephew Arthur , when he was then J^x de inre 
 ajifoi 
 
 CovN^. Itistrue,for hcdarft doeno other, ftandiag 
 istccurred,vvhereby few or none obeyed him, for his Nobility 
 refufed to follow him into Scotlmti: and he had fo grieved 
 the people by pulling downe all the Parke pales before har- 
 veft. to the end his Deere might fpoilc the Corne ; And by 
 feizing the temporalities of fo many Biflioprickes into his 
 hands^ and chiefly for praftifing the ^death of the Duke of 
 Bmr<i»/«f his Nephew , as alfo having loft Normandy to the 
 FrcMch, fo as the hearts of all nieQ .were turned from 
 liim. 
 
 I V s T. Nay by your favour inty Lord j King lehv reft o- 
 fed K.£<iji^4ri/Lawes after his abfolution , and vrote his 
 letters in the 1 5> of his Reigiic to all Shcrilfes, countermaii- 
 ding all former oppreirion8,yeathis he did notwkhftaiiding 
 the Lords refufed to follow him into France, 
 
 CoVNS. Pardonme, he did not reft ore King E^ft^o*^^; 
 L^wes then, nor yet confirmed the Charters, but he promi- 
 fcd vpon his abfolution to doe both: but after his returnc 
 out of Fr4«':*j in his \6\ yearehc denied if, bccaufe without 
 fuch aproftiife ht! had not obtained reftitution, hispromifc 
 kciagconftrained, and not voluntary, 
 
 I VST. Bit what thinkc yott? was h^ not bouJsd in 
 ls©HOut to pcrf^vmc it?- 
 
r C 6 V N fi? Ccnainly no, for it was detci'ttiined tTie cafe 
 of King Francis the firft o£FfaHct , that all promifes by him 
 niade, whilfthc was inthe handsof CW/« the fife his ene- 
 my, were void, by rcafon the ludgc of honour , which tdl» 
 vs he duift doe no other. 
 
 I VST. But King /tfA» was not in prifon, 
 
 C o V N s. Ycc for all that , rcftrainc is imprifonment^ 
 yci, fearc it felfc is impfifonment, and the King was fubieiS 
 to bothrlknow there isnothing more kingly in a Kingjthem 
 the performance of his word j bur yet of a word freely and 
 voluntarily given.Neither was the Charter of /i/^wy^ the firft 
 fo publifhedjthat all men might plead it for their advantage: 
 but a Charter was left ( in depofito ) m the hands of the Arch- 
 bi(hop of CanterhMY) for the time , and fo to his fuccclfourSi . 
 StephsH Lmfthott^-^ho was ever a Tray tor to the King, pro* 
 duced this Charter, and fliewed it to the Barons,thcreby en- 
 couraging them to make warre againft the King, Neither 
 wasic tkcold Charter fimply the Barons fought to haue co- 
 firmed, but they prefented vnto the King other articles and • 
 orders, ten ding to the alteration of the whole Common- 
 Wealth : which when che Kingrefufed toflgne, the Barons 
 prcfencly put themfelres into the field,and in rebellious and 
 oacragiousfafhion fentthe Kingword,:except he confirmed 
 them, they would not dcfift from making warre againft h im 
 till he had fatisficd them thejein.And in conclufion.theKiDg 
 being betrayed of all his Nobility, in cffe(f^ was forced to 
 grant thaCharter of Magna Charta^ and Charta de Fore ■ 
 j?if, at fuch time as hewasinvironed with an Army in the 
 meadowes of Sujisss , which Charters being procured by 
 force,Popc ImtaffeKt afterward difavovved, and threatned to 
 cur.fe the Barons , ifthcyfubmittcdnoc themfelves as they 
 ought to their Soveraignc Lord , which when the Lords re- 
 fufcd to obey, the King enterteined an army of ftrangcrs for 
 his ownc defence, wherewith having mattered & beaten the 
 JBarons, thej called in Lervif oiFranee{z raoft vnnaturall re* 
 foIution)to be their King* Neither was M^g^a Charta a law 
 sgcheip. ;0ffftf»/^clic,2.- hut (imply a Chattcj: which iic 
 
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 coft firmed in the 21. of his rcigne, 5c mide it a '^hW in the 
 ij, aecording^>«A/<?»i opinion. Thus much for the be- 
 ginning of thc^rwr Charter ; which had fiift an obfcure 
 birth from vrurpation,and was Iccondiy foftercd & /bewe4 
 to the world by rebellion, 
 I VST. I cannot dciiy but that all your Lordlhip hath faid 
 is true; but fce;ing the Charters were afterwards fo many 
 times confirmed by parliameni,& made law«s,& that there 
 is nothing in them vnequali or prejudicial to the King:doth 
 not your Honour thinkeit reafon ihcy Ihould be obferued ? 
 CovN. YeSj & obferued they arc in all that the ftate of 
 a King can permit, for no man isdeftroyed but by thelawcs 
 of the land, no man dilTeized of tiis inheritance but by the 
 lawes of the land , impriioned they are by the prerogatiuc 
 where the King hath caufe rofufpefi their loyaltie:for were 
 it otherwire,the King fliould neucr come to the knowledge 
 ©fany confpiracy or ireafon againfthisPcrfon orflate, and 
 being imprilonedjyet doth not any man fuffer death butbjf 
 the law of the land* 
 
 IvsT, Butjuayitpleafeyour Lordfliip, Were not Certum 
 ^watiis^Sharpe^SaHoskitis imprifoncd being no iu/jpition of 
 treafon there? 
 
 CovNs. They were, but it cofl them nothing. 
 IvsT, And what got the King by it? for in the conclufi- 
 bn ( befidesthe murmurcof the people) Coruepf-B^^Sharpe, 
 .& Boil^ns hauing greatly ouerfl]Otthemfclues,and repented 
 them, a fine of 5 or 600 was laid on his Maiefty for their of, 
 fences, for fo much their diet coft his Maieily. 
 
 CovNS. I know who gauc the aduicc, fure I am that Ic 
 Was none of mine: Bur thus I fay , ifyoii confult your me- 
 mory, you fliali finde that is thofe kings which did in their 
 own times confirm e the Magna Charta , did not onely im- 
 prifoHjbut they caufed of their Nobilityanfd othersto bee 
 ilainc without hearing or tryall. 
 
 JvsT, My goodLorcf, ifyou willgiucmcleaue tofpcake 
 freely, I (ay,that they are not well advifed that perfwade the 
 King not to adm^ the Magna Charta yvich the former re- 
 
i(lbVvationi.For is the King cin ncrer lofc 1 farthhig ty iVlS 
 I (liall pcoue anon: So except En^U/td were sls Naples is, «n4 
 kcpr by Garnfons of »nochcr Nation , it is impoflikle for a 
 Kin^ofE/tgUnd togreaten andcnrich himfclfcby any way 
 fa alTurcdly, as by the loue of his people: For by one rebelli- 
 on thcKm^ hath morcloir^ then by a hundred y cares obfcr« 
 vanceoi M^ifftCharta: For therein haac our Kings beene 
 forced co co.iipoand with Roagues and R^bells, and to par- 
 don thcm,yea the ftacc of the icing, the Monarchy, the No- 
 bility haue bccnc endangered by them, 
 
 C o V M s.Well Sir, let that pa(re,why fhould not out king* 
 utifemsnyasthekingsofpy^wfftf doe by their letters andE- 
 diftsonly? for fiticc the time of Leaves the ii, of whom 
 leisfaid, that he freed the FrrwA kings of their Ward/hip, 
 the Frtf«fJ& kings haue feldome alTembled the Stares for any 
 contribution. 
 
 I VST, I will tell yoa why; theftrength of £»g//i».!i doth- 
 confift of the People and Yeo.nanry , the Pefants of France 
 Iiaucnocoura[7cnor armes : In frame every Village and 
 Biirrough hath rj Cadle, which the French aW Cha/ieAttyil* 
 iaiHy every good Cicty hath a good Citcadell, the king hath 
 the Regiments of his guards and his men at armcs alwayes 
 m pay; yea the Nobility of France in whom the ftrength of 
 JFr<«»ctfconfifts,doca]waycs3/Ijlt their king in thefe leavie* 
 becaufethemfelves being free, they make the fame leavfes 
 vpon their Tenants, Butray Lord,ifyou markeit, France 
 was never free in cffeft from civill warres , and lately ''it was 
 endangered either to be conquered by the Sp4mard,oi- to be 
 canronizedby the rebellious Fr^«r/& themfclves, fincc that • 
 freedome of Wardihi.x Bat my good Lord, to jauc this di« 
 gredion, that wl-er^n I vvoald wilhng'y facisfieyoJr lord^- 
 ihip.is , that the Kings ofEfig/andhzve never received loffc ' 
 by Parliiment, or prejudice* 
 
 CovNS. NoS.r,you fhal! find that the rubie51s in Parlia- 
 ment haue decreed great tfhings to the dUadvanCace and cii('^ 
 honour of our kings in former times^ 
 
r V s Ti Mr! oold Lbrd, to avoid cbhfufion ; I will make 
 4 /horf^pcrition of tncm alJ, and then your Lordfhip may 
 oticd where you fee caii£c ; And I doubt not but to giuc 
 your Lordfliip fatisfa(^ion. In the fixt year c of Btnrj the j. 
 there Was no dirpute, the houfc gauc the Kwig two/hiUing* 
 of every plough land within England, and in the end of the 
 fame yeare he had cfcuage paid him ( to wit ) for every 
 Knights fee two markes in filvcr. In the fifth ycare of that 
 ICing, the Lords demanded the confirmation of the GreaC 
 Charter which the Kings Counccll for that time prefcnt ex- 
 cufcdjalkdgingthat thofe privilcdgcs, were extorted by 
 force during the Kings Minority > and yet the King was 
 pleafed to fend forth his writ to the Sheriffcs ofcuery Couci* 
 ty,rcquiring them to certifiewhat thofe liberties were, and 
 how vfcd, and in exchange of the Lords demand) becaule 
 they prefled him fo violently .'the king required all the eaftlef 
 &: places, which the Lords held of his,& had held in the time 
 of his Father, with thofe Manors and Lordfliips which they 
 had heretofore wrcfted from the Crownc, which at that 
 timcCthc King being provided cf force8)thcy durfl not deny. 
 In the 14. yeare he had the ly. penny of all goods given him 
 vpon Condition to confirmc the great Charter: For by rcafon 
 of the wars in France , and the lotle of RecheHy he was then 
 enforced tocofcnt to the Lords in all they demanded.In the 
 lo.of his rcigne hee fined the Citty oi London at 50000. 
 markcs , bccaufc they had received Z.«)r*lr of Fr^wr. In the 
 u. yeare ia the Parliament at Oxford^ he revoked the great 
 Charter being granted when he was vnder age,& governed 
 hy the Baric oi Pemhrekf, and the Bifhop of fVinehefier, Ja 
 this IE. yeare the Earlcs of Ctfr/^erw^i? and ^^f/?f/', Marfliall, 
 JEdw4rd Earle of Pembroke , Cilkert Earle of CUficefier ^ 
 Warren, Hertjerd, Ierrars^& fVarwickfiZnd others rebelled a- 
 gainft the King, and conftrained him to yeeld vnto thcra in 
 what they demaundcd for their particular intereft, which 
 lebellion beingappeafedjbe failed into France^znd in his i$»' 
 yeare he had a 15. of the temporality, & a difnic& a halfc of 
 |fec Spirituality , and w ithall cfcuage of every Knights fee* 
 ^ " Coy as* 
 
(9) 
 
 CovNs, But what fay you to the Parliament of pr'<?/?«w- 
 fter i n the fixtccnth ycere of the King,whcre not w ithftanding 
 the w:^vvtsc( France, aod his great charge in repulfingthc 
 Wf/Jh r< bcLsj be was flitly dcnyed the Subledy demanded. 
 
 I V s T. I confcfte, my Lord, that the boofe cxcufed thcm- 
 feliies by reafon of their pouertie, and the Lo: ds taking of 
 Armes ; in the next y eet e, it was manifcft that the houfc was 
 pradifedagainft the King : And was it not fo, try good Lord 
 thinkcyou incur twolaft Parliamenrs, for in thefirft euen 
 thofc whom his Maieftie truftcd moft, betrayed him in the 
 vnion, and in the fecond there were other of the great oties 
 ran counter. But your Lordfliip fpake of dangers of Parlia- 
 ments, in this, any Lord, there was a denial!, but there was 
 no danger at aJ! : But to returne where I lefr, what got the 
 Lords by pradizing the houfc at that time ? I fay that thofc 
 that brake thisftaffe vpon the King, wereouer turned with 
 the counterbuffe, for hee refufed all thofe lands which hee had 
 giuen in hisminotirie, hee called all hisexading officers to 
 accQoipt, he found them all faulty, hee examined the corrup- 
 tion of other Magiftrates, and from all thefe hee drew fuffici- 
 ent money to fatiifie his prcfenc necefsitic, whereby hee not 
 onclyrpaied his people, but highly contented them with an 
 ad of lo great luftice : Yea Hubert Eare of Kent, the chiefc 
 Itiflice (fhom hcehad moft trufted, and moft aduanced, was 
 found as falfe to the King,as any one of the reft. And for con- 
 clufion in the end of that yeerc, at the affcmbly oi the States 
 at Lambeth, the King had the fortieth part of euery mans 
 goods giuen him freely towards his debts, for the people, 
 who the fanne yeerc had refufed togiue the King anything, 
 when they faw hee had fqueafed thofe fpungcs of the Com- 
 mon- wealth,they willingly yeeldcdto giue him fatisfadion. 
 
 CoVNs. But I pray you, what became of this Hnbert, 
 whom the King had fauouired aboue all men, betraying his 
 Maieftie as he did. 
 
 I V ST. There was many that perfwaded the King to put 
 him CO death, but be could not bee drawne to confenc, but the 
 
 C King 
 
King feized vpon his cftatc which was great ; yet in the end 
 hce left him a fufficient portion, and gaae him his life be, 
 caufc hee had done great feruicc in former times : For his 
 Maieftie, though heetookc aduantagc of his vice, yet hee 
 forgot not to haue confideration of his venue. And vpon 
 this occafionit was that the King, betrayed by thofe whom 
 hee moft truQed, entertained ftrangers, and gauc them their 
 Offices, and the charge of his Caftlcs and Itrong places in 
 England. 
 
 Co V N s . But the drawing in of thofe Strangers was the 
 caufe thit JUarfiiaS Earle oiTembreke mooued warrcagainft 
 the Kingi 
 
 I V s T. It is true, my good Lord, but hee was foonc after 
 flaine in Ireland^ and his whole Mafculme race, ten yeeres ex- 
 tinguiflivdjthough there were Hue Sonnes of them,and M<*r' 
 JhiiJi being dead,whG was the raoouer, and ring-leader of chat 
 warre, the King pardoned the reft of the Lords chat hadafsi- 
 fted MarJhalL 
 
 Cx>vNs. What rcafon had the King fo to doc? 
 I V s T. Becaufc hee was fo perfwadcd,that they loued his 
 ■Pcrfon, andonely hated thofe corrupt" Counfelours,that then 
 bare the greateft fway vndcr him, as alfo becaufe they were 
 thebeft men of warre hee had, whoai if he deftroyed, hauing 
 warre with the French^ he had wanted Co.iimanders to haue 
 feruediiina. 
 
 Gov N s . But what reafon had the Lords to take armes,? 
 I V s T. Becaufe the King entertained the Peitlouim^^xe. 
 not they the Kings vaflals alfo? Should the 5f^w<<r^jrebell, 
 becaufe the Spantjh King trufts to the T^opolitans , 'PorU" 
 ^uest tJMillanaiest and other Nations his vaffals/fecing thofe 
 that are gouerned by the Vice-roy es and Depu' ies,are in pol- 
 licy to bee well entertained, and to be employed, who would 
 ©tnerwife deuifc how to free thenrfelues j whereas, being 
 trufted and imployed by their Prince, they entertained thcm- 
 felues with the hopes that others the Kings vaflals doe : if the 
 King had called in the Sfamards, or other Nations, not his 
 
 Subiec^s 
 
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 Subieds, the Nobilitie of EtigUnd had had reafon of griefej 
 But what people dideuer feiuc the King of England more 
 faithfully then the Gafcoynes did caen to the lilt of the Con- 
 queft of chat Duchy. 
 
 I V s T. Your Lordlhip fayes well.and I am of that opinion 
 that if it bad picafed the Queene of EnvUnd ro haue dcawne 
 fomc of che chicfe of the In^ Mobih'tie into England, and by 
 CJcdnnge lo haue made rhemgood freeholders in ^w^/^«<^, 
 ilie had faued aboue two Millions of pounds which verc con- 
 fumed in times of thofe Rebellions, For what heldthe great 
 Cafcoigne firme to the Croune of EngUni ( of whom the 
 Duke oi EJpermn married the Inheritrix) but \m Earldotneof 
 Kend^U in 6'>iglam^j'y/v\Kf^Q( thQ Duke of E^erKon (in right 
 of his wife) bearcsrhetitieto this day. And to the fame end I 
 take it, hath lames our Soueraignr Lord giuen lands codi- 
 uers of the Nobilirie of Scotland. And if I were worthy to 
 adnifc your Lordlhip, I fhould thinke that your Lordfhip 
 Ihould doc the King great feruicc to put him in minde to pfo-. 
 hibife all the ScottipiNsLtion to alienate and' fell away their 
 inheritance here; for they felling, they notonely giue eaafe 
 to the E»glifi} to complaine that the rreafureof S/igUnd is 
 . tranfported into Scotland, but his Maieftie is thereby alio 
 fruftrated of making both Nations one, and of affuring tlie 
 feruice and obedience of the Scots in future. 
 
 CoVNS. You fay well, for though thofe of Scotiand that 
 areaduanced, and enriched by the Kn^s Maiefiies will, no 
 doubt fcrue him faithfully, yet how their Heircs and fucccf- 
 fours, hauing no inheritance to looPc in EngUndmzy bcefe-^ 
 duced is vncertaine. But let vs goc on with our Parliamenr. 
 And what fay you to the deniall in the fixe and tvrcntiechyeere 
 of his reigne, euen when the King was inuited to cotne into 
 France by the Earle of <J^^rc/3 who had married his M'^ther, . 
 and whopromifed toafiilt che King in the Conqucll of ajany 
 places loft, 
 
 Iv s. ] c is true,my good Lord,t''atarub(Tiy was then deni- 
 cd,and the re fons are d-liuered in £«g/ /j hillorie*:,^ in' 'eed 
 the King ni>c long before had fpentmuch treafare iv\ a'" i*^rg 
 
 C a.- ^ii>s 
 
tbe Duke of Britaioe to no purpofc, for hec 4rew cuer the 
 King but to draw^ on good condirioiis for hifrXclfc, as the 
 Earle oizyMarch his father in law now did : As the Englifh 
 Barons did inuite Lewes of France not long before, as in el- 
 der times,all tbe-Kings and States hadd0ne,and in lat-e yccres 
 ths Leaguers of Frame entertained the S^niards, and the 
 Fr^w^ Proteftants, and Netherlands, Q^cziz£lix.^btth,v\ol 
 'with aiiy jMirpofe to greaten thofc that aide then^,but to pur- 
 chafe to tbemfelues an aduantagcous Peace. But what fay 
 the Hiftorics to this dcnbll ? they Dy with a world of pay- 
 ments there flnemioned, that the King had irawne the Nobi- 
 litie drie. And befidcs, that whereas not long before great 
 fummes of money were giuen, andthe fame appointed ro bee 
 kept in foure Caftles, and not to bee expet.ded but by the ad- 
 uice of the Pceres ; it was belecued tliat the fame rreafure 
 was yet vnfpent. 
 
 Co V N s . Good Sir, you haue faid enough,iudge you whe- 
 ther it were not a dillionour to the King to bee fo ty ed,3s not 
 to expend hisTreafure, but by other mensaduceasicwere 
 by their licence. 
 
 I V s T. Surely my Lord,thc King was well aduifcd to take 
 the money vpon any condition^ and they were foolcs that 
 propunded the reftraint, for it doeth not appeare that the 
 King tooke any great heed to thofe ouerfccrs. Kwgi are boiind 
 by their Pietie, and by no other obligation. In Qucene fJJ^aries 
 tirae,when it was thoughtthat Ihe was with chi!d,it was pro- 
 pounded in Parliamentjthat the rule of the Realme Ihouldbee 
 giuen to King FhiUp during the minority of the hoped Prince 
 or PriRCcffe,& the King offered his aflurance in great fummes 
 of money to relinquilh the gouernment at fuch time as the 
 Prince or Priiiceflc fhould be of age : At which motion when 
 all elfe were fiient inthe honfe. Lord Dmvcs (who was none 
 of thewifeft ) asked whoiball fue the Kings bondcs, which 
 ended the difpute, for what bond is betweene a King and 
 his valTals, then the bond of the Kings Faith. ) But my good 
 Lord, the King notwithilanding the denial! at that time 
 was with gifts trom particular perfons, and otberwife fupply- 
 
 cd 
 
ed for proceeding of his iouroey for that time into France, he 
 tookewithJiim thirtie Caskes filled with filuerand coyne, 
 which was a great Ti^allire m thofe da}'es. And iaftly, not- 
 withftaading the firft denyall intl-ie Kings abfent he had E£cu- 
 age granted him (to wit) 20 $. of euery Knights Fee. 
 
 Gov N s . W hat lay you then to the 28 . yeere of that King, 
 invvhich when the King demanded reliefe, the States would 
 not confent exce|>t the fame former order had beene taken for 
 the appointing of fouie Ouerleers for the treafure. As alfo 
 that the Lordchiefe luftice and the Lr rd Chancellor iLoald be 
 chofen by the States with fome Barons-of the Exchequor and 
 other officers. 
 
 I vs. My good Lord,admit the King had yeelded their de- 
 mands, then whatfoeuer h id beene ordained by thofe Magi- 
 ftrates to the diflike of the Common-wealth, the people had 
 beene without remedy, whereas while the King made them, 
 they had their Appeale and other remedies. But thofe de- 
 mands vaniflied, and in the end, the King had Efciiage giueii 
 him, without any of their conditions. It is an excellent ver- 
 tue in a King to haue patience, and to glue way to the furie of 
 mens pafsions. The W hale when he is ftroken by the Fiflier- 
 man, growes into that farie,that he cannot be refifted,but will 
 ouerthrow all the Ships and Barkes that come into his way, 
 but when he hath tumbled a while, he is drawne to thcfhore 
 with a twine thred . 
 
 Cov N s . What fay you then to the Pai-liament in the nine 
 and twentieth yeere of that King. 
 
 I VST. I fay that the Commons being vnable to pay, the 
 King relieues'himfelfe vpon the Richer fort, audio it likewife 
 happened in the 55. of the King, in which heewas relieued 
 chiePely by the Citie of London. But my good Lord, in the 
 Parliament in London, in the 3 8. yeere,hee had giuen him the 
 tenth of all the Reuenues of the Church for three yeeres, and 
 three markes of cuery knights fee throughout the kingdome, 
 vpon his promiie & oath vpon the obferuing o£f»a^na Charta 
 but in the end of t5|j| fame y eere,the king being then in France, 
 he was denyed the aides which hee required. What is this to 
 
 C 3 the 
 
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 the danger of a Parliament? efpecially at this time they had 
 rcafon to refufejthey had giuen fo great a fummc ia the begin- 
 ning of the fame y eare And ag lin becaufe it was known that 
 the Ki.g had but pretended warre with the king of Caftilc 
 withwhon)heljadfecrctly concradcd an alliance and con- 
 cluded a mariage betwecne his Sonne Edward and the Lady 
 Slemr. Thcfe falfe fires doe but fright Children and it 
 commonly falksout that when the caufe giuen is knowne to 
 be falfe, theneccltity prctendfd is thought tobeefained, 
 Royall dealing hath euerraore Royall fuccefTc t and as the 
 King was denied in the eight and thirtieth yeare, fowashec 
 dented in the nine and thirtieth yeare, becaufe the Nobility 
 and the people faw it plainely that the King was abufed by 
 the Pope, who afwell in defpite to Manfred baftard fon to 
 the £mperour Frederkh the fecond^s to cozen the King and 
 CO waft him, would needs beftow on the King the kingdomc 
 of Sicilicj to recouer which, the King fent all the Treafurc 
 he could borrow or fcrapc to the Pope, and withall gaue him 
 letters oFcredence, for to take vp what he could in Italy, the 
 King binding hin^felfe for the payment. Now ray good Lord 
 the wifdome of Princes is fecn in nothing more then in their 
 enterprifes. So hovy vnpleafing it was to the State of Eng- 
 land to confume the treafure of the Land, and in the cojiqueft 
 of Sicily, fo iarreof, and otherwifc for that the Englifli had 
 lofi: t4ormandy vnder their nofes and fo many goodly parts, 
 ofFranccoftheiro^nc proper inheritances : the reafon of 
 thcdcniallisas welltobe confideredasthedeniall. 
 
 Cons. Was not the King alfo dvnyed a Subfidy in the 
 fourry firft of his raigne. 
 
 Iv jSt . No my Lord, for although the King required mo- 
 ny as before for the impofsible conqueft of Sicily , yet the 
 Houfi offered to giue jiooomarkes, which whither hce re- 
 fufed or accepted is vnccrtaine,& whilft the King dreamed ©f 
 Sicily, the Wel(h inuaded and fpoyled the borders of Eng, 
 land, for in the Parliament of London j whenrhc Ki''g vrged 
 the he vSe for the profecuting the coqueft^TSicily , the L >rds 
 utterly Qifliking the attempt , vrged the profccatif^^ of the 
 
 Wtiihj^cn 
 
05) 
 Welflimcn : which Parliament being prorogcd did again af- ^ ^^ ^^ 
 femble at Oxford, & was called the tnaddeParlament, which i*^«^^^ 
 was no other then an affcmbly of rebels, for the Royal! affenc 1!/^^!^ 
 of the K. which gines life to all lawcs, form'd by the three 
 eftatcsjvas not a Royal aflVntjWhcn both the K. & the Prince 
 were cod rained to yceldtothe Lords, A conftrained confenc 
 is the confenc of a Capriue,and not of a K- and therefore there 
 was nothing done there either legally or royally. For if it be 
 not properly a Parliament where the fubitd is not free, cer- 
 tainely It can be none where the King is bound, for all King- 
 ly rule was taken from the King, and tweluc Peercs appoin- 
 ted, and as fame writers bauc ic24Peeres, to gotierne the 
 Realme, and therefore the aflembly made by fackjStra^^^e and 
 other rebels n^ay afw^cl be called a Parliament as that of Ox- 
 ford* Princifisnomenhnbereiftonefi ejfe PrincepSt for thereby 
 wasthe King driuen not only to compouud all quarrels with 
 the French, but to hauc meanes to be revenged on the rebell 
 Lordsvbut he quitted his right to Normady Aniou & Maync. 
 
 CovNs.Butfir, what needed this extremity, feeing the 
 Lords required but the confirmation of the former Charter, 
 which was not preiadiciaU to the King to graunt ? 
 
 IvsT. Ycsmy good Lord, but they infultcd vpcn the 
 King,and would not fuffer him to encer into his own Caftles, 
 they put downe the Purueyor ©f the meatc for the mainetc- 
 nancc ofhishoufe, as if the King had beene a bankrupt, and 
 gauc order that without ready money he Ihouid not rake vp 
 a ChfckenfAnd though there is nothing againft the Royalty 
 of a King in thefe Charters (the Kings of England beeing 
 Kings offrcemen and not of flaues) yet it is (o contrary ro 
 the nature of a King to be forced cncn to thofe things which 
 may bee to his aduanrage, as the King had fomc rcafon to 
 feekethedifpcnfationqt his Oath from the Pope, and to 
 drawc in ftrangers for his owne dc fence ; yea lurefdm Co- 
 rona noflrdt is inicndedinclufiuely in all oarhcs. and promifcs 
 exaded from aSoueraigne, : . U'O -c:< ;-; u "^\. V'*^ ** 
 
 Cov N. But you caaot be ignorant'ho'W xiangerohs a thin^ 
 ic is to call in ocher nat.iQjbu^ for the Ipoile they makcas al- 
 
 fo 
 
its') 
 
 (bjbccaufc they haue ofen kli3 the polVcfsipn of the beft pla- 
 ces with which they h^ue beene tniftcd 
 
 IvsT. lets true my good Lbai, char there iftrothmg Co 
 daungerous for a K ng as to be conftrain d ami he'd as prifo- 
 ner to his vaffa'.s, tor by ih^t:^B'dW'frd the ff.QC'cJ^^n ^ Rtchard 
 the fccond loft their Kingdomes and their lines. And for cA- 
 Hngifiof ftrangers, was not Km^ Edward the fixth driucn 
 to call in ftnin^ers againft the rebels in Noifolke, Corne- 
 wall, Oxfordfliirc and elfewhere ? Haae not the Kings of 
 Scotland bene oftentines conftrained co cntertaine ftrangers 
 againftthe Kings of England, And the King of England at 
 this time had he nobindtiierfetimesarsiftedby the Kings of 
 Scotland, had bin endangered co haue bin expelled for eucr. 
 Gov Ns. But yet you know thofc Kings were depofed by 
 Parliament. 
 
 I V ST. Yea my good Lord being prif^ners, being out of 
 poflfefsion, and being in their hands that were Princes of the 
 blood and pretenders. It \s an; old Countrcy prouerbe : (that 
 imght ouercomes right : ) a weake title that wcares afhong 
 fword^ commonly preuailes againft a ftroiig title that weares 
 buta Weake onejOtherwife PhtUp the (econd had neuer becrifc 
 Duke of Portugall,nor pake of Millaine,nor King of Naples 
 and Scicilie. But gQoSjLoid^Errorcs nsnfunt traberidi in exem- 
 flum • I rpeake of regall, peaceable, andlawfuli Parliaments, 
 The King at this tine was but a King in namc/or Gloceftcr, 
 Leycefter and Chicheftcr made choife of other nine, to whom 
 the rule of the Realme was cerrmittcd, and the Prince u^as 
 forced to purchafe bis libertie from the Earlc of Leycefter, 
 bygiuingfor hisranfomc the County Pallatine of Chefter. 
 But my Lord let vs iudge of thofe occafions by their euents, 
 what became of this |rroud Earic ? was hee not foone after 
 flaine in Eueftiam } was he not left naked in the field,and left 
 a (hamcfull fpeftacle, his head being cut off from his (houl- 
 ders^his priuy parts from his bodv',and laid on each ide of his 
 nofc? Anddiditot God extinguilh his race, after which in a 
 lawfull Parliament at Wcftrainfter (confirmed in a follow- 
 ing Parliament of Weftiminfter) were not all the Lords that 
 
 followed 
 
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 followed Ley cefter difinheritcd ? And when that foole Glo- 
 ccfter, after the death of LeyceRer (whom hec had formerly 
 forfaken) made himfelfc the head of a fccond Rebellion, and 
 called in ftrangcrs, for which not long before he had cried out • 
 aeainft the K. was not he in the end, after that he had fecne 
 the daughter of fo many of the Barons, the fpoile of their Ca- 
 ftles and Lordfhips conftrained to fubmit himlelfc, as all the 
 furuiuersdid, of which they thatfpedbeft, paid their fines 
 and ranfomes, the King referuing to his younger Tonne, the 
 Earledoracs of Leycefter and Derby. 
 
 Gov N s . Well fir,we haue difputed this King to his graue, 
 though it be trae,thac he outl iued al 1 his enemics,and brought 
 them toconfufion, yctthofc exaa.ples didnoi:terrifie their 
 fucceffors, bat the Earle iJMarfijaU. a«d Hereford, threatned 
 iCing£^w^''^thefirft,withanewwarre. 
 
 IV s T They did fo, but after the death cf Hereford, the 
 Earle MarJhaS repented himfclfe, and to gaine the Kings fa- 
 uour, he made him heire of all his Lands. But what is this to 
 the Parliament? for there was neuer Kmgof this land had 
 more giuen him for the time of his Raigne, then Edward the 
 fonne of Henry the third had. 
 
 CoVNS. Howdoethitappeare? 
 
 I V ST. In this fort my good Lord,tnthis Kings third y cere 
 hee had giuen him the fifteenth part of all goods. In his fij^t 
 yeere a twentieth : in his twelfth yeerc a twentieth : m his 
 fourcteenth yeere he had Efcuage (to wit) fourtie (hillings of 
 cuery Knights Fee : in his eighteenth yeare hee hadtheele- 
 ucnthparcof allmoueable goods vvithinthckingdome,inhis 
 nineteenth yeere the tenth part of all Church liuings in Sng- 
 land, Scotland, and Ireland, for (ixe yeeres, by agreement 
 from the Pope/m his three and twentith yeere he raifed ataxe 
 vpon wooll and fcls.& on aday caufed al the religious houfes 
 to be fearchcd,&al thetreafure inthetobefeized & brought 
 to his coffers, excufiug himlelfe,, by laying the fauk vpon his 
 crearurer,he hadalfo in the end of the fame yeere,of al goods, 
 of all Burgefles, and of the Commons the lo, part : in the a j, 
 yeere of the Parliament of S. EdmHndshfiry,Ue had an 1 8. part 
 of the eoods of the Burgefles, and of the people in generall, 
 *" D the 
 
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 the tenth part. Hechad alfothe fameyeerc by putting the 
 Clergy out of his protedion a fift part of their gcx)d"j, and in 
 the fame ycerc he let a great taxe vpon woolls, to wit, ff om 
 halfeamarke to 40, (hillings vpon cucry facte, whereupon 
 the Earle Marshall, and the Earle of Hereford refufing to at- 
 tend the King into Flanders, pretended the greeuances of the 
 people. But in the enJ, the King hauing pardoned them,and 
 confirmed the great Charter, hce had the; ninth penny of all 
 goods, from the Lords and Commons of the Clergy, in the 
 South he had the tenth penny,and in the North the fife penny. 
 In the two and thirtieth yecre, he had aSubfedy freely gran- 
 ted : in the three and thirtieth yeerc, hce confirmed the great 
 Charter of his ownc Royal! difpoficion, and the States to 
 <hew their thankcfulnefle,gauc the King for one y eerc,the fife 
 part of all the rcucnues of the land^ & of the Citizens the fixt 
 |)art of their goods. And the fame yeere the King vfed the 
 Inquifition, called Trai U ^Bafien, By which all luftices and 
 other Magiftrates were grieuoufly fined, that had vfed extor- 
 tion, or bribery, or had othcrwife mifdcmeaned themfelues to 
 the great contentation of the people. This Comroifsion like- 
 wife did enquire of Intrudcrs,Barrators and all other the like 
 Vcrmine, whereby the King gathered a great maflfe of Trea- 
 fiire with a great deale of loue. Now for the whole raigne of 
 this King, who goucrncd England 3 j. yeeres, there was not 
 any Parliament to his prciudice. 
 
 CovNs. But there was taking of armes by MarJhaSand 
 Hereford^ 
 
 I V s T. That's true, but why was that ? becaufe the kingi 
 notwithftanding all that was giuen him by Parliament, did 
 lay the greateft taxes that euer King did without their con- 
 fent. But what loft the King by thofc Lords ? one of them 
 gaue the King all his lands, the other died in difgrace. 
 
 CoVNS. But what fay you to the Parliament in Sdvpard 
 the feconds time, his fucceiTor : did not the houfe of Parlia- 
 ment baniih Feirct Ganeflottwhom the King fauoured.^ 
 
 Iv s T. Bat what was this GaHefion, but an Efquire ofGaJl 
 $me, formerly banifht the Realme by King Edward the firft, 
 
 for 
 
dp) 
 
 for corrupting the Prince Edward, now raigniog. And the 
 whole Kingdoms fearing, and detefting his venomous difpo- 
 fition, they befought his Maicftie to caft him off, which the 
 King performed by an ad of his oWne,and not by ad of Par- 
 liament, yea, Ganeftons ownc father in law, the Earlc of gio- 
 cefter, was one of the chiefeft of the Lords that procured it. 
 And yet finding the Kings affeft ion to follows him fo ftrongly, 
 they all confented to haue him recalled. After which.when his 
 credit fo increafcd, that heedefpifed and fetat naught all the 
 auncicnt Nobilitie, andnoconelyperfwadedcheKingtoall 
 manner of outrages and riots, but withall tranfpor ted what 
 he lifted of the Kings Treafure, and lewels, the Lords vrged 
 his banifhmenc the fecond time, but neither was the firft, nor 
 fecond banifliment forced by ad of Parliament, but by the 
 forceable Lords his enemies. Laftly, hee being recalled by 
 the Kingjthe Earlc oiLancafter caufed his head to be ftricken 
 off, when thofe of his party had taken him prifoner. By 
 which prefnmptuous ad, the Earle and the reft of his com- 
 pany committed Treafon, and Murder; Treafon, by raifing 
 an Army withoat warrant,- Murder by taking away the life 
 of the Kings Subied. After which gauefion being dead, the 
 Spencers got poflcfsion of the Kings fauour, though the yon- 
 gcr of them was placed about the King by the Lords thcm- 
 fclues. 
 
 Gov N, What fay you then to the Parliament held at Lon- 
 don about the fixt y eere of that King ? 
 
 Iv s T, I fay,thac King was not bound to performe the ads 
 of this Parliament,becaufe the Lords being too ftrong for the 
 King,inforced his confenr,for thefe be the words of our owne 
 Hiftoryf Thtj ^rejitd iao much beyond the bounds of reafon. 
 
 Cov N 3 . What fay you to the Parliaments of the white 
 wands in the three and thirriethyeerc of the King. 
 
 Iv s T. I fay the Lords that were fo mooued, came with an 
 Army, and by ftrong hand furprifed the King, they conftrai^ 
 ned, ( faith the ftory) the reft of the Lords, and compelled 
 many of the Biftiops to confent vntothem; yea, it faith fijr- 
 tber, that the King durft not but grant to all that they requi- 
 
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red, ( to wit*) for the banifhcncnt of rhf Spencers, Yea they 
 were fo infolenr, that they refufcd to lodge the Qyeene com- 
 ming through Kent in theCaftleof Leedesy andfent her to 
 prouidc her lodging u'h:re {he could gee it fo late in the night; 
 for which notwithLknding , fjme that kept her out, were 
 foone after taken and hang'd; and therefore yT)ur Lordfhip 
 cannot call this a ParliaiiietiC for the reafons before allcaged. 
 But my Lord, what became of thcfe Lawgiuers to the King, 
 cuen when they were greateft, a Knight of the North called 
 Andrew //rr%/cj,aflembled the forces of the Countrey,ouer- 
 threwthetn and their Army, flew the Earleof Hereford and 
 other Barons, tooke their General! Thomat Earle of Lama. 
 fier» the Kings cozen- germane, at that time poffefled of fiue 
 Earledomcs, the Lords Clifford, Talbort, t^ovfbrajy Mm^ 
 diut, Wittingtorit Warren i\.ord Harcyy Withers, KneuiO, Ley- 
 h9urne, Bekfs, Lmdl, FitzjviHiams, Wateruild, and diuerfe 
 Other Barons, Knights, and Efquires, and foone afrer the 
 Lord P^rcjf.and the Lord Warren rooke the Lord 'Saldfemere, 
 and the Lord ^ftdle, the Lord Teis, Gtfford, Tuchet, and 
 many others that fled from the battaile, the moft ©f which 
 paft vnder the hands of the Hangman, for cohftraining the 
 King vnder the colour and name of a Parliament. But thi« 
 your good Lordfhip may iudge, to whom, thofe tumultuous 
 alTcmblies (which our Hiftoriesfalfely call Parliaments haue 
 bcene dangerous,the Kings in the end euer preuailed, and the 
 Lords loft their liues, and cftates. Afrer which the Spencers 
 in their banifhmcnt at T^?^^%, in the fifteenth yeerc of the 
 King, were reftorcd to their honours and eftates, and therein 
 the King had a Subfcdy giuen him, the fixt penny of goods 
 throughout England, freland, and Wales, 
 
 Cov N. Yetyou fee the Spencers were (bone after diflblued. 
 IvsT. It is true my Lord, but that is nothing to our fub- 
 ic6t of Parliament, they may thanke their owne infolencie, 
 for they branded, and defpifedthe Queene, whom they ought 
 t© haac honored as the Kings wife ; they were alfp exceeding 
 grcedy,& built thcmfelues <^pon other mens ruines,they were 
 ambitious and exceeding malicious, whereupon that came, 
 
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 that when Chambcrlainc Spencer was harg'd in Hereford, a ^ 
 part ot the Foure and twentieth Pf^lme was written ouer his '*'^ ^ ^ 
 head : Quidgloriaru in malitia fotens ? 
 
 Cov N s . Well fir, you haue all this while excufed your 
 felfe vpon the ftrength and rebellions of the Lords, but what 
 fay you now to King EdvfArd the third, in whofe time (and 
 during the time of this viftorious Kisg, no man durft take 
 Arfpes or rcbcll) the three eftatcs did him the greateft affront 
 that cuer King receiucd or endured, therefore I conclude 
 where I began, that thefe Parliaments are dangerous for a 
 King. 
 
 I V s T . To anf were your Lord (hip in order, may it plcafe 
 you firft to call to minde, what was giucn this great King by 
 his Subieds before the difpute betwixt him and the houfe 
 happened, which was in his latter daycs, from his firft yeere 
 to his fift yeere, there was nothing giuen the King by his {\^h' 
 itds : In the eight yeere at the Parliament at London a tenth 
 and a fifteenth was granted : in fhis tenth yeere hce cetfed 
 vpon the Italians goods here in England to his owne vfc, 
 with all the goods of the tJMonkes Climiack^s and others, of 
 the order oF the Ctfiertians, In the eleuenth yeere, hec had 
 giuen him by Parliament a notable reliefe, the one hailfe of 
 the wooL's throughout England, and ef the Cleargy all their 
 woolls, after which, in the end of the yeere, hee had granted 
 in this Parlian*,entat Weftminfier Jourtic {hillings vpon euery 
 facke of wooll, and for euery thirty wool-fels forty killings, 
 for euery laft of Leatherne, as much, and for all other Mer- 
 chandizes after the fame rate. The King promifing that this 
 yceres gathering ended, he would thence foorth content him- 
 felfc with the old cuftome, hee had ouer and aboue this great 
 aide,thc eight part of all goods of all Citizens and BurgefTeSa 
 and of others as of forrcigne Marchants^and fucb as liued not 
 of the gainc oFbr.eeding of flieepc and cattell the fifteenth of 
 their goods : Na^y Lord, this was not all : though more 
 then cuer was granted to any King, for the fame Parliament 
 bcftowed on the King the ninth (heafe of all the Corne with- 
 in the Land, the ninth Fleece, and the ninth Lambe for two 
 
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yeercs next following : now what thinlccsyour Lorafliipof 
 this Parliament/ 
 
 Cov N s . I fay they were honeft men. 
 
 I V s T . And I fay, the people are as louing to their King 
 now,a8 cuer they wcre,if they bee honeft ly, and wifely dealt 
 withall, and fo his MaieRie hath found them in his laft two 
 Parliaments, if his Maicftic had not bcenc betrayed by thofe 
 whom he moft trufted. 
 
 Cov N s . But I pray you fir, who fhall a King truft, if hec 
 may not truft thofc whom he hath fo greatly aduanced ? 
 
 I VST. I will tell your Lordlhip whom the King may 
 truft. 
 
 CovNs. Who are they? 
 
 I V s T. His owne reafon, and his owne excellent iudge- 
 ment, which hauc not deceiued him in any thing, wherein his 
 Maieftie hath beenc pleafed to exercife them, Take comceU of 
 thine heart (faith the booke of Wifdome)/flr there is mm m$re 
 ftithfult vtito thee then it, 
 
 Cov N s . It is true, but his Maieftie found that thofe wan- 
 ted no iudgement whom he trufted,and how could his Maie- 
 ftie diaine of their honefties ? 
 
 IvsT. Will you pardon mee if I fpeakc freely, for if I 
 fpeake out of louct which (as Solomon (aith) conereth all tref. 
 fftjfes. The trueth is, that his Maieftie would neuer belceuc 
 any man that fpalce againft them, and they knew it well e- 
 nough, which gaue them boldnefte to doc what they did, 
 
 CovNs. What was that? 
 
 I v ST. Euen, my good Lord, to ruine the Kings eftate fo 
 farrc as the State of fo great a King may be ruin*d by men am- 
 bitious and greedy without proportion.lt had beene a braue 
 increafc of rcuenue, my Lord,tohaue raifcd 5C0C0. 1, land of 
 the Kings to 20000. 1, reuenue, and to raife the reucnue of 
 Wards to a 0000. 1. more, 40000 1. added to the reft of his 
 Maiefties eftatc,had (©enabled his Maieftt^as he could neuer 
 haue wanted. And my good Lord, it had beene an honeft fer. 
 uicc to the King, to haue added 7000. 1. lands of the Lord 
 Cthhams, woods,and goods,being worth 30000. 1. more. 
 
 CoVNS. 
 
Cov N s . I know not the reafon why it was not done. 
 
 I V s T. Neither doeth your Lordftiip,pcrchance know the 
 reafon why the loooo. 1, offered by Swinnerton for a fine of 
 the French wines, was by the then Lord Treafurcr conferred 
 on Deuof^Jhire and his MifirM. 
 
 Cov N s . What iTiOoued the Treafurer to reied and cro(& 
 that raifing of the Kings lands ? 
 
 I V s T. The reafon, my good Lord, is manifeft, for had the 
 hnd bcene raifed, then had the King I<nowne when heehad 
 giuen or exchanged land, what be had giuen or exchanged. 
 
 Cov N s . What hurt had that beenc to the Treafurer whofc 
 Office is truely to informc the King of the value of all that he 
 giueth ? 
 
 I V s T* So hce did when it did not conccrne hinofelfe nor 
 his particular, for hee could neuer admit any one peeceof a 
 good Manour to paffe in my Lord Ahbi^nes booke of looo L 
 land, till hee himfelfe had bought, and then all the remaining 
 flowers of the Crowne were culled out. Now had the Trea- 
 furer fuffered the Kings lands to hauebeene raifed,how could 
 his Lordlhip haue made choice of the old rents, as well in that 
 booke of my Lord Aubigne, as in exchange oiThechaldst for 
 which he tooke Hatfield in it, which the great^ft Subicd, or 
 Fauorire Queene SUz,^bethhz6^t\^uti^\xi^ haue named vnto 
 her by way of gift or exchange. Nay my Lord, fo many o- 
 ther goodly Manours haue paScd from his Maieftie.as the ve*. 
 ry heart of the Kingdomc mourneth to remember itj and the 
 eyes of the Kingdome Ihed teares continually at the behol- 
 ding it : yea the foule of the Kingdome is heauy vnto death 
 w ith the confideration therof,that fo Magnanimous a Prince, 
 fliould fufifer himfelfe to be fo abufed. 
 
 Cov N s . But fir, you know that Cobhams lands were en- 
 tailed vpon his Cofens. 
 
 I V s T. Yea, my Lord, but during the lines and races of 
 Gegrge "Brooki his children, it bad becne the Kings, that is to 
 fay, for cuer in eflfefi, but to wreft the King, and to draw the 
 inheritance vpon himfelfe, hee perfwaded his Maicftie to re* 
 
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 linquiflic^his intcrell for a pettie furatBC of money ; and that 
 there nji^it be no counterwprking,he fent Brooke 6000. 1. to 
 make friends, whereof himfelfc had 2000. 1, backe againe, 
 Buckhitrfij and 'Barwicke had the other 4000. 1. and the Trea- 
 furer and his heires the maffe of land for euer. 
 
 Gov N s . What then I pray you, caoie to the King by this 
 great confifcation; 
 
 I V ST. My Lord, the Kings Maicftie by all thote goodly 
 pofrefsions,woods,& goodsjoofcth 500 1. by the yere which 
 he giucthin penfion to Cobham, to maintaine hm m prifon. 
 
 Gov N s . Certainely, euen in confcience they (hould hauc 
 referued fo much of the land in the Crowne, as to haue giuen 
 Cohb^m meaie and apparell.and not made themfelues fo great 
 gainers, and the King 500. 1. (pfr annum) loofcr by the bar- 
 gaine , but it*S paft ; Confilmm non efi eomm ^ «<e ^tri ne- 
 ^liCftnt, 
 
 [VST. Take the reft of the fentence, my Lord : Sed confili. 
 fim verfatitr in ijs qu£ fmt in nofira ptefiate. It is }'et, my 
 good Lord^inpotefiate Re^t^, torlght himfelfe. But this is not 
 all my Lord : And I feare mee, knowing your Lordfliips louc 
 to the King»it would put you into a feauer to heare all : I will 
 therefore goc on with my Parliaments, 
 
 Gov Ns. I pray doe fo, andamongft the reft, I pray you 
 what fay you to the Parliatnent holden at London, in the fif- 
 teenth ycere of King Sdward the third ? 
 
 I VST. I fay there was nothing concluded therein to the 
 preiudice of the King. It is true, that a little before the fit- 
 ting of the houfe, the King difplaced his Chancellour, and his 
 Treafurers, and moft of all his 1 udges,and Officers of the Ex- 
 chequer, and committed many of them to prifon, becaufe 
 they did notfupply him with Money, being beyond the Teas, 
 for the reft, the States aflerubled, befought the Kvig that the 
 Lawes of the two Charters might bee obferued, and thit 
 the great Officers of the Crowne might bee chofcn by Par- 
 liament. 
 
 Gov N s . But what fucccflfe had thcfe Petitions. 
 I V s T. The Charters were obferued,as befor?,and fo they 
 
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v;ilbceuer,& the other petition was reie5ied, thcKingbe- 
 ingpIeaCd notwithftanding, that the great Officers (hoiild 
 take an oath in Parliament to doe luftice. Now tor the Par- 
 liicnintoiff'cjfmihjlerj in the i 7'^. yeare of the King,thc 
 King had three niarkes and ahalfe for euery facke of wooll 
 tranfported; and in his i S.he had a i o'^ of the Clergy, and 
 a 1 5'*».ofthe Laity for one yeare. His Maiefty torbare after 
 this to charge his fubie^^s with any more payments, vntill 
 the 2?. ofhisreigne, when there was giuen the King by 
 Parliament 5 o. for euery lacke of wooll tranfportedibr fixe 
 yeares, by which grant, the King recciued a thousand marks 
 a day , a greater matter then a thoufand pounds in thele 
 dayes,6:a iroo^.a day amounts to 3 65 oco^.a yeare. which 
 was one of the greatefl prefents that eucr was giuen to a 
 Xingotthis land. For beftdes the cheapncs of all things in 
 that age, the Kings foulditrs had but 3 ^. a day wages,a man 
 atarmes6d.aKnightbut 2^ Inthe Parliament at Wefimm^ 
 fiery in the 3 3. yeare he had 26^" 8'^tor euery facke of wool] 
 tranfportt^,&inthc 42.}eare3 dirmes-& 3. fifteens. In his 
 ^5.yeare he had soooo^of thtLaity,andbecaufetheSpiri. 
 tualcy difputed it, and did not pay io much,the Kingchang'd 
 his ChancellourjTreafurer, andPriuy Scale, being Bifhcps, 
 and pkced Lay men in their rofemc. 
 
 CovKs. It fecmesthatintlioledayes the Kings were no 
 longer in loue with their great Chancellors, then when they 
 deferucd well ofthem. 
 
 I V ST .No my Lord, they were not, snd that was the reafon 
 
 ■they 'vere welUerued,& it was the cuftome then>& in many 
 
 ages a;ter,to change the Treafurer and the Chancellor euery 
 
 j.yeares.fic withalltoheareallmcnscomplainrsagainfttl;<^o 
 
 CovNS. But by this often change, the faying is verifi- 
 ed, that there is no inheritance in the friuour of Kings. Hee 
 that keepeth th^ (i^ge tree (iaiixh Salomof^fuall cate the frmte 
 thereof liov reafon it is thatthe kruant liue by the Mafter. 
 ' IvsT , My Lord, you fay well m both,but had the iubie6V 
 •an inheritance inthe Princes favor, where the Prince hatn no 
 inheritance iftthe^ie^s fidelicy,th€n were kings in more 
 
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 vnhappy eftate then common perlbinsr For the re([iSaUmon 
 mcaneth not, that liethat ke^pctlo the ji^g^ tree fliould fuifer, 
 though he meant he ftiouldeatc, hee meant not he fhould 
 breake the branches in gathering the figs, or eace the ripej& 
 leaue the rotten for the owner of the tree j for what faith hec 
 in the following chapt€r,he faith that he that mah^eth hafie to 
 he richt cannot he innocent . And before that, he faith, that the 
 end of an tnheritunce hxflily gotten, cannot be yiejjed. Your 
 Lordfhip hath heard of few or none great with'Kings, that 
 haue Gifit vfed their power to opprelTe, that haue not grown 
 infolent & hatefull to the people jyca^infolent towards thofe 
 Princes that advanced them. 
 
 CovNs, Yet )oii fee that Princes can change their 
 fancies. 
 
 IvsT. Yea my Lord^when favorites change their faith, 
 when they forget that how familiar focuer Kings make the- 
 felues with their Vailalsj yet they are kings : He that provo- 
 ke th A King to anger {(zxxh Salomon) fnneth itgainfi his owne 
 foHle, And he further faith, that pride goeth before dejlru&ioti, 
 4nd a high mtnde before a faX, I fay i:herefore,that in difchar- 
 ging thofe Lucifers , how deare foeuer they haue beene, 
 l<ings make the world know that they haue moreof ludge- 
 mentthenof paffion, yea they thereby offer a fatisfa6lory 
 iacrifice to all their people/Joo great benefits of fubjeds to 
 their King, where the mindc is blowne vp with their owne 
 deferuings , and too great benefits of Kings confer'd vpon 
 their fubiefts, where the mmdeis not qualified with a great 
 dealeofmodefty, are equally dangerous. Of this laterand 
 infolenrer, had King Richard the fecond deliuered vp to lu^ 
 Mce but three or foure. he had flill held the loue of the peo- 
 ple, and thereby his life and eflate. 
 
 C ov N s. Well, I pray you goc on with your Parlia- 
 ments. 
 
 ivsT. The life of this great -Kifig Bdward disiwts to 
 an end, fb doe the Parliaments of this time, where in 50 
 yearesraigne,h€ncuerreceiuedany affront, for in his 49^^; 
 years he ha,d a difme and a fifceene granted hira freely . 
 
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 C o V N s , But Sifc it is an old faying, that all is well thac 
 ends well , Judge you whether that m his 50'^ yeare in Par- 
 l-iamenc atlVefimi^ifierherecniut^H not an affront, when the 
 houfe vrged the King to rcmoue & dvfcharge tVo his prefence 
 the Dake oiL-an€afti;r,ihc Lord Latimer his Chamberiaine, 
 Sir Richdrd St mry, and 0th trs whom the King fauoured and 
 ttufted. Nay, they preHed the King to thrud a certaine 
 Lady out of the Court, which at that time bare thegreateft 
 fivay therein. 
 
 IvsT. I will with patience anfwere your Lordfhip to 
 the full , and firft your Lordfhip may remember by that 
 which leuen now faid.thaEneucr King had fo many gifts as 
 this King had from his fubiefis J and it hath neuer grieued 
 thefubiefts of England to giuc to their King , but when 
 they knew there was adevouring Lady, that had her (hare in. 
 ail things that pafled, and the Duke okLancafier was as fcra- 
 pmgas (bee, that the Chancellour did eat vp the people as 
 tart as either of them both, it grieued the fubje6ls to teede 
 thefe Cormorants. But my Lord there are two things by 
 which the Kings of f'T^AiH^haue been preft, ( to wit] by 
 their fubie6ts, and by their owne nece(Iities, The Lords in 
 former timeswerefarre Wronger, more warlike, better fol- 
 lowed, liuing in their countries, then now they are. Your 
 Lordfhipmay remember in your reading, that there were 
 many Earles could bring in^o the field a thoufind Barbed 
 horfes.many aBaron 5 or doo Barbed horfeS) whereas now 
 very few of them can furnifh twenty fir to ferue the King, 
 Bnttofay the truth my Lord, the lufticesof peacein Eur. 
 /.-t«<^,haueoppord the iniufticers orwarre in EngUnd, the 
 kings writ runs ouer all,and the great Scale of E,ngUnd^v>}\t\\ 
 that of the next Conftables willferuethe turneto afiront.he 
 greatell Lords in £«^/<2W that fhallmoue againQ the Kins, 
 The force therefore by wh.ich our Kings in former times 
 were troubled is vaniilit away. But the nece(hties rernaine. 
 The people therefore in thele later ages, are no ielle to bee 
 pleafed then the Peeres ; for as the later are become leire,fo 
 iy reafonofthetrayning through EngUnd^ tlv; Commons 
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 haaeallthc weapons in their hands. ^ 
 
 CovNS^ Andwasitnotfbeuer ? 
 
 I VST. No my good Lord, for the Noblemen had in 
 their Armories to ftirnifhlbme of them a thoufandjfome two 
 thoufand, fome three thoufand men, whereas now there are 
 not many that can armc fifty. 
 
 C o V N 5 . Can you blame them ? But I wifl only anfwer 
 for my felfe,bet weene you and me be it fpoken, I Kold it not 
 fafe to maintained great an Armorie or Stable, it might 
 caufe me or any other Noble man to be fufpeded.as the pre- 
 paringof fome Innouation. 
 Xnijti^BSimmm, Why fomy Lord, rather to bee commended as 
 preparing againft alldanger of Innouation. 
 
 G o V N s . It (hould be fo, but call your obfcruationto ac- 
 compt,ard you (hall find it asl fay, for (indced)fuch a jealou- 
 fie hath been held euer fince the time of the Ciuill wars, ouer 
 the Military greatncsofourNobles,asmadethemhauc litis 
 will to bend their ftudiesthat waies : wherefore let euery 
 man prouidc according as hee is rated in the Mufter booke, 
 you vnderftand me. 
 
 I V- s T. Very well my Lord, as what might be replied in 
 the perceiuingfomuch ; I haueeuer ( todeale plainely and 
 freely with your Lordlhip ) more feard at home popular 
 violence,then ail the forreinc that can be made,for it can ne- 
 uer bee in the power of any forreinc Prince, without a Pa- 
 pifticall party, cither to dilbrder or endanger his Majefties 
 E(?ate. 
 
 CovNS. By this it feemes , itisno leffc dangerous for 
 a.king to leaue the power in the psople.then in the Ncbility. 
 
 I vs T. My good Lord, the wifedome of our owns age, is 
 the foolifhnes of another, the time prcfent ought not to bee 
 prefer'd to the Policy that was, but the Policy that u^as, to 
 the time p.efent. So that the power of the Nobility being 
 now withered, and the power of the people inthefiowrcj 
 the care to content them would not be neglefted, the way 
 to win them often pradiicd, or atlcan; to defend them from 
 opprefijon. The motiuc of all dangers thai euer this Manar- 
 
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 chy hath vndergone, fhould bee carefully heeded, for this 
 Maxime hath no porterne , Poteftas humanci ramcatur in 
 volnntatibus hominHin, And now my Lord, for King Ed^uird 
 it is true, thoi>gh he were not rubje6l to force, yet was hee 
 fubic6lton?ce3icy,whichbccaufeitwas violent, hee gauc 
 way vntoit, Potsfias (^diixh Pitkagoras ) jitxtanecejfitatCTru 
 habitat. And it is truc,thatat the requeftof thehoule he dis- 
 charged and put from him thole before named, which done, 
 he had the greatcfl: gift ( but one J that euer he receiued in all 
 his daiesfto wir)fromeuery pcrlbn^man and woman, aboue 
 the ageotfourteene yeares 4^^ ofold mony,which made ma- 
 ny Millions of Groats,worth 6^ of our mony.This he had in 
 generalhbcfideshchadofeuery benificedPrieft,! 1^, Andof 
 the Nobility and Gentry,! know not ho*v much/or it is not 
 fet downe.Now my good Lord, what loft the King by fatif- 
 fy ing the dcfires of the Parliament houfe ; for atfoone as hee 
 had the money in purfe, hee recalled the Lordsj and reftored 
 them,and who durft call the King to accompt.when the Af- 
 fembly were dilfolued. Where the word of a Kinj is, there is 
 foVcer (fjith Sccleji^fticus ) ^hojhallfay vnto him, V^hat doefi 
 thoai'Cs.khthe fame Author, for euery purpofe there is a time 
 & judgcment.the King gaue way to the time,& his judgmec 
 perfwaded him to yceld to neceflity, ^Qfjfularim nemo mehor 
 ejf (jjff aft temp uu 
 
 CovN s . But yet you fee the King was forc'd to yeeld to 
 their deraaunds, 
 
 IvsT. Doth yourLordOiip remember the fay ing of /!/(?«<- 
 fienr de Lavge, that he that hath the profit of the warrc, hath 
 alio the honour of the vvarre, whether it be by battaile or re- 
 treate. the King you fee had the pi-ofit of the Parliarnent.and 
 therefore the honour alfo, what other end had the king then 
 to fupply his wants* A wife man hath es^ermore rcrpe6l vn- 
 to his ends : and the king alfo knew that it was the loue that 
 the people bare him, that they vrged the remouingof thofe 
 Lords, there was no man among them that fought Ismfelfe 
 in that defire, but they all fought \X\z King, as by the fuc- 
 cellc it appeared. My good Loi d, hath it not been ordinary 
 
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 in England and in France to yeeld to the demaunds of rebels, 
 did not Ming Ruhard the fecond graunt pardon to the out- 
 raijious rogues and murtbercrs that tollowed latk^Straw, & 
 IVat Ttler,3Stct they had n^urthered his Charcellor^his Trea- 
 {iner^Chiefe luftice, and others^ brake open his Exchtquer, 
 and committed all manner of outrages and vi]]anies,and why 
 did he doe it, but to avoid a greater danger : I fay the Kings 
 haue then yeeidcd to thofe that hated them and their cftates, 
 (to wir) to pernicious rebels. And yet without difhonour 
 ihaliit be called difhonour for the King to yeeld to honeft 
 defirw ofhis fubje6}s. No my Lord, tho(e that tell the King 
 thofetaleSjfeare their ownediflionourjand not the Kings/or 
 the liououtof the King is fupreame, and being guarded by 
 iijftice and piety, it cannot receiue neither wound nor 
 fhyne. 
 
 CovNs. ButSir, whatcaufe haue any vnder our King 
 to fearea Parliament.^ 
 
 Iv s T, -The fame caufe that the Earle of Sti^olke had in 
 Richard the feconds time, and the Treafurer Fartham^ with 
 others ; for thcfe great officers being generally hated for ab- 
 ufing both the Kin^ and the fubie^l, at the rcqueft of the 
 States vveredifcharged, and others put in their roomc«. 
 
 CovNS. And was not this a<lifhonour to the King? 
 
 IvsT. Certainly no, for King Richard knew that his 
 Gra.^dfacher had done the like, and though the king was in 
 his heart vtcerly againft it, yet had hee theprofite of his 
 exchange;for Si^;foikjw&s fined at aoooo markesjand i ooo', 
 lands. 
 
 CovN5 . Well Sir, we will fpeakc of ihofe thatfearc 
 the Parliament fome other time, but I pray yoa goe on with 
 that, that happened in the troubiefome raigne oi Rtckard 
 the fecond who fuccecded , the Grandfather beeing 
 dead. 
 
 IvsT. That king, my good Lord, wasoneofthe raoft 
 vnfortunate Princes that euer £»^/^!^<i had, hee wascruell, 
 cxtreameprodigalI,and wholly carried away with his two 
 MinioriSj5«/'<?//^j& the duKe of Ir floridly vyhofe ill aduice & 
 
 others. 
 
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 others,he was in danger to haue loft his eftate ; which in tlie 
 end r being led by msn of the like temper; he miferably loft, 
 But for his fubfedieshee hadgiuen bim in his firft yeare be- 
 ing vnder age two ttnths, and tivofifteenes: In which Par- 
 liament, e^^/'c^ Pcirce, who was remoued in king Edwards 
 time,u'ith Lancajl er , Latimer ,znd. Sturry, were confifcate & 
 banifhed. In his feeond yearc at the Parliament at Glocefrcr» 
 the King had a markc upon euery fackeof vvooll,and 6'^ the 
 pound vpon wards. In his third yeare at the Parliament ac 
 WiKchcfier, the Commons were (pared, and a fubfedy giuen 
 by the better fort, the Dukes gaue 20 markes, and Earles 6 
 markes, Bilhoppes and Abbots with mycersfixemarkes, e- 
 uery marke 3 ^ 4^, & euery Knight, Iuftice,Efquire,Shrieue^ 
 Parfon, Vicar, & Chaplainc, paid proportionably according 
 to their eftates. 
 
 CovNs, This raethinkeswas no great matter. 
 
 IVAT. his true my Lord, but a little mony wentfar in^ 
 thofedayes : 1 my {elfeonce moued it in Parliament in the 
 time of Queene Eltz.aheth, whodefired much -to fpare the 
 Common people, and I did it by her Commaundemenr ; but 
 when we caft vp the fubfedy Bookes, wee found the Tumme 
 but rraal,whe the 3 o^ men were left out.In the beginning of 
 his fourth yeare, a tenth with a fiftcene were granted vpon 
 condition^ that for one whole yeare no fubfe^ies fhould bee 
 demanded; but this promife was as (uddenly forgotten as 
 made, for in<he end of that yeare, the great fubfedy of Pol! 
 mony was granted in the Parliament at A^orr^^»?pf<?». 
 . CovNs. Yea but there followed the terrible Rebellion 
 otB^ker, Straw, and Others, LeifierJVrais ,^ni\others, 
 
 Ivs T. That was not the faultofihe Parliament my Lord^ 
 it is manifeft that the fubfedy giuen was noi: the caufe ; for 
 it is plaine that the bondmen of £«^//j^<:^ began it , becaufe 
 they were grieuoufly preft by their Lords in their tenure 
 of Villenage, as alfb tor the hatred they bare to the Law- 
 yers & Atcurneyes: for the ftory of chofe times fay, that they- 
 deftroyed the houfes and Mannors of men of law , and fuch 
 Lawyers as-they caught, flew tbsm; and beheaded the Lord 
 
 chief 
 
.ohicfe Tuftice, which commotion being once begun,the head 
 mony was by oiher Rebels pretended : A fire is often kird- 
 kd with a little ftraw, which oftentimes takes hold of grea- 
 trrtimber, & confumes the whole building : Andthatthis 
 lltbelHon was begun by the difcomented flaucs (whereof 
 there hauebeene many in Eldet times the Iike)is manifcd by 
 xhc Charter oi Aianunnjfion, whichtheKing granted /'« /;<cf 
 verba, Rich/Deigratta^c, Scistu quod de gratia noJ}r a Jpi" 
 ritHA 'i mmnmiff\mHs &<:. to which feeing the King wascon- 
 Orained by force of armes, hee revoked the letters Patt^nts^ 
 and made them voide, the fame revocation being ft rengthe- 
 nedbythe Parliament enfuing. In which the King had giuen 
 him afubfedy vpon wools, called a fJMnUto't, In the fame 
 fourth yeare was the Lord Treafurer difchargcdof hisOf- 
 fice,and Bales Lord of Slohvs chofen in his place. In hisfihh 
 yearc wastheTreafureragaine changed,and the StafFe giuen 
 to Segraiiey and the Lord Chancellour wasalfochanged,and 
 the ftalfe giuen to the Lord Scroope .-"S^hidCLoi^ Scrocpe was 
 againe in the beginning of his fi«t yeare turned out, and the 
 King after that he had for a while kept tfie Stale in his own 
 hand, gaueitto the Bifhop o{ London^ from whom it was 
 foone after taken & bcftowedon the Earle of 5«^o%, who 
 they fay, had abufed the King,and converted the Kings Trea- 
 fureto hisowne vie. To this the King condifcended, and 
 though (faith W zlftnghfim) he deferued to loofe his life and 
 goods, yet he had the fauor to goe at liberty vpogood fure- 
 tics: & becaul'e the K. was but yong,& that the reliefc gran- 
 ted was commited ro the truft of the Earleof ArundtU for 
 the fnrnifhingof the Kings Navy againil the French. 
 
 CovHs. Yet you fee It was a diflionortotheK.tohauc 
 his beioued Chancellour remoued. 
 
 I V s .Truly nOjfor theK.had both his fine i o oo^ ladsj&f a lub- 
 ildy to boot. And chough ior the prcfcnt it pleafed the K. to 
 fancy a rnanall the world hated(the Ks. paflio ouercoming 
 his ludgmer^yet iccanotbecardadiihonorjfor the K. is to 
 belieue the general cou'el of thekingdom, & topreferit be- 
 forehis afi'idion, cfpecially when Sft/i?/^wasproued to be 
 iiiiie euen to the K.for w sic it other wile loue and afFt6tion 
 
 might 
 
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 might bee called a frenxisand a madncflc, for it i$ the natorc 
 ofnumancpallions. that thcloucbredde by fidelity, doth 
 change it feifeinto hatred, when the fidelity is firft changed 
 into t'al (hood. 
 
 CovNS. But you fee there were thirteene Lords chofen 
 in the Parliament, to haue thcoverfight of the government 
 vnder the King. 
 
 I VST : No my Lord, it was to haue the overfight ofthofe 
 Officers, which (faith the ftoryj had imbe2cled,lewdly wa- 
 fted, and prodigally fpentthe Kings treafure, for to the C6- 
 miffion to thofe Lords,or to any fix of them, joy n'd with the 
 Kings Counfcll, wasoneofthcmoftroyall andmoft profi-i 
 table that euerhedid, if hee hadbinconftanttohimfelf. Biic 
 ray good Lord,man is thecaufeoHiis ownmifery, for I will 
 repeatethe fubftanceof the commiffion granted by the K. ,* 
 & confirmed by Parliament, which,whether it had bin pro- 
 fitable for the K. to haue profecuted, your Lordfhip may 
 judge. The preamble hath the fe words: Whereat our Seve. 
 rei^ne Lord the Kiȣperceiveth by the grievom complaints of 
 the Lords & (^ommons of this Realmejhat the rents jpro(its,S" 
 revenues of this Realme^by the fingHlar and infuffctent Conn^ 
 tell and eviU government .a f^ ell oj forne his late great Officer si 
 and others y&care fo much ^ithdrawen^ vpafied,eloyHed,gtHen, 
 granted, Alienated, defiroyed^ andeviti di^ended, that he is Co 
 mttchinJpoveriJIjed and void oftreafnre andgocds, andthefub. 
 fiance of the Crown fo mnch dimimped and deflroyed, that his 
 efiAte may not honorably befujiatned a* appertaineth. The K. of 
 ■ hiifre'e VQtiat the te^uefi of the Lords And (Commons, hath or. 
 dayned Wiiiia Archbipiop «?/ Canterbury *j«e/ ethers Vcith hi.< 
 Chanfeliour^Treafurer, keeper of his privy feale, tofurvey and 
 examine as ^JPelltheefiate and governance of his hot^e\ cj-c. <i: 
 of tilt the rents, and profits, and revenues thAt to httyA-appertay.- 
 fieth, and to be due. Or ou^ht to appertaine ^i;:dbe dne,(^cfAnd 
 aii nianner of gifts, gr aunt Si alienations and confirmat ions mdie 
 bjhtm of lands,tenewsfitSyref7ts,dr(„ (bargained r.nd fold tic the 
 preiudice of him and his (^rovfnc&c. Andofhisjerfels dr goods 
 '»>hfchw£re hk Grandfathers at th'i'timeofhis-death^^.hn'U 
 ^erethej-be become^ $^ This 
 
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 This isinefFe6V the fubftancc ofthecotnmifnon, which 
 your Lordfhip may r cade at large in the bookc af Statutes, 
 this commiffion being enabled in the tenth yere of the Kingf 
 reigne. Now if fudi a comFnifiion were in thtffedaJes gran- 
 ted to the faithfall men that hauenointercft in the fales,gift$ 
 nor purchafts , nor in the keeping of the Jewells at the 
 Queencs death, nor in the obtaining,grauntsof the Kings 
 beiHands, I cannot fay what may be recoucred, & jufily re. 
 covered} and what fay your Lordfliip, was netthis anobitt 
 a(fte for the King, if it had becne followed toeffe6l ? 
 
 CoVNS, I cannot tell vvheiher itwere or no, for it gaue 
 power to the Commiflioners to examine all the graunts, 
 
 IvsT. Why my Lord, doth the King graunt any thing, 
 that fhames at the examination ? are not the Kings grams on 
 record ? 
 
 CovNS. But by your Icaiie, it is Tome dishonour to a 
 King, tohauehi» judgement c?l!fdinqucflion. 
 
 IviT. That i< true my Lord, but m thisj or wHenfoc* 
 Ver the like (hall be g-^aanred in the future, the Kuigs judge- 
 ment is not < xamincd, Dut their knavery that abu-td tiie K, 
 Nay by your favour, the contrary is true, that whena King 
 will iijffer himfcUe to bee eaten vp by a company of petty 
 fello ACS, by himfelfc railed, therein both the judgement and 
 courage is difputed. And if your Lordfhip will difdaifle it at 
 your own fervants hands, much more ought the great heart 
 of a King,to difdaine it. And iurely ray Lord,it is a greater 
 ireafon (though it vndercrecpe the law ) to tcare from the 
 Growne the ornaments thereof : And it is an infallible ma.- 
 xime, that hee that loues not his Maiefties eftatej loues not 
 hisperfon. 
 
 CovNs. How came it then, that thca61:e was not esc" 
 cuted ? 
 
 IvsT. Bccaufcthefejagainft whom irwas graijnted,per- 
 fwaded the King to the contrary : As the Duke oUreland^ 
 5«^/%,the chief luSkiccTreftltan, & others,yea,that which 
 W4S lawfully done by the King, and the great Councellof 
 the kingdom?, was,(by the maftsyy y^hichfrelmd, SnfoJh^ 
 ■" And- 
 
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 and Trsfilia*i had oucr the Kings afFe£liors)brokcn and ^[t- 
 avowed. Thofcthatdeuifed torelieue the King, not by any 
 private invention, but by generallCourcelL were byapri- 
 vateandpactiaUaircmblicadjudgedcraitors, and the moft 
 honcft ladgcsof theland, entorccdtofiiblcribetothat judg. 
 mcnt. I n fo much that Judge Belki^ap plainely told the Duke 
 oflrelaffd ^9,nd the Earle ot'SuffoIke, when hce was confirai- 
 ned to fee to his hand, plainely told thcfe Lords,that he wan= 
 ted but a rope, that he might therewith receiue a reward for 
 hisfubfcription. And in this Councell of Nottmgbam was 
 liatchcd the ruine of th»fe which governed the King, of the 
 lodges by them conftrained, of the Lords that loued the 
 King,and fought a reiorination,and of the King himfelfe; for 
 though the King found by all the Shrceues of thcfhires, that 
 tjic people would not fight againCl the Lordes, whom they 
 thought to bee moftfaithtullvnto the King, when the Citi- 
 zens ot Lc^dftw made the fame anfwere, being at that time 
 able to arme 50000 men,(& told the Major that they would 
 ni ver fight againtt the Kmgs frien'^s, and defenders of the 
 Re.1l me, when the Lord Ralph B^f»t, who was neere the K» 
 toldthe-King boldly that he would not adventure to haue 
 his head broken for the Duke of IreUnds pleafore, when 
 the Lord of London told theEaric oiSujfelki in the Kings 
 prcfcnce, that he was not worthy to liuej&c.yet would the 
 King in the defence of the deftroyers of his eftate, lay am- 
 bulhes to intrap the Lords, when they came vpon his faith^ 
 yea when all was pacified, and that the King by his Procla- 
 Biation had cleer'd the Lords, and promifed to produce Ire. 
 Und^Suffolkipc the Archbifliop of Tsrke^TrefiUan & 'Bram. 
 hereto anfwer at the next Parliamentjthefe men confeft, that 
 they durft not appeare^and when Snfoike fled to C^liice, znd 
 rficDukeof /r<r/<««flfto C^efier^ the King caufed an army to 
 be leaviedjnX4W4/fc*Vtf, for the iafecondu£l: of the Duke of 
 irfhnd to his^refencej when as the Duke being encounte- , 
 
 red by the Lordsjrannelike a coward from his con3pany,and (^^ S*^"^^*? 
 fled into /y<»^4%i. After this was hcldcn a Parliamentjwhieh f^ vrmr^ % 
 was called that wrboght wonders. loj the Ekuenih yeare ^^^ ^jt^^l 
 
 F 2 ot 
 
-of this KingjWherein the forenamcd Lords,the Duke of /r^- 
 lund and the reft, were condemned and confifcatcj the Chicfc 
 luftice hang'd with many others, the reft of the ludges con- 
 demned,andbanilht,anda lo'^anda 1 5'^giventotheKing. 
 
 Cov Ns : But good Sir : the King was firft befieged in the 
 Tower of Xowis^<y«,and the Lords same to the Parliament,and 
 no nian durft contradi6l them. 
 
 Iv s T : Certainly in raifing an army^thcy committed trea- 
 fon, and though! it did appeare, that they all loacd the King, 
 (for they did him no harme,hauing him in their power) yet 
 our law dochconftrue all leavying of war without the kings 
 commiflion, and all force raited to be intended for the death 
 &deftruftionof the K.not attending the fcquell.Andit isfb 
 judged vpon good reafon, for eucry vnlawfulland ill action 
 is fuppos'd to be accompanied with an ill intent. And befides, 
 thofe Lords vfed too great crueltie, in procuring the fen* 
 tence of death againft diuers of the Kings fervants, who 
 were bound to follow and obey their Matter andSoueraigac 
 Lord,in tharhe commanded. 
 
 Cov N s , It is true, and they were alfo greatly to blame 
 tocaufethcnfomanyfecondstobeputto death, feeing the 
 principalis, -Ireland, Suffolke^ and Torke had efcapcd them. 
 And what reafon had they to fecke to enforrae the State by 
 ftrong hand .Vas not the Kings eftate asdeere tohimfclfe, 
 as to them ? He that maketh a King know his errour maner* 
 ly and priuate^and giues him the beft aduice, hee isdifchar- 
 ged before Godandhis owneoonfcience. The Lords might 
 haue retired chemfclues, when they law they could not pre- 
 vails and haue left the King to his owne. waycs, who had 
 mote to lofe then they had. 
 
 Iv s T. My Lord, thf taking of Armes cannot be e^cufcd 
 m refpeft of the law>butthis might be faid for the Lords that 
 the K.beingvndery€rc$,and being wholly goucrned by their 
 enimies.Sc theenimiesof the Jcingdome,andbecaufcby thofe 
 evill mens perfwafions.ie was adui(ed,howthe Lords iboukl 
 haue bin raurthcrcd at a fcaft in London ^ they were exoulable 
 |4«ringthe kings minority to ftaad rgo tlicir guards againft 
 
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 their particular enemies. But we will paffc it ouer and go on 
 with our parliaments that followed, whereof that of Cam- 
 bridge in the Ks. 1 1^^ yeare was the next, therein the K.had 
 giuen him a i c'' & a 1 5"^^,aftcr which being 2 o.yeres of age 
 rechaged(raith//.i^<»^fo/«»)h is Treafurerjhis Chanccllor,thc 
 lufticcsofcither bench,thc Clerk of the priuy feale &: others, 
 & tookc the gouernment into his owne hands. Heaifo tookc 
 the Admirals place fro theEarle of Arundelhand in his roomc 
 hec placed the Earle of Huntingdon in the yeare followingi 
 which was the i j'^^yearofthe K.in the Parliament at Weftw 
 minfler there was giuen t© the King vpon every lackc of 
 wooll 1 4^and 6^ in the pound vpon other Merchandife, 
 
 CoVN $, But by your ieaue, the King was reftrained this 
 parliament, that he might notdifpofe of, but a third part of 
 the money gathered. 
 
 Iv s T :No my Lord,by yourfauour. But true it is that part 
 of this mony was by the Kings eonfent affigncd towards the 
 wars,but yet left in the Lord Trcafiirers hands, And my Lo; 
 itwouldbeagreateafejandagreatfauingtohisMaiefiicour 
 Lord and Mafferjifitpleafed him to make his affignations 
 vpon fome part of his rcuonewes,by which he might haue 
 1000* vpon every looooij&faue hirafclfca great dealcof 
 clamour. For feeing of neccffity the Nauy mull be maintai- 
 ned,and that thofe poore men afvvcU Carpentersas fliip-kee* 
 pers muft be paid, it were better for bis Maiefty to giue an 
 afsignationtothetreafurer ofhis nauy for the rcceiuingot 
 fo much as is called ordinary, then to difcontent thofc poore 
 men, who being made defpcrate beggars, raay perchance be 
 corrupted by them that lyein waiteto deftroy the Ks.eftate* 
 And if his Maiefty did tlte like in all other payments, efpeci- 
 ally where the neceffity offuch a? arc to rtceiu-e, cannot pof^ 
 fiblegiacdaies, his Maiefty might then in a litlerowle be- 
 hold his receipts and expences, hec might quiet his heart 
 when all neceflaries were provided for, and then difpofe the 
 reft at his pleafure. And my good Lord, how excellently 
 and eafily might this haue bin done, if the 400 goo* had been 
 railed as aforc(ai(fi vpon the Kings lands, and wards, 1 fay 
 that his Maiefties houle,his navy, his guards^ his penfioners, 
 
 F.2 hi« 
 
his ttiunidon, bis Ambailkdors and all elfe ofordinary charge 
 might haue beene defrayed , and a great fumme left for his 
 Maiefties cafuall expences and rewardes, 1 will not fay they 
 were not in loue with the Kings cfiate, but I fay they were 
 vfifortunately borne for the King that croll it. 
 
 C ov N s . Well Sir,I would it had been otherwife^ But for 
 thea/fignments, there are among vs that will not willingly 
 indure it. Charity begins with it relfe,-fhall wee hinder our 
 felues of 50000^ per anritim to fauc the King 2 o/No Sir, what 
 will become of our Ncw-ycares gifts, our presents and gra- 
 tuities/ We can now f^y to tho(e that haue warrants for mo- 
 ney:, that there is not a penny in the Exchcqucnbut the king- 
 giues it away vnto the Scottes fader then it comes in. 
 
 i V s T. My Lord you fay well, at leaft you fay the trueth, 
 that fuch arc feme of our anlweres, and hence comes that 
 generall murmure to all men that haue money to receiue, I 
 Sy that there is not a penny giuen to that nation,be it for fcr- 
 uice or otherwife but it is ipread ouer all the kingdome; yea 
 they gather notes, and take copies of all the priuy (eales 
 and warrants that his Maiefty nath giuen for the money for 
 the Scots, that they may (hew thtiA in Parliament. But of 
 his Maiefties gif3« to the Engl rfn. thercis nobiuitc though 
 they may be tcnne times as much ai. the Scots. And yet my 
 good Lord, howfoeuer they be thus aniwered that to them 
 (uc for money out of the Exchequer, it is due to them for i p 
 or 1 2. or 20 in thehundred,abated according to their quali- 
 ties that fheWjthey areiilwaies turnifbcd.For concJufion^fit 
 would pleafe Gcd to put into the Kings heart to make their 
 afl:gnations,it would iaue him many a pound, and gaine him 
 many a praycr,and a grtatdeale of louc, for it grieucth every 
 honed mans heart to Se the abundance which euenthe petty 
 officers in the Exchequer, and others gather both from th« 
 king and fubieft, and to fee a world ofpoore mentunnca^ 
 ter the king for their ordinary wages. 
 
 GovNS. Wdl, well, [did you neuer heare this old tale* 
 that when there was a great contenetion aboutthc weather 
 the/S^amencoropIairiing of contrary wiitd€5> whcnthofe of 
 
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 the high Countreyes defired raine, and thofeof the vailcyes 
 funlhining dayes, Inftterkni them word by Mercnry, theoj 
 when they had all done, the weather fliould be as it had bin. 
 And it (hall cucr fail out ib with them that complainc, the 
 courfe of pay ments (hall be as they haue beene,whac care we 
 what petty fellowes lay ? or what care wee for your papers ? 
 haue not we the Kings eares, who dares eontcft with vs ^ 
 though wc cannot be revenged on fuch as you are for telling 
 the trueth, yet vpon fomc other pretence, wec'ie clap you 
 vp>and you Ihall fucto vs ere you get out. Nay wee'le make 
 you confdle that you were deceiued in yourproie^is, and 
 eatc your ownc words: learnethisofmeSir, that as a little 
 good fortune v^ better then a great dealc of vcrtuc : io the 
 le«ft authority hath advantage ouer the greateft wit, was he 
 notthe wifeft man that faidjffc^'i^rffr*!//? vtat nottothcfirwm 
 g^fiyfJor Jet bread for the Tfeije^ tier riches to men of vnderjiafi- 
 dutg^nor fmmr to met of knowledge : buc^at time & chance 
 came to them alL 
 
 IvsT. It is well for your Lordfhip that it is fo. Bat Qu : 
 £Uz.<iheth would fee the reafon of a meane manji before the 
 authority of the greatcft Couneeilor (he had, and by her pa- 
 tience therein (he raifed vpon the vfuall and ordinary cu- 
 ftomes of London without any new irapofi jio aboue 50 ooo' 
 a yeare, for though the Treafurer Murletgh, and the Earle of 
 Leieeflefjand Secretary Walpwgham^zW three penfioners to 
 CuftoHier Smith, did fet theinleJusB againft a poorc waites 
 oftheCuftomcboufc cailkd'Carwarden, and commaunded 
 the groomes of the privy Chamber not to giue him acceflfe, 
 yet the CJueene fenc for him, and gauehim.councenance a* 
 gainft them all. It would not fcrue the turnc,my Lord, with 
 her ; when your Lordlhips would tell her , that the dit- 
 graeingk^r^rcat olBeers by he.^riRg the complaints of bufie 
 heads, was a diOionour ro hcrfelff , but i5ie had alwaies this 
 anfwere, That if any f»m comfUine '^ninfiij againfi a M'agi. 
 firete^tt vee/e reajan hejhouUbefcverely fhm^ied;ifiH^ly,Jl)ec 
 "^04 Q^ene ofthefmall, ajwitloi oftbegreat> and vpculd hears 
 ihetrxQmpl4ims, For my good Lord, aPrincetbatfuflFercth 
 
 iiimlclfe 
 
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 himCeifetobebefiegedjforfaketh one of the greateftfcga- 
 lilies belonging tea Monarchic, towit, the laft appcale,or 
 &$ the French call it, ie dernier re fort, 
 
 CovN s •• Well Sir, this from the matter, I prayyougo 
 on. 
 
 I VST . Then ny Lorcl,in the kings 1 5 '^ ycarc he hid a tcntb 
 and a fiftecnc graunted in Parliament of London. And that 
 fame ycare there was a great Councell called at Stamford to 
 which diuerfc men were fcnt for, of diucrf* counties bciides 
 the Nobility jof whom the K.tooke advice whether he ihould 
 continae the war,or make a finall end with the Frcncb. 
 
 CovNS. What needed the king to take the ad¥icc of any 
 but of his o wne Councell in matter of peace or warrc 
 
 Iv s T.Yea my Lord, for it is faid in the Pronerbes, WW^ 
 are many ceutife Her s ^ there is health. And if the king had 
 made the warre by a generall confent>thc fcingdome in gene- 
 rail were bound tomaintaine the warre, and they could not 
 then fay when the King required ayde, that herndertooke a 
 need leflc warre. 
 
 Gov N s . You fay well,bu£ I pray you go on. 
 
 IvsT. Afcerthe fubfedy inthe i j.yeare, the Kingdcfired 
 to borrow 1 0000' of the Londoners, which they rcfufed to 
 lend. 
 
 C ov N s . And was not the King greatly troubled there- 
 with. 
 
 ivsT : Yea but the King troubled the Londoners (bone 
 after, for the king to^ke theaduanta-ge of a ryot made vpon 
 the Bifnop of Salisbury his mcn/cnftor the Mafor,and other 
 the abkftcittizens, committed the Maior to prifon in the 
 Caftle of W indfor, and others to other cadles, and made a 
 Lo-d Warden ofthiscittyjtili inthe end what with 1 coco^ 
 ready money, arid other' ricB^refdnirs, inftee^i©f lending 
 1 ocoo- ir cortthem<2 oodbV Bctweerte the'fifc^cnthyearc 
 and twt ntirh yt-are,hee had two aydes-giuen him inthe Par- 
 liaments ot VVinchefter and Weftminilers and this later 
 ivas given to furnifhthe Kings journey into Ire]and,toefta- 
 *lifli that eflate which was greatly fhaken (ince the death of 
 
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 the Kings Grandfather, who receiued thence yearely 500C0' 
 and during the Kings ftay in 1 reland he had a i o''' and 315*** 
 graunted. 
 
 CovKs. And good rcafon,for the King had in his army 
 . ^oochorfe and 3 oooo.fGotc. 
 
 Ivs T. That by your fauour,was th&Kings fauity : for great 
 armies do rather devour thcmfelues then deftroy enimics. 
 Such an army,(whereof the fourth part would haue conque- 
 red all Ireland; wasinrcfpeft of Ireland fuch an army as 
 Xerxts led into Grceccin this twentith yearc, wherein hec 
 had a tenth of the Cleargy , was the great confpiracy of the 
 Kings vnkJe. the Duke ofGlocefter, and of Moubrey,Arun- 
 delljNottingham.and Warwickjthe Archbilhop of Canter- 
 bury and the Abbotte on Weflminftcr, and others who in 
 the 2ifhycreoftheKing were all redeemed by parliament, 
 and what thinks your Lordfhip,was not this aflembly of the 
 3 flates for the kings e{^ate,wherein he fb prevailed, that he 
 . not onely overthrew thofe popular Lords, butbcfidcs fthc 
 Bnglifli Chronicle fay th^ the king To wrought and brought 
 things about,that hee obtained the power of both houfes to 
 be graunted to certaine per/ons,to 15-Nobkmen and Gen- 
 tl«men,or to feauen of them, 
 
 CovNS. Sir, whether the king wrought wclJor ill I caa- 
 not judge, but our Chronicles fay , that many things were 
 done in this parliament, to the difpleafure of no fmall num- 
 ber of people^ to wit, for that diverfe rightful] heireswer^ 
 difinhcrited of their lands & liuings, with which wrongful! 
 doings the people were much offended,- fo that the king 
 with thole that were about him, and chiefe incouriiell,came 
 into great infamy andflarider. 
 
 IvsT. My good Lord, if your Lordfhip will pardon 
 mee, I am of opinion that thofe Parliaments wherein the 
 kings of this land haue fatisfiedtheptopie, as they haue 
 beene euer profpcrous; fb where the kirghath rel^rained the 
 houfc, the contrary hath happened, for the Ks archiuemenrs 
 in thisParliament,were the ready preparations to his ruine, 
 
 Cov.Youmeaneby the general diftontecmec that follow- 
 
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 cdj and becaufethe King did not proceede legally with Glo- 
 cefter and others. Why Sir, this was not the firrt time that 
 the Kings of England haue done things without the Coun- 
 fcJl of the land : yea,contrary to the law. 
 
 IvsT : It is true my Lord in fome particulars, as ewen at 
 this time the Duke of Glocefter was made away at Callice 
 by ftrong hand, without any lawful] triall: for he was a man 
 fo beloued of the people and fo allied, hauing the Dukes of 
 Lancafter, and Yorke his brethren, tlieDuVe ofAumarle, 
 and the Duke of Hertford his Nephewcs, the great Earles 
 of Arubdelland Watwicke, with diuerfe other of his part 
 intheconrpiracy,astlicKing durft not trie him according 
 tothelaw:foracthetriallof Arundell and Warwicke, the 
 king was forced to enrertainc a petty army about him. 
 And though the Duke was greatly lamented, yet it cannoi 
 be denyed but that he was then a tray tor to the King. And 
 was it not fo my Lord with the Duke ofGuife : your Lord- 
 ITiip doth remember the fpurgald proverbe, that necejfitte 
 hath no lavp : arid my good Lord, it is the prafticc of doing 
 wrong, and of general! wrongs done, that brings danger, 
 and not where kings ^-jre preft in this or that particular, for 
 there IS great difference betwecne naturall cruelty andac-, 
 cidentall. And therefore it was oJMachmitels advice, that 
 all that a Ktng did in that kind^ hejhall do at once, nnd by hk 
 mercies afterwards wake the world know that his cruelty Was. 
 not ajfeBed, A nd my Lord take this for a generall rule, that 
 the immortall policy of a fiate cannot admit any law or pri^ 
 uiledge whatfbeuer, but in fon^.e particular or other, the 
 fame is neceffarily broken, yea in an Ariftocratia or popular 
 e[-late,which vaunts fo much of equality and common rihgr,; 
 more outrage hath beene committed then in. any Chriftran 
 Monarchy. 
 
 Cov N s. But whence came this hatred betweea the Duke 
 and the King his Nephew. 
 
 J VST. My Lord,the Dukes conftraining the King,when he. 
 was young, ftuckein the Kings heart, and now the Dukes, 
 proud fpeech to the King when he.e hadrcndrcd^rf/ for- 
 
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 fnerly engaged to the Duke of Brfttaine,kindkd agair.c thefe 
 
 ^oalcs that were not altogether cxtinguifhed, for he vfcd 
 
 thtie words: Tour grace ought to put^cnr body in great paine 
 
 towinneajireng holder tewne hyfeates a/ Hfntcs^ ere yon take 
 
 Vpon joH to fell r deliucr any to^'ne got fen bjt the WAnhood and 
 
 flrong hand APd policy of your twble progenitors. Whereat ^ 
 
 layth the ftory, the King changed his ccuntenanccj &c : and 
 
 to fay truerh, . it vva« a proud and maifterly fpeech of the 
 
 Duke; befidesthatinclufuiely hce taxed him oi floath and 
 
 cowardi(c, as if he had neuf^r put himlelfe to the adventure 
 
 of winning (lich a place, vndutifuli wordes ofa fubieft do 
 
 often take deeper roore then the memory of ill deedcsdo : 
 
 The Duke of Biron foindic when the King hadhimatad- 
 
 vantagc. Yea the late Earle of Efllx told Quccne E/ix.aheth 
 
 that her conditions wwrls crooked as her carkalle:but it coft Jf^^*^'''''**'^ 
 
 him his head, which-hisinfurrefticn had not coft him, buc 
 
 for that fpeech, who ^tHfay ijnto a King ( faith 7o^ ) then art 
 
 V(>icked,Qtx.XdX\Aj it is the fame thing to fay vnto a Lady,thou 
 
 arc crooked ( and .perchance more } as to fay vnto a King 
 
 that he \s wicked, and to f^^y that hee is a coward jOr to vie 
 
 any other wordes of difgrace , it v^ one and the fame cr- 
 
 rour- 
 
 Covn: But what fay youfor ArundelLabraucand vah'ant 
 man, who had the Kings pardon of his contempt during h?& 
 minority, 
 
 Ivs T : My good Lord, the Parliament which you fay dif- 
 • pates ckc Kings prerogatir.e,didqMitecontraiy,and d^ftroy- 
 ed the kings charter and pardon formerly giuen to Ariindeil, 
 And my good Lord, do you remember, that attheTarlia- 
 ment that wrought wonders, when thefe Lords compoun- 
 ded that parliament, as the King did this, they .were fomer- 
 cileiTe roward- all, that they thought their enemies, as the 
 Earle of Arundtll mofl infoleiitly fuffcr fid the Qu •• to kneele 
 vnto hiiTi three houres for the fauing of one of tier fcrvants^, 
 and that (corne of his mambai aitamente.rcpafin^. And to fay 
 tiiC truth, it is more barbarous & vnpardonable then any acl 
 that ever hee did to permit the vvifij , of bis Souefaigne to 
 
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 kneele to hira being the Kings vafTailc. For if he hadfaoed 
 the Lords Tcruantfredy at her firft requeft, as it is like e- 
 nough that the Qu: would alfb haue faued him,c^i/<?r/if/«c- 
 cnrretisparia ehttmbis aiiqnande : For your Lordfhip (ces 
 that the Earle of War wicke who was as farre in the treafbn 
 as any ofthe re ft:, was pardoned. It was alfb at this parlia* 
 men t that the Duke of Hereford acculed Adowbray Duke of 
 Norfoike, and that the Dukeof Hereford^fonncto the Duke 
 of Lancafter, was banidicd to the Kings confufion, as your 
 Lordfliip well knowcs, 
 
 Cov N s, I know it well.and God knowes that the K.had 
 then a filly and weakc Councell about him, that perfwaded 
 him tohanifh a Prince of the blood, a moft valiant man,and 
 the beft bcloued of the people, in gcncrallof any man liuing, 
 efpeciallyconfidering that the K. gaueeuery day more then 
 other offence to his fubie^tis.For bcfidesthat he fined the in- 
 habitants that aflifted the Lords in his Minority of the 17 
 lhires)which o:fifenee he had long before pardoned,his blank 
 Charters, and letting the Realme to farrae to meane perfons, 
 by whom he was wholly advifed, incrcated the peoples ha-. 
 tred towards the prefent gouemment. 
 
 I V s T : You fay well my L» Princes of an ill deftiny do aL 
 waies follow t/ie worft eounccll, or at leaft imbrace the befl 
 after opportunity is loft, ^i confdia non ex /no ctrdefed alt. 
 enii vinbui colligHnt yfifin animo fed aurib>u cogitant. And this 
 was not the leaft griefe of thefubie6l in generall, that thofe 
 men had the greaceft part of the fpoile of the commonwealth, 
 which neither by vertue, valour or counfell could adde any 
 thing vnto it : T^hilefl for^^tu^, nihil critdelifts^({mh jinte: - 
 Tiu.()^Ma/i, Remp. ij nrrode^tjut yiihiiin earn [no Inhere confer ent, 
 
 Cov N s Indecde the letting co farrnc the Realme was ve- 
 ry grieuoustothefubie6l. 
 
 Iv s T.Will your Lordfhip pardon me if I tel you that the 
 letting to Farme of his Maiefties Cullomes ( the greateft re- 
 venue of the Realme) is not very plealing, 
 
 C ov N And why I pray you,doth not the K. thereby raife- 
 his profitscuery third yearc, and one larmer out bids ano- 
 ther to the Kings advantage,. iv s t; 
 
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 Irs fi It is true my Lord.bat: it grieues the fabkSk to paj 
 cuftometothefubje<5t,for what mighty men arethofcl-ar- 
 raers become, and if thofe Farmers get many thoufands eve- 
 ry yeare,as the world kno.ves they doe, why fliould they 
 not now ( being men of infinite wealthy declare vnto the K. 
 vponanoathjWhat they hauegaincd,and henceforth become 
 the Kings collectors ofhisCuftome,did not Qiiecne EUz^- 
 ^^r^ who was reputed both a wife and juft PrincetTe, after 
 (hee had brought Cttfivmer Smith from 14000'ayeareto 
 420 oo^ a yeare.made him lay downc arecompence for thac 
 which hee had gotten .'' And if thefe Farmers doe giue noe 
 recompencc, let them yet prefent the King with thetrueth 
 of their receivings and profits. But my Lord for conclufion, 
 AhQt'Bolitnjibrook^e arriuing in £«^/«s»^ with afmalltroopc : 
 Notwithftanding the King at his Landing out Qi Ireland ^hid. 
 a fufficient and willing army :yet hee wanting courage to 
 defend hisright,gaue leaue to all his Souldiersto depart,and 
 put himfelte into his hands thatcaft him into his graue. 
 CovN s , Yet you fee,he was depos'd by Parliament, 
 IvsT. Afwellraay your Lordfhip fay he was knock'c 
 in the head by Parhament, for your Lordlhip knowes that if 
 King Richard had euer efcaped out of their fingers, that de- 
 pofcd him, ehe next Parliament would haue made all the de- 
 ppfcrs traitors and rebels,and that iuftly. \a which Parlia- 
 raetjOr rather vnlawfnl aflembly.there appeared but one ho- 
 neft man,to wit,the B.of Carlicl, who fcorned his life, and e- 
 ftate,in refpet^l of right & his alkgiance, & defeded the right 
 ofhis Soueraigne Lo:againft the K.ele6i and his partakers. 
 CoVNS. Well I pray go on wirh the Parliaments held 
 in the time ofhis fucceflkir Henry the fourth, 
 
 Iv s T. This King had mhh third yeare a fubfedy, and m 
 his fife a tenth of the Cleargie withouta Parliament 5 In his 
 fix: yeare he had fo great a fubff die, as the Houfe required 
 there might be no record thereof left to poftericy, for the 
 Houie gaue him 2o<"ofeuery knights Fee, and of euery 2 o.^ 
 hnd , 2 od and 1 2 ^^ the pound of goods. 
 Cov N s.Yea in theendofthisyere.the Parliamecpreflthe 
 
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 King to annex vnto the Crowne all temporal! poficffions be- 
 longing to Church-nicn within theland^which at that time,, 
 v/as the third foote of all £«^/.'i;v^. But the Bifiiops made 
 friends, and in thc.end faued their eftates, 
 
 IvsT, By this you fee, my Lord, that ^ycjwWf // was not 
 the firft that thought on fuch a bufines. And if King Hefjyj 
 the 8^^ had refciucd the Abbeycs, andothtr Church lands, 
 which he had giuenat that time, the rcuenue of the Crowne 
 of Efi^Und, had exceeded the rcuenue of the Crowne of 
 Spaifje, with both the Indies,whcr( as vftd as it was, (a little 
 enriched the Crowne)(trued but to make a number of petti- 
 foggers, and other gentlemen. 
 
 GovNs. But what hadtheking in fteed of this great re- 
 venue. 
 
 IvsT. Heehada ij'^^'oftheCommons, andateoth,and 
 ahalfe of the Clergy, and witballj all pcn(;ons graunred by 
 l^ing Edward^and king Richard were made voide. it was al- 
 fomoved.thatall Crowne lands formerly giuen(at leaft gi- 
 ven by K.£df:and K./i!/£:^:)(hould be taken backe. 
 
 .CovNs. What thinke you ofthatjSir? would it not haue 
 beqne a diiLoriOar to the:king? and would rot his Succeifors 
 haue done.the like to thofe that the King had aduancid / 
 
 IvsT. I cannot anfwere your Lordfiiip, but by diflin- 
 guifiiing; for Vwhere the Kings had giuen land for fcruiccs, 
 ar)d had not bcens ouer-reachcd in iiis gifts, there it had bin 
 adiilionQurtotheking, to haue made voide thcgrauntsof 
 h]spredccciTors,orhiJ>graunts;but all thofe graunts of the 
 kingeS) wherein they w?et e deceived, the very cuftomc and 
 policy o^ England makes tiiem voyde at this day. 
 
 CovNs. How meane you that, for his Majeftie hath gi- 
 vena great deaje of Land among vsiincehe came into £«^- 
 Ur:dj and would it ftand with the kinges honour to tnkc it. 
 from vs-^gainc. 
 
 Ivsx- Ycamy Lord> very vvelhvirh the kinges honour, 
 if your Loidn>?p,ar any Lordelfc, hiue vnder thcnameof 
 I o» ' la.'id a y^arejgotten 5 o o' l&nd,and fo alter that rate. 
 
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 CovNS'. I will never belieue that his Majsfifc will ever 
 Hbe any foch thing. 
 
 Iv ST, And 1 belieue as your Lordfhip dothjbat we fpake 
 yre-whilebf chofe that dilTwsded the King troni calling it a 
 Parliament : And your Lordlliip asked me the rcafon, why 
 any man fliould di(Tfwade it, or tcare it, to which, this place 
 giues mc an opportunity to make your Lordfhip an anfWer, 
 for though his Majefty will of himfelf ntver queftion thofe 
 graunts, yet when the Commons fliall make humble petiti- 
 on to the King in Parlianienr.that it will pleafe his Maieftie 
 toafsift them in his reliefer with that which ought to be his 
 owne, which, if it will pleafe his'Majcftie toyceld vnto,the 
 houfe WillmOil willingly turniih and fupply the reft, with 
 what grace can his Majeftic deny that honeil: fuite of theirs, 
 the like hauing beene done in many Kings times before ? 
 This proceeding, my good Lord, may perchance proue all 
 your phr^fes of the Kings honour, falfc£«^///7j. 
 
 CovNS. Butthis cannot conccrne many, and for my fclf^ 
 I am fure it concernes me littl:". 
 
 IvsT. It is true my Lord, and there are not many that 
 diffwadehis Majafliefrom a Parliament. 
 
 CovNs. But ihey are great ones, afcw of which will 
 (erue the tnrnc well enough, 
 
 IvsT. But my Lord, be theyneuer {o great^as great as 
 Gyants) yet if they didwade the King from his ready and' 
 atfured way of his fubfiflence, they muil: dcvife how the K'.' 
 may be elfi- where fupplied^ for they other wife runne into a 
 dangerous fortune. 
 
 Gov Ns. Hold you contented Sir, the King needes no 
 great diifwafion, 
 
 IvsT. My Lordjiearne ofme.that there is none of you all^ 
 that can pierce the King.- it is an effenriall property ofa m.an 
 trucly wife, not to open all tlie boxes of his borome,even to 
 thofe that are neareit and dearcll: vnto him, for when a man 
 is dilcovetedtothcvery botcome; he is afrer the Icffe cftee- 
 med. 1 dare vndertake,rhat when your Lordfliip iiath ferved 
 the King twice twdueyeares more, you will finde, that his 
 
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 Majcftie hath refcrved fomewhat beyond all your capaci. 
 ticSjhis Majtfty hath great reafon to put off the Parliament, 
 ay his laft refuge, and in the meane time, to make trial! of all 
 yourlouesto ferue bim, for his Majcflie hath had good ex- 
 perience, how well youcan ferue yourfelucs : But when the 
 King findSjthat the building of your owne fortunes and fa- 
 6lions,hath beene the diligent ftudiss, and the fcrvice of his 
 Majeftie, buttheexereifesof yourleifures : Hee may then 
 perchance caft himfeif vpon the generall loue of his people, 
 of which ( I truft) hee fhaH neuer be deceiued, andleaueas 
 many of your Lordihips as haue pilfered from the Crowne, 
 to their examination. 
 
 C ovN s . Well Sir, I take no great pleafurc in this difpute , 
 goeonlpray. 
 
 I VST. In that Kinges 5^^ yeare, hee had al(b a fubfcdy, 
 which he got by holding the houfe together from Eafter to 
 ChriftmaSjand would not fnffer them to dtpart.He hadalfo 
 a fubfcdy in his ninth yearc. In his eleuenth yeare the Com- 
 mons did againe prefle the king to take all the temporalities 
 of the Church. men into his hands> which they proved fuf- 
 flcient to maintaine 1 5 o.Earles, 15 oo.knights, & 6400. Ef^ 
 quiersj with a hundred hofpitals, but they not prevayliwg, 
 gaue the King a fubfedy. 
 
 As for the notorious Prince, iF/<»ry the fift, I finde,that he 
 had given him in hisfecond yeare 3 0000 o.markcs,and after 
 that two other fubfedies, onein his fifth yeare, another in his 
 ^ninth, without any difputes. 
 
 In the time of his fuccelTour Henry tht fixt, there were 
 not many lubfedies. In his third ytare, he had a fubfedy of a 
 Tunnage and Poundage. And here Cfaith John Stow) began 
 rhofe paymcncs, which wee call(fuftomes,becaure the pay- 
 ment v/as continued; whereas before that time it was gran- 
 ted but for a yeare, two or three, according to the kings oc- 
 cafions. He \\Adi aUoan ayde and gathering of money in his 
 fourth yearc-. and the like in his tcn'ch yeare, and in his thir- 
 teenih verea i y'^. He had alfo a fifteenth for thecouneying 
 
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 ^«if the Queenc wat of France into England, In the twenty tt j q^L^^ 
 eight yeare of that King was the a6ie of Refiimption of all J a -^ 
 honours,towncSjCaftles,Signkuries,villages,Manors,lands, 
 tenements,rents,re\rerfions/eeSj^c. But becaufe the u ages 
 of the Kings feruants, wcseby the ftriflnesof tlie aftealfb 
 reftrained, this adc of Refumption was expounded in the 
 V&rliumtnt it ReaMn£ ihe 3 1'^h yeare of the Kings rei^ne. 
 
 CovNs. I perceiue chat thofe a6ls of Refumption were 
 ordinary in former times j for King Stephen refumcd the 
 landi, which in former times he had giuento make friends 
 during the Ciuill warres. And Benry the ftcond rcfumed 
 all (without exception) which King 5rr^^*« had not refu- 
 mcd J for although King Stepbett tookc backc a great 
 deale, yet he fuffcred his truftieft fcrvants to eftjoy his 
 gift. . 
 
 JvsT. Yes my lord, & in after times alfb ; for this was 
 mot the laft, nor (hall be the laft , I hope. And judge you ray 
 Lord, whether the Parliaments doe not only ferue the King, 
 whatfoeueris (aid to the contrary ; for as all King Henry the 
 6 J gifts and graunts were made Yoide by the Duke oiTorke, ' 
 when he was in pofleffion of the kingdomc by Parliament. 
 So in the time of iC.H. when K.Edw : was beaten out again, 
 the Parliament of W<^Jiminfi^r made all his z^s voyde, made 
 him & all his folioivers traytors, and gaue the King many of 
 their heads & lands. The Parliaments of £«gi4/frt( do aiwaies 
 fcrue the King in pofteifion. It ieru'd /?/V^.thc(econd to con- 
 demne the popular Lords. Ir (cru'd Solkngbrookie todcpoft 
 Rich, When £<^»r.che4.had the Scepter, it made them ail 
 ;b;ggars that had followed /i/.the 6. And it did the like for 
 H. when Edx».w2s driuen cur. The Parliaments arc as the 
 friendfliip of this world is, which alwayesfoUoweth prof- 
 parity . For K.Edw, the 4: after that he was poflk fled ofthd 
 Crown,hchadinhi8i 3.ycareaiubfedyfrtely^ii]enhim :& 
 in the yeare following hee tooke a benevolence through 
 EngUnds which arbitrary taking fro the people, feru'd that 
 ambitious tray tor cheDuke of Bucks. Aft .°r the Kings death 
 was a plaufible argument to perfwade ilie multitude, ' 
 
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 that they (hould not permit (faith SkThffMostJkfpreXhis 
 line to raigns any longer vpon them. ovi,-^ v m^ ■.> 
 
 , CovNs. Well Sir, what fay you.tOjthcParlitnEiem of 
 RichArd the third his time ? • : ; " 
 
 IvsT. Ifindebutone, and therein he trade diuerfe good 
 Lavvcs.For T^Menryx\\t ieuenth ift the beginning of his third 
 yeare he had by Parliament an ayds granted vnto him, to- 
 wards the reliefc of the Dake o^BrttiAifie, tncn aflailedby 
 the French King. And although the King did not enter into 
 the warre, but by the a^iviceol tl>e three eftatcs j who did 
 willingly contribute: Yet thofe Northerne men which loued 
 Richard the third, railed rebellion vrtder colour of the mony 
 imposed, & murthered ihz Earle of NorthnmberUnd whom 
 the King employed in that Colle<Sl:ion. By which your 
 Lordfliip lees, that it hath not beene for tax?s and impoiiti- 
 ons alone, that the ill dirpofcdbauc taken Amies ; buceuen 
 fbrthore.paymencsv\jbich.ha«gJ?ecne;ap^Q)t^cd by Parliar. 
 
 Covins, Arid what becameofthefb Rebels? 
 ' IvsT. They were fairelyhang'd, and the money leviect 
 notwithftanding,inthe Kings firl\ yeare he gathered a mar- 
 vailous great madeof mony, by a benevolence^: taking pat- 
 ternebythis kind of levie from £^1^.4''"- But the King eau- 
 fed it firft tobe rncued in Parliament where it was allowed,- 
 bccaufe the poorer fort were therein fpjred. Yet it is true 
 that the King ^fedlome arte, for in his Letters hec declared 
 that heev\ouId meafure euery mans afiedions by his gifts. 
 In the thirteenth yeare hee had aifo a kibfcdy , v\ heiteupon 
 the Cornidi me,n tooke Armes, as the Northerne men^ 
 of the BiQioppricke had done, in? the. third yeare of the 
 King. . ■f>'-:0^ 
 
 ^CovNS. It is without example, that euer the people 
 haue rebelled for any thing granted by Parliament^ faue in 
 this kings dayes. 
 
 iviT. Your.Loirdfhip mud confider, that he was not o- 
 uet rRuch-belou'd, forhectooHe many advantiJges vpon the 
 peopk .^nd the NobilitiV'. both,. ;•: , 
 
 . • CoVNS, 
 
CevN s . And I pc^y you what fay they now ofthc new- 
 impoficions lately laJde by the Kings Maiefty /" doe they fay 
 that they arc juftly or vnjurtjy laide > 
 
 IvsT, To Impole vpon all thing? brought into the 
 Kingdome is very ancient : which impofing when it hath 
 becne continued acertaine timejs then called Cuftomes,be- 
 caufe the fubie^'is are accuftomed to pay it, and yet the great 
 taxe vpon wine is ftiil called Impoftbtcaiife it wasinipoicd 
 after theordinary race ot payment, had lafted many yearies, 
 .But wc doe noxv a dayes vnderftand thofe things to bee im- 
 pofitions, which are rai(ed by the commaund of Princes, 
 without the adu.ceof the common wealth, though ( as I 
 takeit;)much otthar which is nowcalledcuftome, was at 
 the firit impofcd by Prerogatiue royall : Now w^^ether it be 
 time or conlent that makes them jufl:,, I cannot define, were 
 they jjft becaufe new, and not juftifiedyet by time, or vn- 
 Jurt becaufe they want a generall confent : yet is this rule of 
 ey^rifiotle verified in rcfpeft of his Majeftie : aJf^WM ttmeni 
 homines tntHJiiim pAti a princi^e qnem cultorem dei j>mant^ 
 Yea my Lord, thev are alfo the more willingly borne, be- 
 caufe all the world knowcs they are no new Inventionof 
 the Kings.' and \i thofe that advifed his Maiellie toimpo/e 
 them, had railed hisland.<v(as it was offered them)to 2 oooo^ 
 •more then it was, and his wards to ariiuchasafor;:(aid,ihey 
 had done him farre more acceprableferuicc. But they ftad 
 their ownc ends in ref ufing the one, and accepting the other. 
 If the land had beene railed, they could not haus icleffed 
 the beft of it for themfelucs:lf the iropofitions had not been 
 laide, fomeotrhem could not haue their fllkes, others pee- 
 <:es in farme, which indited grisuod therul>ie6t tenne tiiTitebj 
 more then that which his MaielHe enioyeth. But ctf^. 
 tainly they made a great aduantage that were the" ^dvi- 
 Tcrs, - for if,any tumulc had followed his Maiefly, ready 
 '.way had beene to haue ddiuercd tfacm ouer to the 
 
 ;pc0pie. '■• •; .; . • . 
 
 • Gov N s . , B.ut. thinke you that the King would haucde- 
 fe.rcd tilt m if any tipubles had followed / ■ . - 
 
 H 2 . IVST, 
 
TvsT. I know not my Lord, it was MachiafueU contu 
 fell to €<zfar 'Borgid to doe it, and iT. H, the 8. dcliuercd rp 
 Empfon and Dudley, y a the fame King, when the great Car- 
 dinal! Wffolfty^who gouerned the King and all his cftatc.had 
 ( by requiring the fixe part oi euery mans goods for the 
 King) railed a rebellion, the King I fay difavowed himab- 
 folutely, that hid not the Dukes oi Norfolke and Suffolk^ 
 appealed the people.thc Cardinall had fang no more Malfc: 
 for theYearc the words ofour Story : The King then came to 
 IVefimiaJfer to the Cardinals palace, and affembled there a 
 great Counceil, in which he protefted, that his minde wot »f- 
 Hcr to aike any thing of his commons which might found to the 
 breach of his Lawes. Wheiefotc hec then willed them 
 to know by wh&fc meanes they were fo Itri ft ly giuen 
 foorth. Now my Lord,, how the Cardinal! would 
 haue Ihifted himfelfe, by faying,, / had the opinion of the 
 Judges , had net the . rcbcllioa bcene appeafd, I greatijr 
 doubt. 
 
 CovNS. But good Sir, you blanch my queftion, and, 
 anfwerc race by examples, I aske you whether or noc 
 injany fucli tumult) the people pretending againft anyone or 
 two great OfficcrSjthe King fhoulddeliucr them, oc defend 
 them ? 
 
 IvsT. My good lord, the people haue not flaydc for- 
 the kings deliucry* neither in EngUr:d^ nor in France : Your 
 Lordibip knowes how the Ghancellour, Trcaferer, and 
 Chiefe luftice, with many others at feuerall tmts haoe bin 
 vfed by the Rebels: And the MarfliaIs,ConftabIes,and Trea- 
 furers in France^ haue beene cut in peeces in Ch/tries thefixc 
 his time.Now to your Lordflhips qucftion, I fay that where 
 any man lliall giuea King perilous advice, as may either 
 cAufea Rebellion, ordraw the peoples loue from the King, I 
 fay,thataKiogfballbeadvifedtobani(hhim:BBtiftheKirg 
 doeabfblutely command his feruan: to doe any thing difi. 
 pleafingtothe Common- wealth, and tohisownpcrilJ,thcrc 
 is the King bound in honour to defend him. But my good 
 Lord lor conclufoa,, there is no man in Erjgl4nd\[m.yi'S!i lay 
 
 any/ 
 
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 any invention either grieuous or againrt law vpon the 
 Kings Maiefty : And therefore your Lordfhips muftfliare ic 
 amongftyou, 
 
 CovNS. For my partjl had no hand in it,(Itfiinke) /»- 
 ^ram was he that propounded ic totheTrcafurer. 
 
 IvsT. Alas my good Lord, cuery poorc wayter in the 
 Cuftomc-h«ufe , oreuery promooter might hauc done ir, 
 there is no invcn!:ion in thc(e things.ToIay impofitions,and 
 (ell the Kings lands, arepoore and common dcuices. It is 
 true that /«^>*^w and his fellowcsare odious men, and there- 
 fore his Maieftie plcaPd the people greatly to put him from 
 theCoffcrfliip. It is better for a Prince tovfc fuchakinde 
 ofmen, then to countenance them, hang men are neceflary 
 in a common, wealth : yet in the Netherlands, none but a 
 hangmans (bnne will marry a hangmans daughter. Now 
 my Lord, the laft gathering which Hefjrj the feauenrh made, 
 was in his twentieth yeare^ wherein hee had another bene* 
 volcnceboth oftheCleargyand Laity, a part of which ta- 
 ken of the poorer fort, hee ordained by his rcrtamentthat it 
 Ihould bee reftored. And for King Nerjrj the eight , al- 
 though hee was left in a mod pkncituU e£bate, yet hee woh- 
 derfully preft his people with great payments ; for in the 
 beginningofhistime it was infinite that he fpenc inMaf- 
 king and Tilting, Banqciecting, and other vanities, before he 
 waij entred into the moft confijming cxpence of the nx)fl; 
 fond and fruit!e(Te war re thateuer King vndertooke. In his 
 fourth yearehehad one of the greated fiibfcdies thateuer 
 was graunted ; for bcfides two fiftecnes and two difmes.he 
 v(ed i)^«/^jLawe©f Capitation or head money,and had of 
 euery Duke ten marks, of cuery Earlefiue pounds, ofeue- 
 ry Lord foure pounds, of eucry Knight foure marker, and e*- 
 uery man rated at 8Un goods,4 markes,and fbaftcr the rate: 
 yea cuery man that was valued but at 40 paidc i 2*^, and e^ 
 uery man and woman abouc 1 5 yeares 4^', Hee had aKbin- 
 his fixt years diuers fubfedies granted him. In his four- 
 teenth their was atenth demaundrd ofeuery m^ans goods, 
 but it was moderated. In rhe Parliimenc Allowing » 
 
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 the Clerglegaue the King the halfe of their fpirltualHiufngs 
 for oneyeare;& of the Laicy there was demanded 8000 oo^, 
 ivhich could not be Iravied in England, but it was a marvel- 
 lous great gift that the king had giueh him at that time. Jn 
 the Kings -feuentcenth yearc wai the Rebellion be fore Tpo- 
 ken of, wherein the King difavowed the Cardinal): ■ Jnhis 
 feuenteenth ycere hce had the tenth and fifteenth giuen 
 by Parliapnent, vvhk:h were before that time p?ide to the 
 Pope. And before that alfo, the monycs that the King bor- 
 rowed in bis fifteenth y care were forgiuen him by Parlia- 
 ment in his feuenteenth ycare. In his 3 5 .ycare a (ubfedy was 
 grantfdof4'4hepoiindof euery man worth in goods from 
 2 o^to 5',fiom 5'to .10' and vpwards of eucry pound 2^- And 
 all (IrangerSjdenifens and others doubled this Itimme, ftran- 
 gers not being inhabitants aboue 1 6. ycarts 4^^ a head. AH 
 that had Lands, Fees, and Annuities, from 20 to 5- and fo 
 double as they did for goods : And the Cleargy gaue 6*^ the 
 pound, in the thirty leuenth yeerc,a Benevolence was taken 
 not voluntary, but rated by Gominiflioneri, which becaufe 
 one of the Aldermen ref ufed to pay,he was fent for a fouldier 
 mto Scot Unci. He \rta.d alio another great fubf- dy of fixe {hil- 
 lings the pound of the Cler"gy ,and t wo fhillings eight pence 
 of the goods of the Laity, and fourc (hillings the pound vpon 
 Lands. .' 
 
 Inthe fecond ycare of Edward the fixt, the Parliament 
 gaue the King an aydeoftwelue pence the pcund of goods 
 of his Naturall fubie^s,and two fhillings the pound ol' Ih-an- 
 gers,and this to continue forthree yeares, and by the ftatutc 
 of the fecond and third of Ed\> ard tht f?kt, irtnay rppcsie, 
 ■the fame Parliament did alio giue a fscond aydc,. as follow- 
 •erh,fto wit) ofeuery Ewe kcptin feuerail pafiures,^'' : of 
 tuery weather kept as aforefaid i^ : of eucry fiieepe kept in 
 ■theCom.mOn.i^ob. TheHoufe gaue the King alfo^^^the 
 pound ofeuery woollen cloath made for the fale through- 
 out En^Undiox three yeares In the third amd fourth of the 
 Ilingybyreafon ofthetroublelome gathering of the poly 
 «niony vpos n)e«pe,and the taxe vpon cloai'h,thisa61e oJ fub- 
 
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 Hcii^ was rcpeal'd, and other rclicfc giuen the King, and m 
 the kings (cauench yeare hee had a fubfcdy and twofif- 
 teencs. 
 
 In the firft yeare of Queenc tJ^ary, tunnage and poun- M,R, 
 dage were granted. In the fccond yeare a fubfcdy was giuen 
 to KingT^^^/j/j^and to the Qucene,fhcehad alfo a third Tub- 
 {t6y in ty4mis ^.^ ^. ' 
 
 Now my Lord, for the Parliaments of the late Qaecnes ^//~ r 
 timCjin which there was nothing nevv,neithcr head nToney, 
 nor (hecpe money. nor efciiagc, nor any of thefe kindes of 
 payments was required,butontl-y the ordinary rubfedics,& 
 thole as eafily graunted as demaunded, I Ihaii not neede to 
 trouble your Lord fliip with any of them, neither can I in- 
 forhieyour Lordfhip of all the paHages and a6tes which 
 -haue pafTed, for they are not extanr,nor printed, 
 -• CbVNs. No, ic were buttimeloft tolpcakc ofthcIac- 
 ter'jSfid by thofe that are already remembred, we may fudgfe 
 of the refi ,; for thofe of the gr^ateft importance are pLib- 
 iique. B-Jt I pray you deale freely with mee, what you 
 thinks would bee done for his Maieftie, if hee Ihould call a 
 Parliam^rru acthis timej or what would be required ac his 
 Maieftieshands.^ ;. u 
 
 Ivs T, The firft thing that would be rcq'ured, would be 
 the fame that was required by the Commons in the thir- 
 teenth yeare of /^.the S ; ^to wit) chat if any man of the com- 
 mons houfe fliould fpeake more largely i, then of diiety hec 
 ooghc to doe,all fuch offences to be pardoned.andthat to be 
 of record'. 
 
 CovNS. So might euery Companion fpeake of the King 
 whar. they lift. 
 
 IviT. No my Lord ^ the -reuerence' which a VafTdH 
 owech to hi3 Soueraigne> is alwaies intended for euery 
 fp.fech, hovvfocuer it mull in- port thegood of the King, and 
 his eftace, and fo long it may bee eafily pardoned^ othcrwif^ 
 hot, for in QtJtene EUz^ateths time >. who gaiie frecdome 
 ok fp :ech in ail Patliamems , whtn W^yay^ordj made xkoU 
 " ' moti- 
 
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 isotions, that were but fuppofed dangerous to the Qaeencs 
 cftate,he was imprifoncd intheTowre,notwithftandingthc 
 ,priviledge of the hotik jaud there died. 
 
 CovNS. What fay you to the Scieiltan vefers rcm«m- 
 ibrcd in the hft Parhamcnt ? 
 
 IvsT. I fay, h(x repented him heartily that vfed tb« 
 speech, and indeed bcfdes that, it was leditious, this ex- 
 am pie held not : The Frtncb in Sctcily vfurped that King- 
 ^domc, they 4cept neither law nor faith, they tooke away the 
 inheritance of the Inhabitants, they tooke from them their 
 wiuesjand rauifhed their daughters, committing all other 
 iniolencies that.could bee imagined. The Kings Maicily 
 is the N iturall Lord oiEngUod, bis Vadals oi ScetUndo. 
 bey the EngUfli Lawes, if they breakc tfacm, they arc puni- 
 Ihed without refpcft. Yea his Maiefly put one of his Ba- 
 rons to a Ihamefull death, for being contenting onely to the 
 death of a Common Fencer i And which of ;thefe eucr did or 
 durfl commit any outrage in En^lmd, but lo (ay the trueth, 
 the opinion of packing the laft, was thccaufc of the conten- 
 tion and dilbrder th» happened. 
 
 Cgvns. Why fir r" doe you not think it befitocompound 
 .a Parliament of the Kings fcruaonts and others, that (hallin 
 all obey the kings defires ? 
 
 IVsT. Certaintly no, for it hath neucr fi«:ceedcd well, 
 iieitheronthe kings part, nor on thcrubie<5ls,asby the Par- 
 liament before-remcmbred your Lordfbippe may gatbcr, 
 forfromfuchacompofitiondoeaiifeall jefiloufies, and all 
 contentions. It was pra6lized in elder times, to the great 
 trouble of the kingdome , and to the lolle and ruinc oi ma- 
 ny. It WaS of latter time vfed by King Henry the eight, 
 feuc euery way to his difadvantage. When the King leaues 
 himfelfe to his people , they allure themftlues that they 
 are trufted and bcloucd of their kinr, and there was ncuer 
 any afTembJy fo barbarous, as not to auniwerc the iouc 
 and truft of their King. Hmry the Hxt when hiscftatc was 
 inc#e5l vttcrly ouerthrowne, tc vtterly impouerifhed at' 
 
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 the humble rcqueft of his Treafurer made the {ame knowne 
 to the Houfe:Or othervvife,v{ing rhe Trefurers own words 
 He humbly defired the King to take his Staffe,that he might 
 faue his wardfliip. 
 
 ^e/mc. But you knovv,they will prefently be in hand with 
 thofe impofitions^ which the King hath layd by his owne 
 RoyallPrerogatiue. * 
 
 /»//. Perchance not my Lord ; but rather with thofe im- 
 pofitions that haue beene by fome of your Lordfhips layd 
 vpon the King,whieh did not fome of your Lordfhips feare 
 more then you doe the impofitions layd vpon the Subieds, 
 you would neuer diffwade his Maieflie from a Parliament : 
 For no man doubted,but that his Maieflie was aduifed to lay 
 thofe impoiations by his Councelli and for particular things 
 on which they were layd, the aduicc came fiompettiefel- 
 lowes (though now great ones) belonging to the Cuflomc- 
 Houfe. Now my Lord, what preiudice hath his Maieftie 
 ( hisReuenue being kept vp ) if the impofitions that were 
 layd by the aduice of a few, be in Parliament layd by the ge- 
 nerall CounccU of the KindgomCjNvhich takes off all grudg-- 
 ing and complaint. 
 
 ^ouHc. Yea Sir, but that which Is done by the King,with 
 the aduice of his priuate or priuic Councell, is done by the 
 Kings abfblute power. 
 
 luff. And by whole power is it done in Parliament, biit 
 by the Kings abfolute power ? Miflake it not my Lord : The 
 three Eftates doe but aduilc, as the priuie Councell doth,, 
 which aduice if the Kingimbrace.it becomes the Kings own 
 Ad in the one,and the Kings Law in the other, for without 
 the Kings acceptation, both the publicke and priuate aduices 
 be but as emptie Egg-fhels ; and what doth his Maieflie lofe 
 if fome of thofe things,which concernes the poorer fort be 
 made fir-ee againe,and the Reuenue kept vp vpon that which 
 is fuperfluous ? -Is it a loffe to the King to be beloued of the 
 Commons ? If it be reuenue w hich the Kingfeekes,is it not 
 better to take it of thofe that laugh, then of thofe that cry ? 
 Tea if all be content to pay vpon moderation and change of 
 
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 the Species : I^ it not more honourable & more fafe for the 
 Kingjthat the Subied pay by perfwafionjthen to haue them 
 conltrayned ? If they be contented to whip themfGliies for 
 the King, were it not better to giue them the Rod into their 
 handsjthen to commit them to the Executioner ? Certainly 
 it is farr more happy For a Soueraigne Prince,that a Subiecl, 
 open his purfe vvillingly, then tliat the fame be opened by 
 violence. BefideSjthat when impolitions are layd by Parlia- 
 ment,they arc gathered by the authoritie of the Law,vv hich 
 ( as afbref aid ) reicJlcth all complaints, and ftoppeth euerie 
 mutinous mouth: It fhali eucr be my prayer that the King 
 embrace the Connctilof Honour and vafetie, and let other 
 Princes embrace that of force. 
 
 (^ounc. But good Sir,it is his Prerogatiue which the King 
 ftands vpottj and it is ihe Prerogatiue of the Kings^thatthe 
 Pariiamen s doe alldiminifli. 
 
 IttU. If your Lordfhip would pardon me, I would fay 
 then, that your Lordfjhipsobiefiionagainft Parliaments is 
 rediculous. In former Parliaments three things haue beene 
 luppofed diihonour of the King. The firfl,that the Subiecls 
 haue conditioned with the King, when the King hath needed • 
 them,to haue the great Charter confirmed:¥lx fecond,that 
 the Eitates haue made Treafurers for the neceffarie and pro- 
 fitable disburfing of thofe llmlmes by them giaen, to the 
 end, that the Kings, to whom they were giuen, fnould ex- 
 pend them for their own defencc,and for the defence oi the 
 Common-wealth : The third,that theie haue prelt the King 
 to difcharge f bme great Officers of the Crowne,and to elect 
 others. As touching the firfl my Lord, I would faine learne 
 what difaduantage the Kings of this Land haue had by con- 
 firming the great Charter, the breach of which haue ferued 
 onely men of your Lorcillliips ranke, to alfift their owne 
 palfioiis, and to punifh ^nd imprifcn at their owne difcreti- 
 on the Kings poorc Subieds. Concerning their priuate 
 hatred, with the colour of the Kings feruice, for the Kings 
 MaiefHe take no mans inheritance (as t haue laid before)nor 
 
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 any mans life, biitbvtheLawoftbeLancI, according to the 
 Cl]arttr.Neither cioth his Majcfty impnion any man (mat- 
 ttr oFpia.'f-icc, w hich ccncernesthe prtfcruation of his c- 
 llate excepted; but by the law of the land. Anti yet he vlcth 
 his prcrogatiue as all the Kings of ii«^/W. haiie euer vfcd 
 it.-fbrthefiipreame realbn caufe to pi-a:l:ire many things 
 without tlie adliice ofthe law. As in mfurreflions and rebel- 
 lionSjit vleth the marftiall, and not the common law, with- 
 out any breach ofthe Cliarter^the intent oftheCharterccn- 
 fidercd truely. Neither hath any Subjecl maile complaint, 
 or bcenegrieued,in that the Kings ofthisland/or their own 
 fafetiesj& preferuation oftheir eftateSjhaue vfed their Pre- 
 rogatiuesjthe great Enfignc, on which there is written/^/i 
 Deo. And my good Lord^ \\2iSV\otBucl^ngham in England, 
 and Byron in fr.tw^condemned^their Pcci es vncall'd ? And 
 vvithall,vvas not Byron vtterlyf contrary to tlie cuftomes and 
 priuiledges of the French) denyed an aduccate to affiil his 
 defence? for where lawes forecaft cannot prouide remedies 
 for future dangers. Princes are forced* to afsiftthtmielues 
 by their Trerogatiues. But that which hath beene euer grie- 
 uouSjandthe caufe of many troubles,very dangerous is,that 
 your Lordihips abufing the reafoflsof itate, doe punifh and 
 imprifbn the Kings Subjed-s at your pieallire. It is you my 
 Lords, that when Sub jeds haue fometimes neede of the 
 Kings prercgatiue, doe then vie the ftrengdi ofthe Iaw,and 
 wkn they require the law, you afPift them with thepre- 
 rogatiue,and tread the great Charter (which hath been con- 
 firmed by 16. Ads of; Parliament) vnder your te, as a 
 tome parchment or \v afte paper . 
 
 Counc. <oood Sir j which of vs doe in this fort breake 
 the great Charter? perchance ycu meane,that we haue adui- 
 fed the King to lay the new impofitions. 
 
 lu§l. ■ No my Lord : there is nothing in the great Char- 
 ter againft impofiticns : and befidesthat,necelsiry dcthper- 
 fwade them. And ifnecelsitie doeinfomev hat excufe apri- 
 iiaitmmaforttori, it may then excufe a Prince. Againe, 
 
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 the KingsMaieftie hath profit and mcreafe of reuenue by the 
 impofitions. But there are of your Lorcllhips(contrarie to 
 the clire<ft Letter of thz Charter ) that iinprifon the Kings 
 Subieas,ancl deny them the benefit of the Law,to the Kings 
 difprofit. And what doe you othervvife thereby (if the impo- 
 fitions be in any fort grieuous ) but Renonare dolores ? And 
 withall digg out of the duft the long-buried memorie of tlie 
 Subieds former intentions with their Kings. 
 (^onm, W hat meaneyouhy that? 
 ' /»/?. I will tell your Lordfhip when I dare, in the meane 
 time it is enough for me,to put your Lordfhip in mind,that 
 jdlthe Eftates in the World, in the offence of the people, 
 liaue either had profitor neceflitie to perfvvade them to ad- 
 uenture it,ofwhich,if neither be vrgent,and yet the Subie<5l 
 exceedingly grieued,yourLord{liip may coniedure,that the 
 Houfe will be humble f liitors for a redreffe , And if it be a ^ 
 Maxime in policie to pleafe the people in all things indiffe- 
 rent, and neuer fuffer them to be beaten,butfor the Kings 
 benefit ( for there are no blowes forgotten with the fmart 
 but thofe) then I fay to make them Vaflals to VafTals, is but 
 to batter downe thofe maflcring buildings , ereded by King 
 ■Henry the Seuenth,and fortified by his Sonne, by which the 
 People and Gentry of England were brought to depend vp- 
 ^J^^^l' on the King alone- Yea my good Lord, our late deare So- 
 SliK.iweth. yej-aigne kept them vp,and to their aduantage,as well repai- 
 red as euer Prince did* Defend inejandfpend me, faith the 
 IrifhChurle. 
 
 Counc. Then you thinke that this violent breach of the 
 Charter will be the caufe of feeking the conformation of it 
 in the nejft Parliamentj. which otherwife could neucr haue 
 been moued. 
 
 /«/?. I know no^my good Lordjperchance not,for ifthe 
 Houfe prefTe the King to graunt vnto them all that is theirs 
 by the Iaw,they cannot ( in lufHcc ) refufe the King all that 
 is his by the Law. Andwhcrewill be the iflue of fueh a 
 contention? I dare not diuine, butfure I am that it will 
 
 tend 
 
tend to the preiiulice both of theKing and Subiec'V. 
 
 hmc. If they diipute not their ownliberties,why Ihould 
 they then difpute the-Kings libcrties,which we call his Pre- 
 
 rogatiue, . 
 
 /«/?. Amon^romanyandfodmcrsSpints, no man can 
 foretell what may be propounded, but howloeuer, iftlie 
 matter be not nightly handled on the Kings behalfe, thele 
 dilputes vviU foone difiblue, for the King hatkf o little need • 
 of his Prerogatiue,and fo great aduantage by the lawcs, as 
 the feare of imparing the orie,to wit, the Prerogatiue, is fo 
 impofTible,- and the burthen of the other,to wit,the Law 
 fo weightie, as but by a branch of the Kings Prerogatiue, 
 namely, of his rcmiffion and pardon,the Subied is no way . 
 able to vndergoe it. This my Lord is no matter of fioarilh 
 that I haue faid,but it is the truth,and vnanfvverable. 
 {omc. But to execute the Lavves verie feuerely, would be 
 
 verie grieuous. ' .• t, 
 
 /«/?. Why my Lord, are the Lawes grieuous which our 
 felues haue required of our Kings ? And are the Prerogatiues 
 alfo which our Kings haue relerued tothcmfelues alio grie- 
 uous ? How can fuch a people then be well pleafed ? ^^" 
 your Lordihip confeffe that the Lawes giue too much, why 
 does your Lordlhipvrge the Prerogatiue that giues more? 
 Nay I will be bold to fay it,that except the Lawes were bet- 
 ter obferued,the Prerogatiue of a rehgious Prince hath ma- 
 nifold leife perils then the Letter of the Law hath. Now my 
 Lordjfor thefecond and third, to wit,for the appointing ot 
 Treafurers, andremouing of Councellors, our Kings haue 
 . euermorelaughtthem to Icorne that hauejpreft either ot 
 thefe,and after the Parliament diflfoluedjtooke the money ot 
 the Treafurers of the Parliament, and recalled and reftored 
 the Officers difcharged , or elfe they haue beene contented, 
 that fome fuch perfons lliould be rembued at the requeft ot 
 the whole Kingdome, which tliey themfelues out of their 
 Noble natures, would notfeeme willing to remoue. ^- . i 
 (^of^m: Well Sir, Would you notwithftanding all thefe 
 areuihents aduife his Maieftie to call a Parliament ? 
 
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 IhJ}. It belong? to your Lord (liips who enioy the Kings 
 
 faiiour,and are chofcn for your able vvilVdomc to aduif: the K. 
 Jc were a/icar.gj bjldnefle i.i a pooreand priuate peifoi), to 
 advifo Kings, accended wicii io vndeiftanding a Council, 
 But bchke your Lorddiips hauc conctiued ibmc other wdv, 
 how money may be goccenorherw Ic. If any trouble (hould 
 happen, your Lotd'liip knowcs, that then there were no- 
 thing fo dangerous for a King, a$ cob; without money : A 
 Paihament cannot aflemble i.i hafte^ but prefcut -dangers re- 
 quire haftyrcmedies. ItwiHbe u6 tiiTiCthcn codifcontLnt 
 the fabie(5ti by vfing any vaordinary wayes. 
 
 C(?»«c, Well Sir, a!l this notwithlianding wee dare r.ot 
 advifc the King to callaParliament, for ifit liiould fuccecde 
 ill, we that advife, fhouid fall into the Kings dlgracc. And if 
 the King bedriucn into any extrcmityi wee can fay toihe K. 
 that becaufe we found it extreamely vnpkafing to hisMaie- 
 ftic to h'^accofaParliaaicntjWc thought ic no good manners 
 to make fuch a motion. 
 
 lufi. My Lord, to the firft let me tell you, that there was 
 neuerany iuft Prince that hath taken any advantsge of the 
 fiicccffeofCouncelSjWhich haue bccne founded on reafon. 
 To fcare that, were to feare the lolf • of the bcl', more then 
 thclofle of theflecple,and were alfothe way tob;:ate all men 
 fromtheftadiesof the Kings feruice. But for iVt fccond, 
 whire you'fay you can excufe yoiir ff lues vpon the Kings 
 Qwneproteftingagainft aPailiament, the King vpon better 
 confideration may encounter that finen&ffe of yours, 
 
 r<?«»c. How 1 pray you? 
 
 lu^i Euen by declaring himfelfe to be indiffcrcnt/'by cal- 
 ling your Lord (hips together, and by deliuering vntoyau 
 that he hwreshow hislouing fubic6ls in generall are willing 
 to fupply him^ if it pleafc him to call a- Parliartient, for that 
 was the common anfwcre toaU the Sheriftcs in England, 
 when the late benevolence wjts commanded. In which re- 
 ipedl^andbecaufe you come fhort in ail y >ur proistfts, and 
 btcaufe it is a thing moft dangerous for a King to bee with- 
 out trcafure,he requires fuch ofyQir,as either miflikc, or ra- 
 ther 
 
ther feare a parliament ,to fet doWu your reafons m writing/ 
 wh»ilyotieithermiflikd,orfeai-ed it. Andfuch aswifh 
 and dcfire it, to itt downe anlwers to your obiedions: And 
 (o fhall the King preuent the calling or not calling on his 
 Maiefty ,as forne oFyour great Couneeilers haue done m ma- 
 ny other things Oiriiiking vpthcir {houIders,and faying,the 
 K. will haue it fo. • 
 
 Comtc. Well Sii, it growes late, and I will bid you tare- 
 weIl,onely you fliall take well with you this aduice ofmmej 
 that 'in alkhat you haue faid againft cur greateft,thofemen 
 in the end lliali he vour ludges in their owne caufe, you that 
 troiX)le your Iclft with rcf-crmation, are like to be well re- 
 warded ; for hereof you may affure your felfe, that we wiU 
 neuer allow ofany inuention how profitable Ibeuer, vnlefle 
 itprocttdtjoriametoproceedefromourfelues. . 
 
 J/^/?. Iftlicn my Lord, we may preliime to fay that Prin- 
 ces may be vnhappy in anything^certainly they are vnhappy 
 in nothing more then in fuffering themielues to be -fo inclc- 
 led.Ag?.me,if we may beleeue *P%,who tels vs,that'tisan 
 ill fgnt c f-profperity in any kingdome or ftate, where fuch 
 as dkerue weil,find no other recompence then the content- 
 ment of their owne confciences, afarre worfe ligne is it 
 whnethc juftly accufedihalltakereuengeofthe juftaccu- 
 fer . But my good Lord, there is this hope remaining, that 
 feeing he hath been abufed by them he trufied moft,he will 
 . not for the future difhonour of his iudgement(ib well infor- 
 • imd by his owne experience) as to expofeluch of his vaf- 
 fais(as haut had no other motiuts to ferue him, then (imply 
 theloueofhisperfcnandhiseftate)totheir mienge, who 
 haue onely b eene moued by the loue of their owne iortimes, 
 and their glory. . 
 
 . CouHc. But good Sir, the King hath not beene decerned; 
 
 byall. • ^ ■ • ■' -^•■ -, .^ 
 
 luB. No my Lord,neither haue all beene trufted, neither 
 
 doth the world accufe all, but beleeue, that there be among 
 
 } our Lordlhups very-iuft and wojrtfay men,afwell of the No- 
 
 bilitv as others, but thofe though m6 ft honoured in the 
 
 ■ ,•' • ' Common- 
 
' ; ■ (%) 
 
 Common-wealthyyethaue they not beene moft imployed ;> 
 Your Lordiliip knows it well enough jthat thi ee or foui e of 
 your Lordfliipshauethouglit your hands ftrong enough to 
 beare vp aloue the weightieft affaires in the Common- 
 wealth^d ftrong enough, all the Land haue found them to 
 beate downe whom they pleafed . 
 
 Coune, I vnderftand you, but how iliall it appeare that 
 they hauc onely Ibught themfekies. 
 
 IhB. There needs no perfpediueglaffe to difceme it, for 
 neither in the treaties of Peace and Warre, in matters of 
 Reucnue,and matters of Trade,any thing hath hapned either 
 of loue or of iudgcment. No my Lord, there is not any one 
 adion of theirs eminent, great or fmall, thegreatneifeof 
 rhemfelues onely exx:epted. 
 
 . ^omc. It is all one, your Papers can neither anfwer nor 
 reply , we can. Befides you tell the King no newes in deliuer- 
 ingthefe ComplaintSj for he knowes as much as can be told 
 him. 
 
 lu.fi. Forthefirftmylord, whereas he hath once the 
 realbns of things deliuered him, your Lordiliips jliall need 
 to be wcU aduiled, in their anfwcrs there is ho Ibphiftry 
 will feruethe turne,.where the ludge, and the vnderitanding. 
 are both fupreme. For the fecond, to fay thit his Maieftie 
 knowes,and cares not,that my Lord were but to defpaire all 
 hisfaithfiiUSubieds. Butbyyotu* fauour my Lord, wee fee 
 it is contrarie, we find now that there is no fuchiingalai' 
 power as there hath beene, luftice is defaibcd with a Bal- 
 ance in her Handjholdmg it euen, and it hangs as euen now 
 as euer it did in any Kings dayes, for fingular authoritic be- 
 gets but generall oppreffion . 
 
 Counc. Howfoeuer it be,that*s nothing to you, that haue 
 no intereft in the Kings fauor,nor perchance in his opinion, 
 and concerning fuch a one, the miflikmg, or but mifconcei- 
 uing of any one hard word,phrafe, or fentence,vvill giue ar- 
 gument to the King either to condcmne or reied the whole 
 difcourfe.And howfoeuer his Maieftie may negled your in- 
 formations,you may be Hire that others(at whom you point 
 
 will 
 
uill not neg!e(?l thctr rcucnges,you will therefore confcfle it 
 (when it is too late)that you are exceeding forythat you hauc 
 not foilowed my aduice.Remcmber Cardinall iVvolfij, who 
 loft al men for the Kings leruice,&v\' hen their malice(vvhom 
 he gricLicd) had out-liued the Kings affedion, you know 
 what became of him as well as I . 
 
 Infl. Yea my Lord,I know it well,that malice hath alon- 
 ger lifr,than either loue or thankfulnefle hath^ for as we al- 
 waies take more care to put cflf paine, than to enjoy plea- 
 fure,becaufe the one hath no intermifsion, & with the other 
 we arc often (ms^c^ry f b it is in the fmart of injury and the 
 memory of good turnes : Wrongs are roritun in marble : 
 Benefits are (^fometimes) ackncrtoleageA, rarely requited. But 
 my Lord, we (hall doe the K. great wrong, to judge him by 
 common rules,or ordinary exaraples/or leeing his Majefty 
 hath greatly enriched and aduanced thofe that haue but pre- 
 tended his leruice, no man needs to doubt of his goodneffe 
 towards thofe that fhal performe any thijig worthy reward. 
 Nay,the not taking knowledge of thole of his ownevalTals 
 that haue done him wrong, is more to be lamented, than the 
 relinquifhing oftho^ that doe him right, is to be fufpeded. 
 I am therfore,my good Lo:heId to my lefolution by thefe 2, 
 befides the former. The i ,that God would neuer haue bleft 
 him with (b many yeeres,& in fo many aflions,yea in all his 
 a(!ilions,had he paid his honeft feruants with euill for good . 
 The 2<i , where your Lordfhip tels me, that I will be for- 
 ry for not following your aduice, I pray your Lordlhip to 
 beleeue,that I am no way fubied to the conimojn forrovving 
 of worldly men.this Maxime o^ 'Plate being true, Dolores 
 omnes ex amore animi erga corpHs naJcantm-.But for my body, 
 my mind values it at nothing. 
 
 ^ounf. W hat is it then you hope for or feeke ? 
 
 I«/?. Neither riches, nor honour,or rhankes, but I onely 
 feeke to fatisfie his Majefty (wbich'I would haue bin glad 
 to haue done in matters of moreimportance)that I haue liH*d 
 md "mil die^n honeFi man. 
 
 FINIS. 
 
The Authours Epitaph, made 
 
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 C ^enfuch is Timeywhich takes in trufl 
 OHrXmth^Mctlofs^ 4»d all we haue^ 
 jiff d/f ayes vs IfHt yvith age and dully 
 Wfiih/i» the dark^ andfilentgrane^ 
 Whtn ape ha/te wandred all 9tir wa^eSy 1 
 Shuts vp the fiorycfottr daps I 
 And from y^hich Earthyand Graue^and Dufi^ 
 The Lffrdjball ralfi me vf I trufi. 
 
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